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Colbert responds to #CancelColbert

andyboy23 says...

I don't disagree with your comments about Suey Park, as I said I think she acts crazy and I don't support her approach in any way. I think it's unfortunate that she's leading the charge on the other side of this thing, because I think she's doing a horrible job.

As I see it, Colbert is using Asian Americans (a minority that is also most definitely not atop the social power structure) as an example or prop to try to educate people about racism that's happening toward another group of people. Cool! We're helping out Native Americans. It's not really engaging Asian Americans though, who very commonly have racism directed at them as well. In my readings on this, it would seem a fair number (but NOT all) of Asian Americans grew up being ridiculed by things like "Ching chong ding dong", and it is steeped in an extremely negative racial connotation for that group of people.

I'm stretching to an extreme with this analogy, but I think it's necessary. What if Colbert instead called it the "The Cotton-picking Nigger Foundation for Racial Sensitivity"? I don't know about you, but I think that feels quite a bit more problematic.

But why does that cross a line where "Ching chong ding dong" doesn't? To be honest, while I think I could come up with some ideas that seem quite reasonable to me off the top of my head, I'm not *exactly* sure. Because at the end of the day, here's my reality -- I'm not an Asian American that was ridiculed with that saying and things like it, so I didn't have that firsthand personal experience. For all I know, for a large subgroup of Asian Americans, maybe it *is* very similar to the other example I mentioned would be for blacks.

So rather than thinking I have some magical grasp on what is offensive toward certain groups, I listen very carefully to what they're saying, and what their experience is. I think everybody should do that, and continue thinking about it and conversing about it. Instead, everybody seems to be rushing to Colbert's defense.

Colbert responds to #CancelColbert

shoany says...

As a Canadian of Asian descent, I just want to back up Colbert, here. If satire is "the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues," then I think he knocked this one out of the park. A lot of folks don't see "Redskins" as an offensive term because they grew up with it being everywhere; exaggerating and applying the same idea to the Asian population really highlights how ridiculous the name of this foundation is, but only because Western culture has only just recently started to agree that phrases like "Ching chong ding dong", "orientals" (unless you're Rob Ford), "gook", "slant", "chink", etc, are actually really offensive. If a pro sports team came up with the name "Vancouver Chinamen" or "Detroit Negroes" today (coupled with stereotypical logos) there would be a massive and immediate outrage. The only reason the Redskins have gotten away with their name is that the team was named long enough ago that the racial slur was widely acceptable to the non-First Nations public.

And really, this parallels racial awareness in North America; although racism is still very much a thing for people of all races, the First Nations population is still being outstandingly and horribly marginalized with very little support or attention being paid to them or their (still appallingly denied) rights. Here in Canada (in which we boast great racial and cultural diversity, the "cultural mixed salad" vs the US "melting pot"), we still haven't done anything to amend the fact that when we got here we took brutal advantage of a trusting and helpful culture, booted them out to the worst parts of the country and stranded them there.

Colbert responds to #CancelColbert

ChaosEngine says...

@andyboy, I still don't get why you think Colbert should apologise. Ok, you didn't think the joke was funny, that's fine, I didn't think the ching chong ding dong joke itself was particularly funny and the tweet out of context even less so. But why should he apologise?

Let's get this clear... satire of X is not X. Colberts response was reasonable (he even asked people not to attack Park on twitter over this).

What's really sad is Park's overt racism in the response. So yeah, funnily enough when you start talking about how "white men can't talk about this" people stop taking you seriously.

Actually, one more thing while I'm on this soapbox...

If you're a "hashtag activist"... that is a synonym for "doing fucking nothing". Posting on fucking twitter is not activism, it's posting on fucking twitter, and it's an insult to people who are out doing real work in aid of their causes.

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charlatantric says...

I'll go ahead and call "conspiracy" on this one.

Not that the guy cheated. I believe the reactions were genuine. But I'll call shenanigans on the producers.

The only real advertising to the "internet generation" these shows can garner are viral videos. Jeopardy has been leading the way. The demographic for these shows are older crowds, and with slipping ratings/advertising, they must muck for gold.

There's something waaaay too strange about the way the answer suddenly flashes on-screen. No usual stop in music, dinging, or reaction from anyone. It's as if the producers ad-libbed the contestant's answer to make an amazing video. To sell to us to watch.

Or... the guy at the switch was harumphing, arms crossed, laughing at this kid trying to answer such a tough puzzle. Then having an "oh shit' moment.

I don't know. There's definitely something... off about it all though.

