Religion? Obama only worships Obama.

I will vote for anyone opposing him that has a chance of winning to get his cancer out of the Oval Office, including Jesus-Santorum-Romneymohammed, Ricky Schroder, Don King or a motherfooking cinder block.

Never mind the man's cloaked and mainstream-media-hidden personal history. His record of failure as President of these United States is enough.

A flying teapot explains exactly nothing; it has no explanatory power. The idea of God does. Between evolution and special creation you have exausted all the possibilities. You have faith in a self-creating universe, I have faith that it was designed by an all powerful being. I see evidence of design, and since it is mathematically impossible it happened by chance, God is a far more plausible hypothesis according to the evidence.

>> ^botono9:
>> ^shinyblurry:
Yes, Hitchens tried to cloak himself in the vast and endless void of unbelief, yet Lane quickly cornered him and he was forced to admit that he did not in fact believe God exists, which is the assertion of atheism, regardless of how you try to game the definition. Did you miss that part? Of course he didn't have any arguments for this assertion. I think Hitchens fell far short of even the most objective measure of success here.
Do you believe there is a teapot orbiting the sun somewhere between Jupiter and Neptune? Please present your evidence for or against. Any refusal to present evidence will be taken as proof that you failed the debate.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Yes, Hitchens tried to cloak himself in the vast and endless void of unbelief, yet Lane quickly cornered him and he was forced to admit that he did not in fact believe God exists, which is the assertion of atheism, regardless of how you try to game the definition. Did you miss that part? Of course he didn't have any arguments for this assertion. I think Hitchens fell far short of even the most objective measure of success here.

Do you believe there is a teapot orbiting the sun somewhere between Jupiter and Neptune? Please present your evidence for or against. Any refusal to present evidence will be taken as proof that you failed the debate.

You're welcome.

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>> ^oritteropo:

OK.>> ^Auger8:
Someone with more star power than me fix the tag from "clocking device" to "CLOAKING device", anyway very very interesting footage I'm looking forward to some follow-up research on this.

>> ^toferyu:

The important fact here is that it seems to be coming straight from Uranus.


then it must be a Klingon!

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>> ^oritteropo:

OK.>> ^Auger8:
Someone with more star power than me fix the tag from "clocking device" to "CLOAKING device", anyway very very interesting footage I'm looking forward to some follow-up research on this.

OK.>> ^Auger8:

Someone with more star power than me fix the tag from "clocking device" to "CLOAKING device", anyway very very interesting footage I'm looking forward to some follow-up research on this.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'space, mercury, alien ship, clocking device, solar flare' to 'space, mercury, alien ship, cloaking device, solar flare' - edited by oritteropo

Someone with more star power than me fix the tag from "clocking device" to "CLOAKING device", anyway very very interesting footage I'm looking forward to some follow-up research on this.

what is that?! i don't know folks... that's why I'm definitely sure it's a cloaked alien spaceship.

>> ^dannym3141:

The very first thing i thought of was some mechanism similar to our northern lights, but i have no grasp of the distances, axes (unless the weird artifact line is one) or sizes or anything from the video to argue for it.
I guess we're seeing in IR, so all we know for sure is that something is hot around that region, bearing in mind that it's at least the diameter of mercury itself, so it's a fucking big whatever it is. A ship that big? Well, i guess if you say it's a ship you can say it's any size you like, we're in the realm of imagination.
Edit:
Also, culd be a fault in the equipment.
Edit 2:
http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/sccmovies/mpegs/2010/HI1/20101203_1216_hi1
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Happens several places on that video, it looks like some artifact of the video that comes from the planet when the CME hits.


You nailed it with that Edit2 video. It's just an artifact of failing to mask the enormous brightness of the planets out.

I think this is a more accurate explanation.
I'm not convinced that a race which advanced enough technology to travel here and cloak them selves would make the mistake of hiding so close to a star where it is most likely their technology would be foiled by a coronal mass ejection. Hide further away from the sun!


