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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Trump is sueing his partners/cofounders at truth social attempting to steal their stock. Is anyone surprised? Trump screws over everyone who gets in bed with him, badly, usually by not paying them or bankrupting the venture.
(Edit: the judge who presided over the merger is “gobsmacked” that he lied about having any claims so he could judge shop his lawsuit and has said he’s considering sanctions.)

It’s exactly what he’s doing to the Republican Party. Fundraising is flat across the board since he installed his family into leadership rolls so they could rob it blind.

Major donors don’t want to fund don’s legal bills (isn’t he a billionaire? Why can’t he pay for his own lawyers?) but they can’t donate to the RNC without at least half going directly to Habba, and the rest going to pay don’s family exorbitant salaries for tanking the party…it’s still paying millions a year for Melania who hasn’t been seen this year! Not a single election rally scheduled. The RNC isn’t paying for down ballot campaigns. They have no ground game (armies of volunteers who canvas) in swing states and no money to organize any. The ONLY thing the RNC has is election workers willing to break the law and falsify the vote for Don, again, and maggots willing to vote multiple times, again.

Don’s support with millennials has dropped below 35% and is still shrinking fast. They really don’t like losing abortion rights, or birth control, and have heard the leadership saying the goal is to end “recreational sex” in America.
He’s still polling below 15% with the black community and never received over 12%. Biden lost a few percent, but they did not switch to Trump.
Women are outraged at the attempts to reverse the sexual revolution and get them barefoot and pregnant back in the kitchen with no rights and no voice and are voting against Republicans in droves even in deep red states.
There is no group he’s gaining with and many he’s losing, expect even evangelical support to evaporate as his porn star payoff/business fraud case is in the news all next month, sordid details and all.

It’s just hilarious that you still think someone with all that baggage, who is a well known rapist, business failure, convicted fraud, charity thief, repeatedly bankrupt trust fund baby, narcissist, constant liar, racist, misogynist, gullible idiot, and who clearly has full blown dementia is the best the right has to offer. 😂

Turns out China has been setting up thousands of MAGA social media accounts and are 100% in the Trump camp, posting ridiculous conspiracy theories about Biden (that get picked up by righty media) and pro trump propaganda (also repeated by righty media). Normal people see our enemies like Russia and China backing the same candidate (who utterly failed to stand up to either when he was in power) and understand that candidate is on our enemies side, not America’s.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/business/media/china-online-disinformation-us-election.html#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20Chinese%20accounts,Satanist%2
0pedophile%20while%20promoting%20Mr.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Unlike Trump, I do not claim to be Jesus. 🤨

He’s got to sell something or his campaign won’t have money to pay his legal bills.
Joe Burden is going to crush him…again. He won’t even need to disinformate or misinformate, just let Don talk. 😂

Edit: The most insane part, and this is real, they put out a statement telling the buyers to not worry that the pages are sticking together. Anyone who buys a book from Trump and finds the pages sticking together should absolutely worry, wash your hands with bleach and ammonia (yes, I know) and get their fingers tested for pregnancy and syphilis. He’s a sick little monkey and probably did jiz on those bibles.

Holy (pun intended) crap! Turns out these are old, unsold/ unsellable “Merica” bibles produced in 2021 that weren’t selling for $49.95 and had terrible reviews about quality, months to ship after payment, and zero customer service. I don’t expect improvement for the extra $10. I bet they’re made in China.

BSR said:

Jesus Christ! Now he's selling Bibles?!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Lev Parmas, Giuliani’s buddy and source for anti Biden/Ukraine propaganda is testifying to congress in the Biden investigation right now.

He is testifying that the allegations he and Giuliani and Don made up about Hunter in Ukraine are not only false, they are part of a Russian counter intelligence produced disinformation campaign he was a part of.



He admits his “evidence” he found for Giuliani was anonymous letters generated in Russia and delivered in Ukraine he would forward to Giuliani and within hours would be all over Fox and OAN and the rest as “more proof of Biden corruption from credible sources”, but he knew there was no such evidence or even any credible accusations. He also now admits he was in a cult, forced to only accept information from a tiny circle and going outside that circle for information gets you thrown out of the circle. He admits he had to be arrested and prosecuted to hit the wall and realize what he had been doing himself, brainwashing himself by intentionally blinding himself to facts and only seeing what Don told him to see. Perhaps that’s what you need to wake up.

