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Palestinian UN Ambassador At UN

bcglorf says...

"Who the fuck cares what the reason they wanted to invadeflee was?"

Characterization matters a little here, no?

"They had a right to refugee status there, not to take control and possession by force"

Which is at the heart of things.

The Arab narrative is that Jews arrived guns loaded and set about pillaging, killing and invading as soon as they had sufficient numbers, while the poor domestic Arab population had only been trying to assist and welcome in the refugees...

Which is ahistorical propaganda.

The reality is that for the most part, the European Jews arriving in Palestine were refugees and acting like refugees. Meaning they mostly just wanted to be able to provide food, shelter and safety for the families, just like everyone else. Most of them tried to set about doing this by legally purchasing land.

Lots of the local Arabs similarly were content to get along.

At that same time though, there were hardcore Zionists among the Jewish arrivals AND there were xenophobic elements willing to use violence within the Arab population too.

The tensions rose as the populations rose, but largely as a result of a large people being displaced, and NOT as the planned invasion you describe. The local Arab population started to band together to refuse to work, trade or sell to Jews. Violence broke out instigated separately on smallish scales by BOTH sides. Escalating violence followed, again back and forth between sides.

I'm in a camp that has a hard time blaming either the domestic Arab population for distress at the huge influx of refugees, nor for the European Jewish people having a low tolerance for discrimination and violence directed there way solely for being Jewish.

I see it as a huge mess, but with two large populations of Jewish and Arab people in Palestine acting not terribly unreasonably under circumstances of extreme pressure.

I think it's lazy and convenient to just declare 'invasion' so that you can simplify it all down to right/wrong and good guy/bad guy....

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newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

Your just a TOOL of the left. A propagandist

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-raided-daughters-college-fund-20000-buy-hookers-and-drugs
Hunter Biden Raided Daughter's College Fund For $20,000 To Buy Hookers And Drugs: Report.

On Dec. 17, 2018, Hunter's money managers warned of his extremely low balance, according to records obtained by the Daily Mail. That's exactly when, according to Hunter's Memoir, he was in his "penultimate odyssey through full blown addiction," when he was dropping thousands of dollars on prostitutes and crack cocaine.

In response to the warning, Hunter ordered the bankers to transfer $20,000 from his daughter Maisy's educational savings account, early withdrawal consequences be damned.

"liquidate what you can' and 'Live [love] you both," Hunter wrote

newtboy said:

😂
Cons are child raping abusers that are led by a rapist that lusts after his daughter, or at least publicly did when she was an underage teenager.
😂

226 Kennesaw Mayor, former councilman Leonard Church (all households required to own a gun) child molestation

227 GOP WA state Sen Joe Fain - accused of rape, accuser inspired by Christine Blasey Ford

228 Federal judge Brett Kavanaugh and Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has been credibly accused of sexual assault

229 George H.W. Bush - several groping allegations (though my sister worked in nursing homes & said they used to note DOM (Dirty Old Man) on charts because it was so common for aged men to lose their social control

230 AL GOP Gov. Robert Bentley - sexual harassment

231 Pensacola’s GOP Sheriff Al Harrison convicted of forcing women prisoners to have sex with him.

232 SC celebrity politician Thomas Ravenal, former Republican State Treasurer, sexual assault, assault and battery

233 Colorado Republican House minority leader Mike May’s company sued for sexual discrimination/harassment

234 Republican Sheriff L. PAUL BAILEY of Berrien Co, Michigan oversaw a prison where several inmates were raped and abused.

235 Reagan appointee U.S. District Judge Walter S. Smith Jr. sexual harassment and misconduct

236 SD GOP state Rep. Mathew Wollman resigned after sleeping with interns Plural!

237 Republican NY state Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin - sexual harassment

238 NY Assemblyman Greg Ball - R - sexual harassment and assault several times in NY & TX

239 NY Assemblyman Republican Angela Wozniak sexual harassment, retaliation after staff member breaks off affair

240 Former state representative and gubernatorial candidate Steve Nunn ignored the restraining order had against him for domestic violence and murdered her.

