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The Battle Over Confederate Monuments
I'm part way there. In government buildings, city parks, etc., sure -- take 'em down. State flags incorporating the confederate flag? Yeah. Probably time to change.
Civil war battlefields / memorials? Leave 'em up. Stone Mountain? Leave it. Placards noting that these people fought for the wrong side, for wrong reasons (90% of which boils down to slavery) can / should be included. Make it clear that the efforts of these people to try to keep slavery around were evil and wrong.
I've seen it noted that there are no monuments to Hitler in Germany. True, but reminders of the terrible Nazi legacy remain, in Germany and elsewhere. Concentration camps remain, still standing as a reminder of the human capacity for evil. Nazi flags, logos, and equipment remain in museums.
In China, images and monuments to Mao are everywhere. In spite of the fact that even the Communist Party there admits that his policies and actions were terrible -- the devastating Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, etc. Some Chinese can remember and celebrate the good that Mao did (perhaps a small list) while simultaneously acknowledging his extremely tarnished legacy.
I think that being very quick to say that ALL people on the Confederate side of the Civil War were evil and wrong while their counterparts in the Union were clearly the "real Americans" is entirely too easy. The CSA was founded almost entirely in support of a very evil primary goal -- to keep slavery around. But the people in it, even the people running it, were different from the people on the other side mainly due to accidents of birth location. They fought for what they thought was necessary / right. They were wrong. But, they were real Americans -- and acknowledging that they could have been wrong in that way reminds us that the potential to end up on the wrong side of history also exists for us.
2yo Kid Greets Everyone on his Flight with Tiny Fist Bump
Oh come on, those nice people with the shaved heads and the white singlets just really like Asian symbols of luck and prosperity!
Same as all those rednecks who value the confederate flag as a symbol of independence. Nothing racist about it at all...
Haven't most people in the Western world?
Top 10 Products Banned on Amazon
Ha! Yep, I got SS eagle pins recommended.
Here's some my new recommendation that now show on amazon
"Rape All Girls" - https://amzn.com/B015V52VSW
Buckyballs ripoffs - http://amzn.com/B0183KNY06
Tons of Nazi items
SS deaths head pin - http://amzn.com/B00K8DBSZA
1938 2 Reichsmark coin -http://amzn.com/B008LP90MA
Nazi flag, Fascist Italian flag, Imperial Japan flag, and yes small to gigantic cheap to expensive embroider Confederate flags
http://amzn.com/B003J67I98
And digital books like Anarchist cookbook, Nazi scanned ebooks of unpublished books by Nazis that wrote after escape to Argentina, but the works were unpublished, so its scanned pages from old typewriter copy.
The strangest stuff on recommendations, also Eroge game about drugging girl and raping her for PC and a lolicon
http://amzn.com/B00PZ0SRFK
Amazon has wild shit, you can find everything in that video one trick I notice, just mispell the item and bam found
I bet you're getting some pretty interesting product recommendations now.
YEEEEEHAAAAAAW!
Would of been cooler if painted orange with a Confederate flag on its roof.
Planned Parenthood EXPOSED! Caught On Hidden Camera Selling
So sifters want to kill the video because it does not "fit" you point of view.
Shameful
Next thing the left will want to do is ban all confederate flags in attempts to erase history. Oh wait this is already happening.
Karma, Baby: Fender Bender at Confederate Flag Parade
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Confederate Flag Parade in Georgia. Wait for it....
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Karma, Baby: Fender Bender at Confederate Flag Parade
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Karma, Baby: Fender Bender at Confederate Flag Parade
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Confederate Flag Parade in Georgia. Wait for it....
"Rape" van?!? Jesus, newt, that's a bit much... and yeah, it was cooler. They turned the damn thing into a freaking tank half the time. Also, no confederate flag painted on it and not named for a general on team slavery, therefore cooler.
I will admit that the respective token women on the A-Team weren't a patch on Daisy.
Finally, what's with this nonsense about the A-Team being bad shots? Do you have any idea how difficult it is to fire an assault rifle at someone on full auto and not accidentally hit them? Look at this picture. Any idiot can hit the black section, but it takes almost superhuman marksmanship to unload a full clip into the white section!