Here’s a bit about the MAGA NAZI (one of Don’s “good people”) just ousted from office in Enid Oklahoma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU2QnI-Aorw
Don’t you think it’s odd that every single racist group from neo-Nazis to the KKK to white nationalist groups everywhere all exclusively associate politically with MAGA, but you still claim to not be racist? Never mind…that would require thought.

More evidence of MAGA selling out the country to our enemies for a crumb of a fake political attack against a private citizen while their official representatives sell state secrets and the identities of foreign agents and sell official policy (when Don knowingly in his words “saved his ass” when bin Salaman brutally murdered and dismembered an American journalist and diaper Don covered it up) and sold top tier weaponry to Saudi Arabia for $2 billion in personal payouts and they turn a blind eye.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Uh-oh….Jordan and Comer and Grassley and other MAGA traitors are facing conspiracy charges for knowingly using Russian disinformation as the basis for their impeachment fraud, suborning perjury, and maybe acting as unregistered foreign agents.
They wasted tens of millions and paralyzed congress over nonsense they knew was disinformation from the start, which has been corroborated by other Republicans who were there in the room when they were told years ago that he was a Russian agent spreading Russian disinformation designed to hurt America by sewing division and distrust in the government.

It’s blatantly obvious it’s a fraudulent revenge impeachment campaign to retaliate for two proper impeachments of Trump that complicit Senators protected him from despite his undeniable guilt. Obvious to all, even MAGA.

The thing here is if they continue this sham now that their primary and only source has been indicted for lying in this case and being an unregistered Russian agent there’s no more pretending he might be “highly credible”, they will knowingly and publicly be conspiring directly with Russia in a publicly known scheme to weaken America for the benefit of our enemy, not just giving more aid and comfort but actually attacking America in their name, and will be found guilty of treason…so what’s it gonna be, fellas?

Trump brought back firing squads, right? Seems like three candidates stepped forward.

MAGA Witness Admits He Is A Russian Intelligence Agent

newtboy says...

It means everything said about Hunter and Joe in the last 4 years is based on what was known to be Russian propaganda and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE. THERE IS NO DIRT ON HIM, NO SMOKING GUN, NO EVIDENCE AT ALL, ONLY ACCUSATIONS BY ACCUSERS WHO HAVE ADMITTED ITS ALL REALLY BEEN DISINFORMATION FROM RUSSIA…but they are still looking because they have nothing at all to point to that they have done in the last 2 years besides accusing Hunter (based on what they knew was just Russian propaganda).

bobknight33 said:

This mean dick

Hunter still has dirt on him--- no smoking gun but they are looking

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Elon reversed his free speech stand on Twitter, banning accounts he specifically said were safe, and going farther, banning the people who ran the accounts (like the one tracking his plane using public information) even though they violated no rule or policy.
At the same time, he pulled all fact checking and safety screening, allowing covid disinformation and neo nazis back.

Edit: now he’s attempting to Welch on contractually obligated severance pay he offered thousands to quit their contracts. He’s not only going to be sued into the poor house, his employees are going to sabotage his companies now that it’s clear he’s going to screw them even worse than he already has, will cheat them out of pay, severance, and other contractual obligations. He’s actually so dumb and self centered he thinks just not paying bills is a cost savings method, not criminal theft. That’s what the right does, welch on obligations. It’s going to be sweet when his landlords reposses Twitter, and his ex employees take Tesla as compensation for contract violations.
Tesla is failing now that Elon showed his hand as a petulant child, not a stable genius, not an engineer.

He’s so screwed, he/Twitter has reportedly stopped paying rent on Twitter global offices worldwide among other bills.

He’s really turned out to be a moron. He’s no longer the world’s richest person, but is the biggest loser in history now. Tesla down over 60% ytd and in freefall, and favorability among democrats has dropped from well over 30% to below 10%. Not great to alienate your customer base before becoming profitable as competition ramps up.

Failed Assassination Of Pelosi/Husband Attacked In Home

newtboy says...

https://gizmodo.com/conspiracy-theories-paul-nancy-pelosi-hammers-underwear-1849720475

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/31/conservatives-disinformation-paul-pelosi-assault-00064208

Tool.
Fool.
Sucker.
All your idiotic blatantly false talking points have already been not only debunked, but traced to their origins where they have been retracted. What was that you were saying about links that disappeared? Every accusation you make is an admission.
Try to find the origin of anything you said, because every detail I presented is still there with citations including exactly which officer released the official information.
Moron.
Gullibility incarnate.