241 GOP Kent County Commissioner Gary Rolls gets ONE YEAR for raping a young woman since she was 9 until she was 23.

242 Will Folks, spokesperson for Republican Gov. Mark Sanford (Appalachian Trail) convicted for domestic violence.

243 MN GOP state house candidate Brad Gerten - domestic assault

244 GOP Congressional candidate David "Bull" Gurfein domestic violence

245 University of Massachusetts Republican Club vice president -Bradley S. DeFlumeri domestic violence, violating restraining orders. https://dailycollegian.com/2009/04/republican-club-vice-president-arrested-banned-from-offices/

246 Carl’s, Jr CEO and big Trump supporter Andrew Puzder lost the opportunity to be Labor Secretary because of domestic violence history, but Trump still wants him in the administraiton

247 Albuquerque Republican Rep. Rory Ogle - domestic violence and assault withdrew from reelection campaign

248 William "Wild Bill" Janklowm Republican governor of SD - two rapes, one as a minor, the other, he took advantage of reservation inability to prosecute whites who commit crimes on reservation.

249 Republican Congressman Dan Burton - sexual harassment and groping

250 Dick Armey, GOP Congressman from Texas - sexual harassment, inappropriate conduct with college students

FPV drone following mountain bike downhill run.

newtboy says...

He needs way more speed….he nearly cased it on the first tabletop.
*related=https://videosift.com/video/Worlds-Best-FPV-Drone-Shot-Extreme-Mountain-Biking

FPV drone following mountain bike downhill run.

FBI - 60% of Mass Shooting Stopped by Good Guy with a Gun.

newtboy says...

Already listed as lies and debunked….bob is learning!

Note bob, this guy’s videos have a disclaimer that he is entertainment, not news or information, “This is an entertainment show for entertainment purposes ONLY.”

His source is one guy, Paul Bedard, an opinion columnist for the Washington Examiner…the extreme right rarely factual rag. He wonders why the media hasn’t reported it…because there’s zero evidence behind the claim.
The fbi site
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2022-042623.pdf
shows 50 “active shooter incidents” in 2022, only 2 stopped by civilians with guns. That’s 4% bob, not 60%.

You are so gullible Bobby. Never even considering looking into something you hear as long as you like how it sounds.

More ridiculous lies by our favorite ridiculous liar.

Let's talk about Trump, Georgia, $200,000, and bail....

newtboy jokingly says...

Projection will get you no where….and I’m not the Lord.

Trump IT tech and “employee #4” Yuscil Taveras changing his lawyer then immediately taking a plea deal and changing his testimony from “ ” To “Trump the boss told me to erase the server” was extremely strong evidence that what I say is true, then GOP chair David Shafer taking a deal to testify against Trump that he personally directed the entire Georgia fake elector and vote tampering scheme reported minutes after my comment pretty much proved my theory that there’s lots more co-conspirators ready to turn on him, some with hard evidence to prove their now truthful testimony. 😂

But you just keep believing lil Kim Jon Un….I mean lil Donny. Not like he’s ever lied to you. 😂

bobknight33 said:

Lord you are a gullible one.

Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond

newtboy says...

Derp….because they created them. Most I found are professional “conservative blacks” (like Diamond and Silk) hyping the video with fake “reaction videos”. You can find plenty of videos of the same people trashing BLM and defending conservatives and Jan 6….some are people who put out (seemingly nothing but) positive reaction videos.

This is being astroturfed to the extreme, much like “Sound of Freedom” was (it was playing to sold out theaters with absolutely no one watching it)… promoted by conservative influencers and politicians, overhyped to the extreme. It’s what the right does, you create this fake popularism then point to it and say nonsense like “Americans and 100% behind this song” to make yourself feel less alone in your views. How’s that been working for you?

