>> ^spoco2:

Exactly... this is why 99.9999999999999999999% of all conspiracy theories are absolute bunk.
All this shit that people think they 'know' about 9/11, and how it MUST have been thermite, MUST have been re-rigged to demolish.
They really need to get their heads around the fact that what they've come up with is something that is maybe, possible plausible but in NO WAY the most likely, the most reasonable, or even probable... they just come up with convoluted ways that things could conceivably occur and then decide that that MUST be fact.


Speaking of the Kennedy assassination there was no reason to kill him. None. People think it's because he was going to pull the troops out of Vietnam but he was never going to do that, they took one quote and turned it into a promise of his to pull them out like he was fighting more powerful interests. He was a bastard like all the other bastards. His historian even had to rewrite the books to make it look like he was a big pacifist.

Exactly... this is why 99.9999999999999999999% of all conspiracy theories are absolute bunk.

All this shit that people think they 'know' about 9/11, and how it MUST have been thermite, MUST have been pre-rigged to demolish.

They really need to get their heads around the fact that what they've come up with is something that is maybe, possible plausible but in NO WAY the most likely, the most reasonable, or even probable... they just come up with convoluted ways that things could conceivably occur and then decide that that MUST be fact.

Prediction: the right-wing element will make "critical thinking" a swear word like they've already done with "liberal" and "socialized", and any time anybody applies critical thinking, Fox merely has to point it out, and then that argument is de facto demolished.

Think whoever she's calling is surprised to hear she demolished another vehicle?

I'm thinking not. Takes a special kind of person to wreck a car you aren't even driving.

Hell the video shows how he actively cuts jobs over and over in companies and leaves them to sink or swim (usually sink) under the debt and screwed up profit margins they have to maintain that they artificially inflated. If they were sustainable, they wouldn't be selling the company off..because they'd make more siphoning off their 20% indefinitely.


And what they pay in taxes now is significantly less than they used to pay, when the nation was arguably doing it's best across all income brackets. And you see this jackwad just decimating people's lives and companies left and right by repeatedly doing this. And the defense is that they pay more taxes than you do?.....well you can't pay taxes if you're unemployed, and your tax contribution is going to be lower and lower the more money they hoover up or work to drive your wage down.

You should be wishing they paid such an astronomical rate on their taxes at the 1.5-2 million mark that they effectively earn nothing. That way there is no "profit" in them demolishing everyone else in the country to make 500k more and reinvesting and expanding is the name of the game instead of cut, horde, and bribe for favorable laws.

What this video shows is just wrong on so many levels, no matter what they claim or how the laws allow for...it's bullshit and should not be tolerated by anyone who isn't a lizard brained crank.

>> ^bareboards2:

The very first minute of this report says these planes have never been used in combat.
Why we are risking the lives of these pilots for a training plane? It is seriously nuts.
I think of it as penis waggling. Boys and their toys. Even the pilots said they were happy to fly again at first.
Who in the Pentagon is so invested in keeping these in the air and why? It isn't rational.


Dunno about penis waggling, politicians of all genders are generally of the mindset if we paid for something we should use it no matter how wasteful/dangerous/stupid it is.

That's why so many projects end up going over budgets and never working, because they are too "invested" either corruptly or politically to say enough is enough.

They need a bunch of kids getting cancer or born with birth defects (BP oil spill and all those non-harmful chemicals they dumped in the water *wink wink nudge nudge*), or a school being demolished by a plane falling out of the sky to give them the proof they need to not look like they screwed up in the first place and instead look like they gave it a chance but obviously the people advising them are fools...never the politician or people in charge.....never.

We're talking about the same people who generally promote family values and hetero relationships while they are heading to the restroom for a little rough and tumble with a random dude they just met or whatever other devious example you want to use. Bunch of corrupt mfers basically, who give no shits about you until it makes them look bad when they don't.

You know, it's great and all but I question when these revelations start happening around the time the voting is coming up.


Issues like this, really shouldn't be issues, but I always feel like they keep them around to get the votes they need when they want them. Since they are one of the few things that aren't the public versus corporate interests.....it allows them to pick up votes and not demolish their donations.