Jesus, you really are the worst human being I’ve ever had the displeasure to talk with. Never an honest word or position from you, never an answer, only baseless misleading questions and pure lies every time. Shotgunning nonsense at the universe just to see if any will stick. You’re a real worthless waste of skin.

Trump just admitted Barron was really Ivanka’s love child he sired in an orgy with Epstein. It was twins, and he keeps the twin girl caged for sex on demand in his room at Maralago. Melania confirmed it’s true, and also confirmed that Trump paid her to keep quiet but is broke now so she’s talking. What about that news, bob? Why do you so love a public incest loving atheist pedophile unless you are one?

And some added MAGA culpability for you- On Sunday, Republican House member Tom Emmer of Minnesota faced questioning during an appearance on 'Face the Nation' about a tweet featuring him firing a gun and a hashtag on firing Pelosi he sent out days before House Speaker Pelosi's husband was attacked in their home.

bobknight33 said:

Derp-I’m a duped moron that believes obvious false propaganda I read on Twitter, not facts with evidence given by police spokesmen, then I accuse others of doing what I did.

Brainwashed

moonsammy says...

Oops this turned into a semi rant. But I am legitimately open to discussion here, and am curious to get your thoughts on a few points Bob. That is, IF you're willing to actually think about them beyond the level of repeating talking points.

I find it interesting how divergent the two overall "sides" are in this country, in terms of where they focus. None of the issues brought up in this video are really on the radar of most progressives, beyond being aware some on the right are talking about them. And I'm guessing a lot of the concerns progressives discuss rarely come up in your chosen media landscape. A lot of the issues in the video are largely off of my radar, and I have to wonder how you feel they should be addressed - like, actual proposed solutions rather than just complaining about / worrying about them.

We only dedicate one day to remember our fallen soldiers

How many should there be? Arguably we have more than one already: there's Memorial Day and Veterans Day, and it seems that Sept 11th is often used for the purpose as well.

I'd argue we should spend more time acknowledging and understanding the principals behind WHY our soldiers died in the various conflicts which caused them to fall in the first place. Let's make sure our citizenry appreciates what we collectively rejected in the Revolutionary war. Why it was important that we kept the country together rather than allowing the south to split off in the mid-1800s. Why we chose to honor our diplomatic agreements and support our allies in WW1. Why we fought against the countries and governments we did in WW2. What our goals were in Korea and Vietnam, and what lessons we learned from those conflicts and from the Cold War in general. Commemorating and remembering those we've lost absolutely matters, but if we're ONLY doing that while forgetting why they fought OR ignoring what we learned then we're doing them an equal or greater disservice. Remember that America was built on the idea of forming "a more perfect union" - not a perfect one, a MORE perfect one - a work in progress. We're striving towards an ideal, not assuming we're already there. Learning from our past successes, failures, and our struggles around both outcomes is vital. If our self-analysis is no deeper than hero worship we'll never make real progress towards that theoretical perfect union.


The only mask that's gonna save us is duct tape on their mouths

Yeah, sound medical advice and evidence-based science is terrifying. Better to shut up those whose words we dislike, because we're reactionary authoritarian babymen. I truly do not understand being more afraid of reasonable safety measures than of a virus which has been shown to cause serious harm in the short and long terms. The only reason this "masks = liberal / maskless = conservative" crap came about is because politics has devolved to the level of team sports in the US, and one party has chosen "the opposite of whatever our political opponents say" as their entire governing philosophy. (And yes, ONE party - research and understand the GOP's 2020 platform if you want to argue the point.) This video even seems to reach a reasonable conclusion at the end, while coming up just short of that final logical leap to "maybe I should question what the public faces of MY side have been claiming in this Us vs Them madness." Seriously - keep going friend, you're almost there! George Washington was 100% right in wanting to avoid political parties being a force in the US, and it makes me immensely sad that his fears came true.


Big oil runs the world / the only wars to get fought are with the countries who have natural resources they want

Solid point here, no sarcasm. The US military has long been a tool of our profit-driven form of "free market" imperialism. A really great way to combat this, specifically with an eye to ending Big Oil's goddamn death grip on our foreign policy goals, would be an aggressive implementation of renewable energy projects. Remember the space race? America can be an absolute beast at clever engineering solutions when we dedicate ourselves to it. Fuck the petrostates, we have the available land and resources to absolutely kick ass in the realms of solar and wind power, and be leaders in the the post-hydrocarbon reality. We can certainly agree on that, right Bob? Left / Right nonsense fully aside, I think any reasonable American can agree on at least two points: let's stop sending heaps of cash to buy oil off of the Saudis (etc), and Fuck Cancer.