Try to find negative reaction videos to any song, it’s hard no matter how bad the song is, positive reaction videos get views, negative reaction videos get discarded. I looked through all the videos made by those you posted, not one song any of them disliked. I’ve actually never seen a reaction video where the listener didn’t LOVE the song they’re pretending to hear for the first time, and I’ve seen plenty.


Best reaction yet….
“Boss gets a dollar
While I get a dime
Please cut his taxes
And deregulate mines”. Says it all for me.

I’ve not heard a thing about this on media before you posted it, I had to look it up myself…as usual. I don’t get my information from “the media”, I get it from researching multiple conflicting sources, and using my brain.

Really, you think Americans are 100% behind ANYTHING?!? Just more proof how delusional you are. You think Americans are 100% behind Trump too. 😂

Elites. Lol. No, son. Lots of people, including many conservatives dislike the message of this song, they are replying “if you don’t get paid enough, get a better job, there’s plenty of opportunity…stop drinking and whining.”.
Liberals dislike the fat shaming and tax blaming while letting the 1% off the hook for screwing the workers hard and deep.

1%ers….you have no clue what you say, do you? Let’s see…who are the 1%ers bob? Am I one? Are 45% of the country 1%ers? 😂

As a stand alone song, it’s nothing special, not great not terrible, probably would have gotten 5-10000 views in a year and never gone anywhere…but as the new conservative anthem hyped by all conservatives ad nauseam, it’s gawd awful.

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy
Since this song is, as you imply, racist, why are the black reaction videos all liking this song?



You being feed lies and BS from the media you watch. Americans and 100% behind this song.

Only the left elites are against it. You know the 1%ers

Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond

newtboy says...

Why are so many here upvoting this anti governmental America hating regressive racist extreme Christian right MAGA anthem the anti government America hating extreme Christian MAGA right has latched onto?

Do you not know what he’s saying?
Do you not understand “people like me and people like you” refers to white Christian nationalist people?
Do you not understand what’s meant by “with an old soul” (it means they want to regress to pre-civil rights era Jim crow)?
Do you not understand the “rich men north of Richmond” he speaks about are just the Democratic “tax and spend” politicians (and maybe RINOS but not MAGA)?
Do you not notice the anti government assistance message?
Did you miss the pro incel message?
Did you miss all the fat shaming by a fat man?
Did you not notice the COMPLAINT that the government protected minors being raped on an island INSTEAD OF coal miners (who in fact have had dozens of government “welfare” programs created to get them retraining and jobs in industries that are less deadly, pollute less, and pay over minimum wage as well as instituted hundreds of governmental safety regulations that have cut miner deaths exponentially).

Did no one listen to the message of the song?
Did no one else notice the completely homogenous angry white middle age crowd?

WTF people!?

Lyrics-
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay

Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond

newtboy says...

What a diverse crowd of middle age white fat Christian people he attracts.
I bet they think taxes should pay for their church events, not feeding the poor.
Look close, I see nothing else in that crowd but dumb overweight drunken white people. This is what you want America to be, it makes you so happy seeing all those beaming angry white faces together without any disgusting minorities dirtying it up, doesn’t it?

No surprise a racist drunk singing about how (too far left) Jebus is good and government/taxes are bad picked up by the extreme right at the top (who themselves are all rich men north of Richmond) and fed to you as an anthem gets lots of views. It doesn’t make it good music or a decent message, it’s just more MAGA whining that everything doesn’t go your way….waaah! A good whine attracts MAGA like moths to a flame by the millions.

BTW- BTS got 108 MILLION views in 24 hours since you think 27m views in 11 days is outstanding….for a right wing “artist” it is, for normal pop singers, it’s a fail.

WAAAAAH! 😂

bobknight33 said:

His vid has 27 M views in 11 days - outstanding

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Oof…you a Steven Crowder fan? He sure imploded didn’t he?