And, it's a shame that needing votes is the only thing that makes them consider non-like minded interests.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Craig did extremely well in that debate, especially in the segment where they asked eachother questions. You can see that at the 1:19:00 mark, and I think any objective observer would have to admit that Christopher just completely folded..he was stammering and unsure of himself, a rare thing for him, but there it is on video.
Could you give an example of an argument that Craig used from that debate which you feel is inadequate?
>> ^A10anis:
>> ^shinyblurry:
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gt;> ^A10anis:
I watched every religious debate Hitch had. And I waited, in anticipation, for someone to provide an argument which he could not refute. It never happened. Using logic, free thought, intellect, rationale and common sense - not to mention his acerbic wit - he demolished all the religious apologists who were unwise enough to take him on.

You must have missed this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBx4vvlbZ8

Actually, no, I didn't. And, if you seriously think that Craig bested Hitch, you should watch it again. Craig, in every debate, simply uses pseudo babble with a liberal sprinkling of gospel. Never has Craig been able to back up his "argument" with anything but faith, and faith cannot be used as an argument. Hitch, on the other hand.... well, if you can't see it, sadly, you never will.



You say; "Could you give an example of an argument that Craig used from that debate which you feel is inadequate?"
Yes, all of them.
As for your assertion that Hitch "folded," and was "unsure of himself." What are you talking about? He was perfectly concise and logical. He, quite understandably, becomes terse in the face of "white noise" being presented as fact. As you say; "there it is on video."

Craig did extremely well in that debate, especially in the segment where they asked eachother questions. You can see that at the 1:19:00 mark, and I think any objective observer would have to admit that Christopher just completely folded..he was stammering and unsure of himself, a rare thing for him, but there it is on video.

Could you give an example of an argument that Craig used from that debate which you feel is inadequate?

>> ^A10anis:
>> ^shinyblurry:
>> ^A10anis:
I watched every religious debate Hitch had. And I waited, in anticipation, for someone to provide an argument which he could not refute. It never happened. Using logic, free thought, intellect, rationale and common sense - not to mention his acerbic wit - he demolished all the religious apologists who were unwise enough to take him on.

You must have missed this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBx4vvlbZ8

Actually, no, I didn't. And, if you seriously think that Craig bested Hitch, you should watch it again. Craig, in every debate, simply uses pseudo babble with a liberal sprinkling of gospel. Never has Craig been able to back up his "argument" with anything but faith, and faith cannot be used as an argument. Hitch, on the other hand.... well, if you can't see it, sadly, you never will.

>> ^shinyblurry:

>> ^A10anis:
I watched every religious debate Hitch had. And I waited, in anticipation, for someone to provide an argument which he could not refute. It never happened. Using logic, free thought, intellect, rationale and common sense - not to mention his acerbic wit - he demolished all the religious apologists who were unwise enough to take him on.

You must have missed this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBx4vvlbZ8


Actually, no, I didn't. And, if you seriously think that Craig bested Hitch, you should watch it again. Craig, in every debate, simply uses pseudo babble with a liberal sprinkling of gospel. Never has Craig been able to back up his "argument" with anything but faith, and faith cannot be used as an argument. Hitch, on the other hand.... well, if you can't see it, sadly, you never will.

>> ^A10anis:
I watched every religious debate Hitch had. And I waited, in anticipation, for someone to provide an argument which he could not refute. It never happened. Using logic, free thought, intellect, rationale and common sense - not to mention his acerbic wit - he demolished all the religious apologists who were unwise enough to take him on.


You must have missed this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBx4vvlbZ8

I watched every religious debate Hitch had. And I waited, in anticipation, for someone to provide an argument which he could not refute. It never happened. Using logic, free thought, intellect, rationale and common sense - not to mention his acerbic wit - he demolished all the religious apologists who were unwise enough to take him on.

YouTube description (via Google Translate) says:

April 7, 2012, a driver in the car Suzuki Grand Vitara, rode in his car in the showroom Nissan Pelican Auto and gave it a pogrom. There is little information, showroom not comment on the circumstances. It seems no one was hurt ...

Comment witness:
The man on the Grand Vitara, drove straight into the cabin, and called in like 2 times from different angles, twisted on itself, and the cabin has finally parked in the middle of the cash department. Outcome not weak, raskurocheno passenger compartment floor, crumpled at least two demonstration vehicles (X-Trail and Qashqai), completely demolished wall of cash on the street crushed Patrol for a test drive. Thank God, he was told no one was hurt, the girls from the cash register had time to rebound.

Nothing about faulty shocks.