This appears to just be a conversation between two equal individuals about current events, and of course therein lies the problem.

Bill O'Reilly is incredibly self absorbed and has no respect for Obama but he should at least have respect for the office that Obama holds and as such should maintain some sense of propriety when speaking with him. Now don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that he should show reverence, I am just saying that civility and courtesy would add legitimacy to this so called interview.

Bill doesn't care about the answers to the questions as to him the question is more a method through which he can express his own opinion on the matter. So why should he wait for an answer? He must truly think that people are more interested in his opinion than they are the President's.

As for the general value of this "conversation" that we have been made privy to...
Well, this dynamic has been around for a long long time.

"The 'interview,' as at present managed, is generally the joint product of some humbug of a hack politician and another humbug of a newspaper reporter." ["The Nation," Jan. 28, 1869]

Humbug - a person who is not what he or she claims or pretends to be; impostor.

Good tweet on the current events
http://twitter.com/SultanAlQassemi#

Really? You never heard Glenn Beck call Obama a racist? If you prefer, him state his opinion that Obama is a racist. If you never saw that clip then just how aware of current events could you be I wonder? Obviously Faux wouldn't have replayed that clip very much so anyone who only watches that crap would only have had 1 chance to see it, which explains why most of these probably didn't catch the one time it was there. I can only assume you only watch Faux then and any hope of you actually being informed is thrown out the window. Just another group of mindless righties on a drip feed from Faux.

Well, with the hindenberg, we didn't see literally people dying before our eyes. We knew they were, but there were no images of people burning and crashing to their deaths.

FAQ:
"Note: The presence of human fatality is acceptable and not considered "snuff" if presented as a limited portion of a lengthy educational, informative news report or documentary."

I'm reading this as a video having some sort of insight into an informative event. But do we really need to actually see the man murdered in order to be informed of the event? Can't text such as what is in the videos description, give us enough information?

I'm thinking of a scenario like this:

You say to me:
"Man A was murdered by Man B"

I say:
"That's not enough information, I need to actually see Man B murder Man A."

I'm not following this logic. And it's not as if this is a current event, nor do I really understand what the relevance in anyone's lives are for this to be considered "news". I mean, you can't spell news without new! (oh god that was lame)


Also, if we can just upload a "limited portion of a lengthy" piece of a news event, can someone sift a video collage of various people being murdered, all taken from documentaries, and set it to an uplifting soundtrack of something?


>> ^Kevlar:

>> ^Throbbin:
I don't think this is snuff. It was a very powerful political incident in Japan.

Back to sincere discussion, I can see this viewpoint as well. It's always seemed like historical events (Hindenburg, fires, earthquakes, etc.) were held differently in the Sift's estimation... Maybe some clarification on that front would be helpful moving forward. Then, again, this is why I stick to Comedysift.

Oh come on, is this the best you can do, i.e., reach into the past to point out Democratic racism? I'm aware that the Democratic Party had a number of racists in the past. So did the Republicans. At one time even the "Great Emancipator" Abraham Lincoln wanted to deport blacks to Africa after they were freed.

- My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia, -- to their own native land.

Quoth the first Republican president, of the Grand Old Party - the "party of Lincoln"

- Free them (slaves), and make them politically and socially, our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this; and if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not.

- If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.

And let's not forget St. Ron of Paul's racist newsletters from the past.


Okay, now that we've got our history lessons out of the way, what's going on in the HERE and NOW? Well, we have:

- Republicans and Tea Party activists questioning the citizenship of Barack HUSSEIN Obama (emphasis theirs, not mine)
- The "Yup, I'm a racist." shirt becoming a popular item at Tea Party events ^{1 2}
- Tea Party activist Mark Williams racist remarks and statements ^{3 4}
- Racist signs and slogans at Tea Party events ^{5 6}
- And this:



So, are ALL Tea Party activists racist? NO. Is there an obvious, in-your-face racist demographic within the Tea Party movement? YES.
Not a history lesson, but a report on current events.

Also, for those behind on current events, here is a link to the engie page, top right are arrows between days showing his new weapons.

On Day 2, there's a secret picture hidden.

On Day 3, there's two secret pictures hidden.

However, one may or may not be a tad too awesome for me to not share with my fellow sifties.

As awful as this is, and as much as I applaud the speaker for standing up and talking straight, I have to say that I'm a bit surprised at her surprise of the profit-mongering corner-cutting, lying and corporatistic actions going on. If you've followed current events for the past few decades, you should be surprised - it's been getting more and more blatant. And not just in the US. You should only be surprised if you've been turning a blind eye so far because your life hasn't been impacted (too much) yet.