Not a good look as an anti gay anti “groomer” hateful extreme right personality to require your employees to sign something that says they must touch his balls and he may touch theirs…including a $100000 NDA penalty if they talk about it.
4 employees walked, then talked.
He then hired a replacement, Spadone, who was fired from his last job at project veritas for groping coworkers. 😂

We love watching the MAGA hate fail. It’s always entertaining.

More grooming, more sexual harassment, more hiring known sex abusers. What else is MAGA today besides a gang of whining fascist rapists most under indictment for sedition, espionage, business frauds, or vote fraud (or all 4)? I don’t see anything else. 😂

Beau with an interesting take on the Mitch thing

newtboy says...

Trying to say Mitch is some bulwark against MAGA insanity!?…I think he hasn’t been paying attention for the last 15 years.
Mitch was the one who stole Obama’s Supreme Court appointment and ended RvW.
Mitch was a vote for MAGA, a total Trump supporter.
Mitch voted against impeachment for Jan 6 despite stating Trump WAS responsible. Wasn’t he the one who said to just wait 12 days until he’s out of office and we’ll impeach him for certain, then said he’s already out of office so you can’t impeach him now?
He might SOUND a tiny bit more sane (when he’s capable of speaking), but his votes are as extreme as anyone, and his leadership has led the Republican Party into the insane asylum.
I don’t know why he just assumes any replacement would be more extreme with the same or greater ability to achieve their extremist agenda…it’s more likely they’ll elect another Boebert who’s bombastic but unqualified and ineffectual.

Cocaine Found In West Wing

moonsammy says...

I'm not going to trust some random site you linked that I've never heard of before, so I researched the issue myself. From what I can tell, Hunter was there on Tuesday for July 4th celebrations, and the Secret Service had found cocaine in a heavily-trafficked area of the West Wing on Sunday the 2nd. The president was out of town late Friday until Tuesday. So cocaine was found two days before Joe and Hunter were on site, in a part of the building which regularly hosts tour groups (particularly on weekends), and through which staff frequently transits. I doubt Hunter can time-travel (or has time-traveling cocaine), and if he does then you and I are waaaaay out of our league here - this is superhero business. If I've the basic facts incorrect please do let me know, I didn't spend more than 10 minutes reading up on this.

But, for the sake of argument: let's say the current president's adult son visited during a publicized, well-attended event, and accidentally left some illegal narcotics in a restroom. What would that actually imply, as a worst-case scenario, about Joe Biden? So far as I can tell, it shows he's willing to continue having a relationship with his adult child in spite of that child's known (and perhaps continued) character / behavior flaws. The teachings of Jesus make it clear that we should treat those around us with love, even the very flawed. None of what the news is describing, even as a worst-case, feels like a problem in any way - there are no implications pertaining to public policy, foreign policy, or nepotism. Perhaps there should be legal consequences for Hunter (or whoever left the cocaine there), but it hardly reflects on Joe.

You only heard about this cocaine because it plays into an existing, nonsensical narrative currently being pushed by right-wing media bullshitters. Namely, Joe's son Hunter has had drug problems, and some weird business entanglements, and that all somehow implies Joe is dirty. I'm extremely concerned about official corruption, so I absolutely would want to know if any were occurring - but the evidence pertaining to Hunter/Joe having any shady backroom dealings together is extremely thin on the ground.

Bob, have you given anywhere near this level of scrutiny or mental time to the question of why Donald's son-in-law received $2,000,000,000 from the Saudis? I feel that's actually worth knowing, particularly given that Jared very clearly DID have the former President's ear on policy matters, and WAS regularly present in the White House outside of big public events. But I've a hunch you care less about getting to the bottom of that obvious massive corruption, than the identity of the scoundrel who sullied the immaculate Administrative Palace with (I'm guessing) petty misdemeanor quantities of magic nose dust.

bobknight33 said:

Secret Service Confirms Cocaine Was Found In West Wing Phone Cubby Hours After Hunter Biden Visit.