The A-Team are like Batman. They could easily roll in and murder the hell out of everyone, but they choose the hard path. Want more proof?
Here's Murdoch (the least combat capable of the team) hitting a tire on moving target from a chasing car.... with a handgun and in one shot! And he does it in such a way that van does an epic roll and everyone inside is still ok. That's not just good, that's god like.
And while we're recapping 80s shows, Knight Rider was also better than the Dukes. </stirring>
Also, I love that this has turned into a discussion on the A-team vs Hazzard. It's exactly as much respect as those confederate flag waving douchebags in the video deserve.
Oh, you had me until your arguments WHY A-team was better.
Lets see...black 'rape' van better than a high flying, 'street legal' racing Charger? I respectfully disagree.
Better theme song, not to my ears, but both are good.
Peppard, better than Uncle Jesse, depends on the episode to me. Mr. T, OK, he's better than any single Duke character...but Murdock wasn't 1/4 the comedy relief of Roscoe P Coltrane, Enos, and Flash....and the Team had nothing to answer Daisy!
"I love it when a plan come's together", great line (I still say it all the time), but then again, so was "Luke, how come you didn't stop for me?" asked by Bo after diving in the window of the General at about 30 mph!
Then you have the military supermen that can't hit a person-ever VS the country boys that can hit moving targets from moving targets with arrows wrapped with dynamite and moonshine Molotov's! COME ON!
But all that said, 9/10 episodes of Hazard were basically the same story, Boss Hog is stealing something and the boys need to escape the crooked law to stop him. At least A-Team had more story variation, more explosions, and just as many car flips/jumps. Kind of an apple/orange thing to me. My 12 year old self was glad they were not on at the same time, no DVR back then.
Grimm (Member Profile)
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Confederate Flag Parade in Georgia. Wait for it....
Well, the guy was lucky to have the scene captured on video. But I don't see his problem with the supposed confederate flag.
Playing a bit of the devil's advocate here... but I'm sure most people here understands it anyway.
Why do they hate the confederate (battle) flag so much? It makes no sense. Do they just hate because they want to hate? I hear these excuses saying that it's a symbol of hate or racism. Yet I don't. I don't see it as a symbol for those two. I see it for what it is, the flag that people associated with as the confederate. I see historical value in it.
The people who are angry over a mere flag needs to wake the F up. The people who are hating it needs a reality check. That flag and its symbol has been a part of history for many years. It has represented a part of American history that should not be forgotten. These flags should not be taken down just because people are angry or hating over it. As long as the confederate flag is flown below the American flag, I am fine with letting it be displayed.
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The Daily Show - Wack Flag
I sincerely apologize for my ignorance, and thank you for setting the record straight. (really)
My incorrect understanding of that (education about the war in Germany) came from about 40% being presented with bad information (or interpreting information incorrectly), and 60% drawing the wrong conclusions based on the censorship of Nazi imagery there.
Before commenting, I did quick web research to support the information I had heard about the censorship side of things there. When that basically confirmed what I thought, I neglected to do the same due diligence with regards to how the war is taught in schools.
...Pretty shitty on my part, especially considering that my opener in my previous comment was that it would be "interesting" to compare how education handles history in both countries, and then apparently I wasn't actually interested enough to actually fact-check.
So again, I apologize.
With regards to the issues in the Daily Show video, ie. the Confederate flag, I think it is probably reasonable to say that in my opinion it would be a good idea to remove the flag from use for Government / State purposes. The way Germany handles Nazi imagery goes beyond that. I'm not sure that I would agree with that extent of what amounts to censorship in handling it, but that is just my opinion.
So I guess in summary, it really *is* interesting to consider both countries approaches to handling uncomfortable bits of our past. I just should have actually done it properly when I said it the first time.
I dont know of any country other than Germany or Austria were the term "never again" is given that monumental weight in education.. saying that ww2 is largely glossed over in shools is so wrong it actually hurts...