So congratulations on waking up. Good morning, and good luck.

Nice EDD! And considering current events in the Gulf, it's a good time for it.

I think you hit a lot of nails on their heads. I'm thinking follow the money and power. That's the endpoint that can't be hidden easily...because the purpose of power is influence. Where and how is that coming from. Who's benefiting. In the US I'm sure you'll see that easily. Just look at who's gotten money and what policies have been pushed and who benefits from them. For Obama for the most part it's investment banks and insurance companys so far(so far). Actually the same constituency as Bush but by other means and words.
The major foreign policy push under Bush 2 was supposed to be an adrenalin like shot to your countries dominance in the world but it didn't work easily. But empires can't change their trajectory on a dime. Countries investments are set and wars are in play. So Obama, carries out the same basic policies under a new PR campaign, with well worded adjustments but in the same trajectory. >> ^enoch:

i had some people ask me about "seeing the farm" concerning this video.
while i will not attribute a draconian "they" to these ephemeral owners nor will i ascribe a universal intent to dominate but i also will not close my eyes to the indoctrination and subversion of my fellow citizens.
i really feel this is a worthy conversation and one where a better vehicle than comments should be used but that is all i have at the moment.that being said i shall attempt..feebly most likely..to convey how i see things in the most simplest of terms:
financiers,corporations and governments are in the business of expansion.over the centuries these names were different but with the same goal.over the past two hundred years these systems have increasingly grown....cozy.
how and what tools do these institutions employ to gain their objective?
people,workers and their ability to produce and in the past 50 years here in america..consume.
how do they get these people to throw themselves into huge debt?
or think that working three jobs is normal?
how do they get a country to stop producing its own food and import?
how do they get an entire country to agree that mass slaughter is in the best interest of the nation?
an over-simplified answer:
control the media and control the message.
control the education and indoctrinate children to not only hear that message but find it reasonable as they join the workforce.
keep the citizenry barely cognizent of current events and distract them with cheap and tawdry entertainment.
over the past 4000 years wars were fought over religion but in the last 100 they have mainly been fought over nationalism but BOTH forms had the same goal in mind....expansion and the aquisition of resources.
the vehicle may have changed but the goal was the same.
and WHO do YOU think fight these wars?not those who wish to prosper from the spoils but rather the most poor and ill-educated from that society.
does this mean there is some secret cabal of bildebergers planning the future of their utopian society?
i dont know..but i dont think so.things are just as they were centuries ago..those few who wield power wield it for their own interests..not yours.
they throw scraps and larder in the general publics direction to keep things relatively stable and keep production going.
they need you to buy the product.
they need you to find it good.
they need you to go fight and die in their war campaigns so they can aquire more resources.
they need you to not think too hard or look too closely.
because if you did think and look closely you may find that there is a hand in your back pocket and it has been stealing not only your future but your childrens.
that you are free is only an illusion.
and if you realized that..well.."they" would become very anxious.
because "they" need you.
WHO are "they"?
goldman sachs,the fed,walmart,the federal government...the list is not too long and all the players know each other but are they all in cahoots?
meh../shrugs..maybe i am being naive but i dont think so.i think they all have the same agenda which is the accumulation of wealth and power.
it is a small club..
and you and i ain't in it.

i had some people ask me about "seeing the farm" concerning this video.
while i will not attribute a draconian "they" to these ephemeral owners nor will i ascribe a universal intent to dominate but i also will not close my eyes to the indoctrination and subversion of my fellow citizens.

i really feel this is a worthy conversation and one where a better vehicle than comments should be used but that is all i have at the moment.that being said i shall attempt..feebly most likely..to convey how i see things in the most simplest of terms:

financiers,corporations and governments are in the business of expansion.over the centuries these names were different but with the same goal.over the past two hundred years these systems have increasingly grown....cozy.
how and what tools do these institutions employ to gain their objective?
people,workers and their ability to produce and in the past 50 years here in america..consume.
how do they get these people to throw themselves into huge debt?
or think that working three jobs is normal?
how do they get a country to stop producing its own food and import?
how do they get an entire country to agree that mass slaughter is in the best interest of the nation?

an over-simplified answer:
control the media and control the message.
control the education and indoctrinate children to not only hear that message but find it reasonable as they join the workforce.
keep the citizenry barely cognizent of current events and distract them with cheap and tawdry entertainment.