But if a white man acts too white he's white trash / he's a racist he's a bigot he's a monster

What the fuck is this horseshit? What does "acting too white" even fucking look like? Watching NASCAR on a sailboat while listening to polka? Typically when I see racism from white people it's in the form of denying that brown-hued people deal with any additional difficulties in life due to their skin tone, or denying that there have been structural obstacles for them through history, or lamenting that their white children are being burdened with a broader lens on culture or with (gasp! shock!) an accurate accounting of actual US history, including the ugly bits that we shouldn't be proud of (but MUST learn from). I'm progressive / lefty as fuck and there is no aspect of "white culture" or "acting white" which upsets me in the slightest. UNLESS one counts "denying racism exists / has ever existed" as a fundamental value of being white. Which... why would anyone want to claim that nonsense? If you want to listen to classic country music in a rusty pickup truck while driving to an evangelical church, then discuss hockey over Buds after 18 holes with the rest of your tractor pull team, then absolutely go nuts my fellow caucusoid! Just recognize and understand that your life experiences may not be the same as those of others. Further, if we care about trying to avoid unnecessary, avoidable unfairness in life (recognizing that life will never truly be fair, for anyone), then it might be reasonable for some governmental / legal / structural recognition in furtherance of that notion. There is absolutely room for legitimate policy disagreement here without being accused of racism. It's denial of others' reality which tends to garner the label of racist (sexist etc) - steer clear of denying the lived experiences of other people, allow for the possibility they may have encountered difficulties you haven't / won't, and we've room for further discussion.

Edit / final point: I voted the video back up to 0 from the -1 where I found it. Because while I disagree with a lot of the positions taken by the performer, they may have reached them through no fault of their own and with no true malice. Misinformation / disinformation is a devious shit of a motherfucker, and the rot it causes can run deep. It is painful to abandon deeply-held beliefs, on a fundamental level. If nothing else, the video gives us room to discuss some specific viewpoints held by people who think of themselves as good, but which can lead to harm.

The Lab Hypothesis | Real Time (HBO)

newtboy says...

The issue is the wrong guy, a dishonest blowhard trying to cover his own failures, claimed this early on with absolutely zero evidence. It was a clear dodge, his normal MO. Refusing any responsibility for ending the international pandemic response team that would have been able to actually say when and where the outbreak started, and likely be able to keep it relegated to one small area in China. By blaming it on a Chinese lab, actually saying it was intentional, he deflects from his abject failure to protect America from a clear, obvious, incontrovertibly deadly threat on the horizon….or any time after it’s discovery.
Were the Chinese studying Covid, yes, so were we. That’s not an indication of where it came from. There’s no evidence it came from any lab, only supposition at best.

Edit:Even if the guess that it came from a Chinese lab is correct, it doesn’t excuse one second of Trump’s (lack of) response and outright denials for months-years. The origin has nothing to do with the danger level, in fact, if it WERE enhanced/created in a lab as he claimed, that’s more reason to consider it MORE dangerous, not reason to claim it’s just a cold or mild flu and will disappear like magic in a few weeks. Granted, it was fun to see him (only after his trade deal fell apart) blame this deadly virus on the Chinese as an unforgivable deliberate act of germ warfare and accuse them of minimizing the danger and hiding the size and severity of the outbreak and in the same breath claim it’s nothing to worry about, not dangerous, probably not deadly, not worth any action to protect against, and just a minimal annoyance soon to disappear….but also disappointing to see how easily so many Americans glossed over the two faced hypocritical responsibility shirking stance he took.

This guy claims most, nearly all viruses can’t both infect people and be transmitted….what utter nonsense. If that were true, there would have never been epidemics, pandemics, not even outbreaks. Credibility destroyed.

I guess he didn’t hear about swine flu, or bird flu, or flu, or colds, or any transmittable virus. 🤦‍♂️
I guess they haven’t heard new mutations are far less deadly (but more transmittable) than earlier versions, so they are getting less dangerous, contrary to his claim.

Not transmitting well outdoors means it’s not natural?! Bullshit, animals nest together. Many natural viruses require close contact to transmit.