Go hide from reality, as you normally do.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

ROTFLMFAHS!!!
Only according to lying douchebags with an axe to grind and absolutely no evidence whatsoever.
On “valutainment”, not a news source but an internet entertainment business (from someone’s basement) that’s far right leaning and well known for lying to support Trump or impugn Biden.
And Alex Jones!!! The guy who repeatedly admitted he’s a character he plays on tv to separate fools from their money, who in court said he doesn’t believe any of the nonsense he spews!!?! The blathering nutjob screaming about gay frogs sued into the poorhouse for lying about murdered children?!? You really need to learn to vet sources. 😂 holy shit you fucking idiot! “I like what they’re saying.” is not verification, Gary. “He hates who I hate!” does not indicate honest reporting. When they agree with YOUR preconceptions, it’s 99.9996% likely they’re lying to you, because you’re an ignorant nutjob that believes the most insane nonsense imaginable and denies verified facts constantly and who only gets their misinformation from the most dishonest biased sources available.

How many of these baseless accusations are you going to believe before the fact that every single one falls apart when proof is required sinks in. How many fake paid whistleblowers must evaporate into thin air before you stop thinking they’re real? More proof of your severe learning deficiency that no one could possibly graduate college with.

But with Trump…there IS evidence, mountains of evidence and actual charges in real courtrooms with convictions galore, not just flapping liars gums but paper trails, boxes of classified documents, depositions under oath from his coconspirators, recordings of him bragging about felonies, $2 billion in his kids accounts paid for highly classified top secret information sold to the Saudis, and multiple convictions for moral turpitude already, proving he’s the most corrupt, anti American, anti democratic douche bag rapist and incestious child abuser ever to hold office. Convicted of multiple business frauds, tax evasion, charity fraud, sex abuse, wire fraud, bank fraud, etc, and accused of more of the same plus stealing and selling/sharing top secret classified information, fomenting a coup, and election fraud to the extreme….but sure, some Trumpists say Biden wasn’t hands off on Hunter’s case,so lock him up and forget Trump’s crimes, in fact just replace Biden with Trump and call it a day. Such idiotic ignorant nonsense bob. You just love to be duped by liars, and love to hide from your stupidity when the lies are invariably exposed.
Sucker. 😂



BTWx you really need to put this on a loop for a month… https://videosift.com/video/The-Difference-Between-Youre-vs-Your-Rap

bobknight33 said:

Biden is a corrupt douchebag.
Derp

IRS Whistleblower Confirms DOJ HIJACKED Hunter Investigation

newtboy says...

TLDW; but prove it. Flapping gums mean nothing, especially from RWNJs.

Robert Gouveia Esq. 😂 you’ve got to be kidding with these random extreme righty basement reporters that always have the big scoop the media won’t talk about, and are never right. 🤦‍♂️

Everyone involved disputes his biased claims, including the many Trump appointees.

Prove he isn’t another paid political actor like every fake “whistleblower” the right has produced so far (most couldn’t be produced because, like evidence, they never existed (like the phantom tapes), are (dead?) Russian spies, or are in prison for treason).

Prove with undoctored internal communication this interference existed, not uncorroborated hearsay. Republicans are clear, they have no obligation to tell the truth and won’t. They said exactly that clearly and unambiguously.

Then if the right can do all that, prove it was worse than how Trump abused his power to have the DOJ go after political enemies for no crimes which the right applauded and protect himself and his family from prosecutions and lawsuits like his personal law firm.

More fake news bobby. Cry me a River. He could pardon Hunter by thinking it, but no, you think there’s some convoluted conspiracy to get Hunter to plead guilty to the same crimes Trump says are not crimes, everybody does it, no crime, perfect bookkeeping, perfect when he was caught not paying his taxes for decades.

Can’t wait for the investigations into Jared and Ivanka. There’s actually a “there” there.

How many fake whistleblowers must fall apart before you stop believing them? Sucker.



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