over the past 4000 years wars were fought over religion but in the last 100 they have mainly been fought over nationalism but BOTH forms had the same goal in mind....expansion and the aquisition of resources.
the vehicle may have changed but the goal was the same.
and WHO do YOU think fight these wars?not those who wish to prosper from the spoils but rather the most poor and ill-educated from that society.

does this mean there is some secret cabal of bildebergers planning the future of their utopian society?
i dont know..but i dont think so.things are just as they were centuries ago..those few who wield power wield it for their own interests..not yours.
they throw scraps and larder in the general publics direction to keep things relatively stable and keep production going.
they need you to buy the product.
they need you to find it good.
they need you to go fight and die in their war campaigns so they can aquire more resources.
they need you to not think too hard or look too closely.
because if you did think and look closely you may find that there is a hand in your back pocket and it has been stealing not only your future but your childrens.
that you are free is only an illusion.
and if you realized that..well.."they" would become very anxious.
because "they" need you.

WHO are "they"?
goldman sachs,the fed,walmart,the federal government...the list is not too long and all the players know each other but are they all in cahoots?
meh../shrugs..maybe i am being naive but i dont think so.i think they all have the same agenda which is the accumulation of wealth and power.
it is a small club..
and you and i ain't in it.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f44_1271214688

From SOURCE: "I don't know anything about this video other than my wife's relatives sent it to us. The footage shows a red shirt having his head blown off in what looks like a completely unprovoked attack. Now I'm no forensic scientist, but what occurs doesn't look like the work of a rubber b More..ullet, more like a point blank shotgun round being ploughed through the guy's skull.

I'm not uploading this with any political motivation; I am actually having a hard time trying to understand where the truth lies in all that is going on, mostly due to the conflicting media reports. I am neither red nor yellow, I am simply interested in current events such as this.

Red shirt or yellow, I care not. All I do see though is a poor bastard get his head blown off and some very naughty police work. "

Rubber sabots are not to be shot at someone's head, as it will cause this. The moment the first person was killed, the situation went from protest to war. It has been proven time and again that head shots and center mass shots can be fatal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-lethal_weapon#Ammunition

http://www.patfinucanecentre.org/policing/plastic/plastic23072001b.html

classic.
this and "hey pal..i dont know if your up on current events but we just got our asses kicked".
or..
"oh thats it man..you're dog food".
ha..i'll stop.i could do this all day.
one of my favorite films and a rarity when a sequel is as good,if not better,than the original.
close call though.
ridley scott..james cameron......cloooooose call.

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

Everything you listed is an "Olbermann" level diatribic exaggeration driven by a leftist bias

Let me get this straight.

Torturing innocent people to death is an exaggeration? As in, we didn't do it? Or, we kinda did it but it's not as bad as all of those Dirty Fucking Hippies think it was?

And to condemn this makes one a "leftist"?

Invading Iraq and murdering over 100,000 innocent people, over false pretenses in order to fulfill sycophantic bloody neocon ideas, is somehow an exaggeration?

And to speak out against it makes one a "leftist"?

Purposefully destroying our economy and plunging the country into the worst recession in 50 years is somehow an exaggeration?


For a "statistician" you sure know fuckall about current events, recent history, or reality.

I think the difference between a teacher and a good teacher is that a good teacher gives a shit about their students' futures. I had the misfortune of having teachers (not all, but most) who treated it like a job instead of an honour or responsibility. I make a point of meeting with teachers (my brother's, my nephews/nieces, and my kids teachers) as much as I can. I usually won't go off on them if I disagree, but it does help me understand what role they will assume with their students, and if it will be necessary for me to supplement the kids education.

A young persons outlook on life is more often than not cemented into permanence by the time they graduate from high school. Some will change and blossom into more open-minded folks later in life, but not too many.

If there is one thing that bothers me even more than complacent teachers, it's complacent parents. I really don't like it when parents don't push their kids, but where I come from it happens far too often.

One thing I want to teach my kids (that I learned from my parents) is that as young people they will have the opportunity to push their peers if they think it's merited. I was able to help some peers who had hardscrabble upbringings in their childhood, and it can make a difference.

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In reply to this comment by Throbbin:
Enoch - bravo!