DNA testing proved early on that this is not a man made virus. Is it possible a Chinese lab made a natural virus more dangerous, then a lab mistake released it? Yes, but there’s no evidence that’s the case, even these people who’s livelihood relies on people accepting “the lab hypothesis” (hypothesis=guess) admit it’s all conjecture, there’s no evidence, certainly no proof. It’s not the lab theory because it’s unproven.

Duh.

BTW, this couple are married, anti vaxers, Ivermectin proponents, and were thrown out of Evergreen College, and are now both now discredited and disgraced. Their main source of income is now their anti vax, pro Ivermectin, Covid isn’t dangerous podcasts loved by morons like Joe Rogan, and a source of much of his misinformation that’s getting him removed from his platform.
“Bret Weinstein is one of the foremost purveyors of COVID-19 disinformation out there,” says Dr. David Gorski, a surgical oncologist and professor at Wayne State University who also debunks quack remedies as managing editor at a website called Science-Based Medicine. “Weinstein can be ‘credited’ with playing a large role in popularizing the belief that ivermectin is a miracle cure or preventative for COVID-19, that the vaccines are dangerous, and that the disease itself is not. Why are Rogan and Maher attracted to his messages? Contrarians and conspiracy theorists tend to be attracted to each other.”
https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2021/09/16/bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying-go-unvaccinated-take-ivermectin/

Downvote discredited shills who profit from misinformation. No surprise at all, considering who posted this dishonest propaganda from discredited propagandists.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Remember Kirk Hartle? He’s the Republican Nevada man whose dead wife’s ballot was used to vote last year. The poster boy for voter fraud, claiming his wife’s ballot had been stolen (twice) and used to vote in Nevada elections, twice. For weeks he was trotted out as the proof of widespread liberal voter fraud, they clearly stole ballots and fraudulently used them to stuff ballot boxes.

He plead guilty to reduced charges of voting more than once in an election, sentenced today to one year probation and $2000 fine. Your poster boy turns out to be the perpetrator. D’oh! Who could have seen that coming? (Everyone)

Do you think that’s a harsh enough sentence? Consider he actually did it twice.
If he were a Democrat doing the same thing, rigging elections and accusing Republicans of being the culprits in a national disinformation campaign, would you accept such a weak slap on the wrist? Basically selling extra votes for $1000 a piece?

After the recent IPCC climate report an old 'Newsroom' clip

TheFreak says...

Bob's not one of the high paid Russian sock puppets.

Putin uses his educated trolls for important work. Stirring shit by taking the wrong position on absolutely everything is part time, low wage work. Bob's like the McDonalds cashier of Russian disinformation.

luxintenebris said:

"This will my Tesla stock go to the moon."

Are you saying "This will [TAKE] my Tesla stock go to the moon.[!]"?

Geez. You say so little, so often - can't you at least say it correctly?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

That's absolutely not what he said. Your confusion is understandable, his position changes daily....

https://www.alreporter.com/2021/07/07/mo-brooks-ever-changing-jan-6-story/

He said due to warnings of violence (which must be the planned violence of Trump supporters, no other violent attacks were being planned according to the FBI) he didn't go home for days before Jan 6, not just one night, and because of warnings of planned violence (all of which were about TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE CROWD PLANNING VIOLENCE) he wore a bullet proof vest to Trump's rally where there were no Democrats at all. Sorry to introduce some facts...I know how they bother you.

He does not, like you, still try to blame Democrats for verified Trumptards being moronic terrorists, although he tried to and failed, then blamed radical right wing nutjobs including Trump, anyone but him was responsible.

....and all white supremacists are on Trump's team, every single one. The professional racists know which party supports them, we all know Bob. Your attempts to erase the southern strategy from history and pretend today's Republicans are still the party of Lincoln only make you dishonest, they don't convince anyone who's had any interactions with Republicans or Democrats in the last 50 years.

It had nothing to do with still being afraid because of the baseball shootings, he said he had credible warnings that Trump's crowd would get violent. There weren't Democrats at that pre-coup anti-America pro-hatred rally he spoke at, telling them to go “take names and kick ass”, the seething Trumptards would have lynched any they found, like they tried to do to police, reporters, representatives, and the Vice President.

But we all know facts don't matter a whit to you, you'll just make up some new brainless self serving lies and pretend they're the truth, like always. That's the problem with being a liar, bob, nothing you say matters because you're so incredibly untrustworthy and unapologetic when, invariably, your lies are proven false that no one even pays much attention, they just wait for the rebuttal to get some verifiable fact.