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45571392/ns/technology_and_science-science/#.Tt_3vLIk6nB

>> ^packo:
because things like religion, abortion, immigration... while important to people, aren't important to politicians who use them as "look over here, don't look there" tactics...
they don't want you to focus on how they are blatantly working against the average American citizen's economic interest for their corporate and financial masters
they want you to fight over issues they themselves deem unimportant while feigning concern
they'll use semantics to confuse issues rather than take action
they'll wrap themselves in the flag, all the while ushering in fascism for their own short term social/economic benefit
these people aren't patriots, they are committing treason, and should be hounded through the streets until they can no longer run due to exhaustion; then made public examples of
public servants? the only people they are servicing are themselves
these aren't the departments of this or that I'm talking about... I'm talking directly about the people elected by the citizenry to represent them
they're selling your future, and the future of your children... for the right to suckle at the tit of your new corporate and banking masters


I agree with a lot of what you're saying here but you also make a lot of common mistakes.

first of all, the "important issues" that "matter to people" that powerful people cloak themselves in. Things like abortion, gun control, illegal immigration, terrorism...are wholey fabricated by those same politicians. They're not just using these issues to disctract you, they're creating these issues and convincing you that you care about them to polarize you against fellow Americans. Obama's gonna "tik ur guuuuns" right? Because liberals don't like guns? Bullshit. Of course there are liberals that don't believe in guns, but liberals on the whole split about evenly with the rest of America on the issue. It's a fabricated issue.

Why aren't teapartiers supportingthe OWS movement? Isn't the movement founded on the same frustration that got all those conservatives to load up on the Fox news busses? Oh wait! It's because OWS is against Wallstreet and Teapartiers are against Government! Bullshit. The citizens of America, in the course of serving their own corporate masters have been manipulated once again.

You give politicians too much credit. There is not vast conspiracy to sell out to corporations. Politicians are merely narcisists who are taken by the delusion that their own ideas are important enough to matter to the country. or their narcisists who believe they're own unique personal attributes make them qualified to lead other people. They're not driven a plan to sell out to corporations, they're driven by massive egos. And this is what makes them susecptible to corporations. Big money finds ytheir flaws and draws them out. Politicians succumb to whatever weekness drives them, money, power, sex altruism...big money can give you anything you want.

This is not a problem with liberalism, conservatism, politicians, corporations...this is an issue of human nature. How do you fix that?

If you figure out a way, please let the rest of us know. In the mean time, stop getting sucked into the argument that your corporate masters have duped you into. They know what drives you, they know your weaknesses...and they're playing you against your fellow americans the same way they play politicians against themselves.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^alien_concept:
Olberman should have given her a much better send off than that! She deserved a fucking standing ovation for how she put all that across.
@Yogi I think it's less that they're confused and threatened and more that they just do not give a fuck about true justice anymore. Because all of these permits and laws have been put in place cloak and dagger style right under our noses and there is very little any of us are going to be able to do about it. This was a long con and it's paying off nicely for them

I was reading about this dude Adrian Schoolcraft today. I had heard about his story but it's WAY worse than I thought it was. We should really be looking at our Police much more closely.


I heard Adrian Schoolcraft on NPR today.
http://videosift.com/video/NYPD-cop-records-evidence-of-quotas-Retaliation

>> ^alien_concept:

Olberman should have given her a much better send off than that! She deserved a fucking standing ovation for how she put all that across.
@Yogi I think it's less that they're confused and threatened and more that they just do not give a fuck about true justice anymore. Because all of these permits and laws have been put in place cloak and dagger style right under our noses and there is very little any of us are going to be able to do about it. This was a long con and it's paying off nicely for them


I was reading about this dude Adrian Schoolcraft today. I had heard about his story but it's WAY worse than I thought it was. We should really be looking at our Police much more closely.