We need more teachers like Enoch. The robots might as well go work in a factory somewhere.


thanks man!
i am not the smartest man nor the most educated,in fact i was a horrible student.i fell into teaching late in life and found a genuine passion for it.
i taught comparative religions for two years but as i have told others,this was an elective class for adults.
when the alternative school for teens lost funding i went into the public school system at the behest of dr carlos.
i loved it the first day.
to teach adults is one thing but to have so many young minds ready to be jump started is a whole new arena and i was excited!
i lasted 6 maybe 7 weeks in that school.
not due to the kids..they were GREAT.
it was the other teachers and the administrators who had a problem with me.
not with my kids test scores,nor their assignments.
it was due to the fact that i was not following the precise dictates of NCLB and how i was expected to deliver that curriculum.
my argument was that if my students were doing well on the mandatory quizzes,which is a crucial to federal funding,who CARES how i taught them?
the school board took issue with,what they called "my attitude".
i was told i needed to grade my kids notebooks...i refused,because it has no bearing on what they have learned and is irrelevant.
i was told i could not grade them on participation...i argued that is crucially more vital than a notebook.
i was written up three times for supposed "prejudicial teaching practices",which was only my strategy in getting a lazy thinker to stop being lazy.
what i was doing is the first 20 minutes of the period i would have the class discuss how a historical event could be related to a current event.(my way of interjecting civics).
if a student regurgitated a textbook answer i knew he/she was trying to slip by with only rudimentary understanding of what we were covering.
so i would hammer that student the entire period and make an example of that student.
embarrassing? maybe
uncomfortable?most likely
will they come to my class ill prepared again?
never in a million years.
i also got into trouble for adding three bonus questions on every quiz that were worth 10%.
they were essay questions that i wanted in the students own words.
this was more for the kids that maybe didnt take tests well and i gave an opportunity to reveal that they did have a nominal understanding of the material and hence could bolster their grade a tad.
i also graded on participation.
if you did well on tests but didnt interact with the class i counted that against you.
that got me into some hot water also.
the school system was not looking for a teacher but a warm body to take attendance.
not for that kind of money or any amount of money.
now i tutor my friends kids when they need it.
of course i dont get paid but thats not what is important.
what IS important is to get these kids excited and curious.to become passionate about learning.
that, in itself, is a pretty big bonus in my book.
till next time.
namaste.

In reply to this comment by Throbbin:
Enoch - bravo!


We need more teachers like Enoch. The robots might as well go work in a factory somewhere.


thanks man!
i am not the smartest man nor the most educated,in fact i was a horrible student.i fell into teaching late in life and found a genuine passion for it.
i taught comparative religions for two years but as i have told others,this was an elective class for adults.
when the alternative school for teens lost funding i went into the public school system at the behest of dr carlos.
i loved it the first day.
to teach adults is one thing but to have so many young minds ready to be jump started is a whole new arena and i was excited!
i lasted 6 maybe 7 weeks in that school.
not due to the kids..they were GREAT.
it was the other teachers and the administrators who had a problem with me.
not with my kids test scores,nor their assignments.
it was due to the fact that i was not following the precise dictates of NCLB and how i was expected to deliver that curriculum.
my argument was that if my students were doing well on the mandatory quizzes,which is a crucial to federal funding,who CARES how i taught them?
the school board took issue with,what they called "my attitude".
i was told i needed to grade my kids notebooks...i refused,because it has no bearing on what they have learned and is irrelevant.
i was told i could not grade them on participation...i argued that is crucially more vital than a notebook.
i was written up three times for supposed "prejudicial teaching practices",which was only my strategy in getting a lazy thinker to stop being lazy.
what i was doing is the first 20 minutes of the period i would have the class discuss how a historical event could be related to a current event.(my way of interjecting civics).
if a student regurgitated a textbook answer i knew he/she was trying to slip by with only rudimentary understanding of what we were covering.
so i would hammer that student the entire period and make an example of that student.
embarrassing? maybe
uncomfortable?most likely
will they come to my class ill prepared again?
never in a million years.
i also got into trouble for adding three bonus questions on every quiz that were worth 10%.
they were essay questions that i wanted in the students own words.
this was more for the kids that maybe didnt take tests well and i gave an opportunity to reveal that they did have a nominal understanding of the material and hence could bolster their grade a tad.
i also graded on participation.
if you did well on tests but didnt interact with the class i counted that against you.
that got me into some hot water also.
the school system was not looking for a teacher but a warm body to take attendance.
not for that kind of money or any amount of money.
now i tutor my friends kids when they need it.
of course i dont get paid but thats not what is important.
what IS important is to get these kids excited and curious.to become passionate about learning.
that, in itself, is a pretty big bonus in my book.
till next time.
namaste.