Truth isn't propaganda, bob, and I'm just reporting the truth....he admitted he knew Trump's crowd intended violence days ahead of time, not Democrats who had no plans for violence and in fact didn't cause any.

Rewrite history all you want for yourself, but anyone with an IQ over 75 sees that it leaves you as a lying, silly twat who denies reality in favor of sycophantic and blatant lies, like "Jan 6 was a BLM attack". If that were true, Republicans would be the ones pushing to investigate, to prove that attack was from Democrats, not trying to hinder and invalidate any investigation, even ones they run, for fear their involvement becomes public knowledge.

Bob, just admit you're a non English speaking troll paid by a foreign power to spread disinformation. If you aren't, you should be. It wouldn't change your posts by one letter, but you would get paid for your anti American divisive lies.

bobknight33 said:

The threats came to him day before his Jan 6 speech. Not from Trump supporters but from the Democrats, the true racist of America,

Brooks, what was at the June 14 shooting ( Nut bag Bernie sanders supporter ) during the practicing for a charity softball game in Washington DC.


Guess facts in contest don't matter for you.

Just admit your a propaganda tool. This fact is clear as day.

Fox & GOP Freak Out About Door to Door Vaccination Campaign

newtboy says...

That 2% was enough that in the last year, life expectancy dropped a full year and a half for Americans.
The Delta variant death rate is >2.5%, and for every 5% of people over 50 (not 60) unvaccinated it goes up, and in America that's nearly half. Around 10% of vaccinated people can still get it, but they aren't being hospitalized and aren't dying.

If this happened under Biden while he ignored and minimized it you would not only blame him and call it the worst thing that ever happened to America (which it is in many ways), you would be calling for his execution for murdering 550000 Americans, you know it's true….but since Trump’s lack of leadership, lax attitude, and disinformation allowed over 550000 of the deaths, it’s China and Fouchi’s fault.

🤦‍♂️

bobknight33 said:

600000 dead is only a 2% Death rate.
Another way of saying it 98% survival rate.

And if you are younger than 60 it more like 99% survival rate.

So should you be forced or else be punished in some for or fashion for a 2% death rate?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Clearly you cannot read. The article is clear. The objective of the bipartisan group was not to win votes for either side, only to ensure a free and fair election in the face of the Trump administration's efforts to interfere and illegally sway results through lies, lawsuits, disinformation, voter suppression, and simple denial of reality and fact.

"There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.

The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. "


You are both dumb to try this lie, and a bold faced liar. You actually pointed us to your source that clearly says the exact opposite of what you claim. I'm pretty certain you didn't read it, because it's clear, and it calls you a liar too.

bobknight33 said:

The left subverted the election and admitted it in the article.

They colluded with the media, big tech, local and state governments with the sole purpose to sway voters and block opposition on a national scale.

I can read but can you take you blinders off?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

OMFG...can you even fucking read?
From your article I found on my own.....

...the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.

The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding.

Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction. After Election Day, they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result. “The untold story of the election is the thousands of people of both parties who accomplished the triumph of American democracy at its very foundation,” says Norm Eisen, a prominent lawyer and former Obama Administration official who recruited Republicans and Democrats to the board of the Voter Protection Program.

For Trump and his allies were running their own campaign to spoil the election. The President spent months insisting that mail ballots were a Democratic plot and the election would be “rigged.” His henchmen at the state level sought to block their use, while his lawyers brought dozens of spurious suits to make it more difficult to vote–an intensification of the GOP’s legacy of suppressive tactics. Before the election, Trump plotted to block a legitimate vote count. And he spent the months following Nov. 3 trying to steal the election he’d lost–with lawsuits and conspiracy theories, pressure on state and local officials, and finally summoning his army of supporters to the Jan. 6 rally that ended in deadly violence at the Capitol.

You call that defrauding America? You are absolutely totally bat shit crazy, it describes a bipartisan effort defending democracy from Trump's baseless partisan attacks on it, on voting, and on truth....claiming if he doesn't win, it's rigged, if he wins, it's perfect. No where did anyone even imply voting machines defrauded anyone, it clearly states the obvious opposite, that they not only didn't have any serious issues, but also a physical paper backup that, in multiple recounts, still matched the results the machines gave.

You are such a non stop and just dumb liar. No doubt it effects your family life horribly.

bobknight33 said:

America was defrauded by these machines and the left.

And they openly admit it.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/



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