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bobknight33 says...

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If the government can't run the VA why let it run Obama Care?

There is no problem that the government can't make worse.

Why is she not on 60 Minutes or such?
What is her Congressman or Senator ding for her?
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deathcow (Member Profile)

oritteropo says...

I thought it was related, but that's not the whole story either since obviously if you hook your doorbell's solonoid to an AC current the striker will just sit and vibrate in place rather than shooting out and dinging the bell.

Starting to get a bit off-topic though.

deathcow said:

Look up magnetic blowout.

The plasma moves because of the magnetic fields. I think, just like when you energize a coil and a metal rod moves one direction to ring a doorbell.

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lucky760 says...

The essential oils trap the stink under the water's surface, eh? Right, because, as we all know, burying something underwater isn't enough to contain its smell.

I liked the commercial, but it feels a lot like a ripoff of an Orbit gum commercial, from the proper British personality to the audible "ding" at the end.

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Dude pisses on red hot lava.

Don't park like a jerk

skinnydaddy1 says...

When i was a kid. My family became really good friends with a family that had just moved to the US from Germany. In 76 the Father bought his wife a 1976 Celica Liftback GT, Brand new. It was the last car she ever owned. He offered to buy her several cars over the years she refused. Immaculately cared for that car. I honestly had never seen one taken care of as well as this one was. A few years ago she died and I went to the funeral. Her husband had died a few years earlier. While her kids were cleaning out the old house. They found it under a car cover in the garage. Pretty much being the only car guy they knew. They called me to come look at it. It looked exactly like the day it was driven off the showroom floor. Bright red, No dents, dings, No color fade outside or inside. A little over 46k on the odometer. It started and ran like new. I honestly had never seen a car that old in that good of condition outside of car collection or show. I was honestly amazed. No clue if they ever sold it. I would not have but you never really know what some people will do.

VoodooV said:

I know a guy who is super obsessive about his truck, but he doesn't do shit like take up two lanes, he just becomes obsessive about parking away from everyone else even if he has to walk farther,

Quite honestly, I get it..but I don't. I understand the desire to protect your car from dings and other shit. But not to that degree. just by virtue of taking it out of your garage and driving and parking on public streets, the vehicle is going to get dinged up eventually.

I guess I just will never understand the desire to buy a super expensive luxury car if you're just going to be super paranoid about dings...why drive it then. Be Cameron's dad in Ferris Bueller's day off and just stare at it and wipe it with a diaper all day.

cars get dinged...deal with it you're not special.

Thing is though, that guy isn't THAT fat, so it shouldn't have been that difficult for him to climb over. and once he committed to it, it didn't take him that long. It took him so long because he was choking on his own rage and basking in his over-inflated sense of specialness.

public shaming of douchebags like this need to happen more often.

Don't park like a jerk

VoodooV says...

I know a guy who is super obsessive about his truck, but he doesn't do shit like take up two lanes, he just becomes obsessive about parking away from everyone else even if he has to walk farther,

Quite honestly, I get it..but I don't. I understand the desire to protect your car from dings and other shit. But not to that degree. just by virtue of taking it out of your garage and driving and parking on public streets, the vehicle is going to get dinged up eventually.

I guess I just will never understand the desire to buy a super expensive luxury car if you're just going to be super paranoid about dings...why drive it then. Be Cameron's dad in Ferris Bueller's day off and just stare at it and wipe it with a diaper all day.

cars get dinged...deal with it you're not special.

Thing is though, that guy isn't THAT fat, so it shouldn't have been that difficult for him to climb over. and once he committed to it, it didn't take him that long. It took him so long because he was choking on his own rage and basking in his over-inflated sense of specialness.

public shaming of douchebags like this need to happen more often.

Don't park like a jerk

lucky760 says...

Presumably, yes. It's pretty common practice for people, particularly with a new or expensive car, to park completely on the line between two lanes to avoid getting a ding in the door from someone parking too near. They'll do that and/or just park very far away in a large parking lot where no one else is likely to park.

Quboid said:

Did the guy (a dentist?) park like that to protect his car? How, by blocking the space beside so much that no one would bother parking there?

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JustSaying says...

The issue isn't the taste, it's the stupidity of the people broadcasting it. How can you not see this list of names for what it is. Bang Ding Ow. Seriously?

Deano said:

Isn't he just piling onto this with a weak disclaimer and then making similarly tasteless jokes?

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probie says...

I'm pretty sure this safely falls under the category of "just because you can, doesn't mean you should". Hate to see the pressure dings on those boards....



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