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Where did you go, human?

Payback says...

I also end up something else when watching Chris Angel. Although, I usually end up being the guy switching to HBO a quarter of the way through. It's the ridiculous behaviour of the "completely unassociated public group" surrounding him.

BSR said:

Whenever I watch David Blaine, I'm the dog.

John Oliver - Mike Pence

newtboy says...

"saying humans are born with either a penis or vagina isn't a hateful statement against people."
It absolutely is hateful to hermaphrodites, clearly saying they aren't human. Use the qualifier "usually" or "almost always".

"As for gender being something different than sex, if you define it that way"
No, you said that. I'm saying all the physical attributes of gender are changeable besides the brain, and many humans with male gonads have female brains, and vice versa. Today, gonads can be surgically changed, so where is gender? I argue it's in the brain, which today can't be changed.
Gender is different from sexuality, clearly, no?
Edit: I guess I do think gender is different from "sex", if sex is determined solely by your gonads.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction
....as to who cares about gender....the bigoted bakers do. ;-)

We're talking perceived race, gender, sexuality, ethnic group, as identified by the discriminating individuals. They don't DNA scan or brain scan customers before serving (or denying) them, they react based on perception.

Skin color, that's totally changeable. Never heard of spray tans or bleach? Try watching Eddie Murphy's 'White like me'.

Odd you might argue against perception being the measure, since you seemed to argue that gays could be perceived as acceptably heterosexual by not acting on their uncontrollable urges and desires, bypassing the bigoted discrimination, essentially by lying.

Again it's about perceived ethnicity, not actual genetic heritage. Like you say, your actual heritage is unidentifiable by strangers, so less important to this discussion of public business discrimination.
If I want my wedding cake for me and Chris, and I wear my pink paisley silk shirt, leather chaps, choker, and heavy makeup to buy it that doesn't make me gay but the bigot baker would still deny me because he would assume I was.

John Oliver - Mike Pence

newtboy says...

Maybe...depends on their business. If they make other personalised inflammatory cakes, probably. If they make "hey man, nice shot" cakes celebrating cops being shot, definitely.

If they make personalised hate cakes, I would expect them to either pay a large fine for refusing or use the 'special' chocolate icing, and record the person ordering it for public exposure.

Most places have a no vulgarity, no hate speech, no sex rule applied across the board, which is fine....but you must use common definitions for those terms applied equally for everyone.
If "congratulations Pat and Chris" is ok for you if that's Patricia and Christian, you cannot decide it's not ok for Patrick and Christian, or Patricia and Christine, no matter how icky you find it, or how afraid you are that you'll lose control and kiss them.

Simple rule, if the reason for refusal is who the customer is, not what they want you to make, that's unacceptable.

bcglorf said:

So in keeping with that, if guys working at the police department that shot Stephon Clark go to a black baker and ask for a cake saying "Hey Man, nice shot!", it should be illegal for the baker to refuse?

newtboy (Member Profile)

Casually Explained: Men's Fashion

MilkmanDan says...

I follow comfcore with near-religious fervor. Quoth the prophet Andy Dwyer (Chris Pratt from Parks and Recreation): "Do I have to tuck my shirt in? Because, honestly, that's kind of a dealbreaker."

(as an aside, quite surprised I can't find a YouTube clip of that quote by itself)

Marvel Studio's Avengers: Infinity War Trailer

CelebrateApathy says...

Wha... What is the budget for this?
From Wikipedia:
Starring

Robert Downey Jr.
Josh Brolin
Mark Ruffalo
Tom Hiddleston
Chris Evans
Chris Hemsworth
Jeremy Renner
Chris Pratt
Elizabeth Olsen
Sebastian Stan
Benedict Cumberbatch
Paul Bettany
Cobie Smulders
Benedict Wong
Zoe Saldana
Karen Gillan
Vin Diesel
Dave Bautista
Bradley Cooper
Pom Klementieff
Scarlett Johansson
Benicio del Toro
Tom Holland
Anthony Mackie
Chadwick Boseman
Danai Gurira
Paul Rudd
Don Cheadle
Letitia Wright

Trump Is Under Spiritual Attack Because from Demons

draebor says...

A lot of people probably don't remember that this guy was convicted of fraud and conspiracy by a federal grand jury in 1989 and sentenced to 45 years in prison, not to mention the allegations of drugging and rape by Jessica Hahn. This is the man whom Jerry Falwell (another televangelist crook) called "the greatest scab and cancer on the face of Christianity in 2,000 years of church history."

And yet here he is today, sitting in his white satin throne surrounded by sycophants and fellow charlatans, peddling salvation from a fake apocalypse to the poor and gullible one $175 survival bucket at a time. Chris Hitchens was right... "you can get away with the most extraordinary offenses to morality and to truth in this country if you will just get yourself called 'reverend'."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGoQIAIb4-U

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Puddles Pity Party, Performs All By Myself .. AGT

"Trump has no desire and no capacity to lead the world'

Comey Testifies Under Oath That Trump Lied Repeatedly

bobknight33 says...

Boo hoo...

Comey best testimony is that Trump lied on why he was fired... Boo hoo..
Trump is Comey boss. he can be fired for any reason or for no reason. Grow up this is the same in any business.

The testimony also indicated that Trump IS NOT under investigation. Flynn was looked at but not as a primary target of the investigation.

Comey was one of the inside leakers. He leaked his own memo.


https://videosift.com/video/Chris-Matthews-Admits-Russia-Collusion-Narrative-Destroyed

Ad Attacking Comey Before He Testifies

bobknight33 says...

Boo hoo...

Comey best testimony is that Trump lied on why he was fired... Boo hoo..
Trump is Comey boss. he can be fired for any reason or for no reason. grow up this is the same in any business.

The testimony also indicated that Trump IS NOT under investigation. Flynn was looked at but not as a primary target of the investigation.

Comey was one of the inside leakers. He leaked his own memo.


https://videosift.com/video/Chris-Matthews-Admits-Russia-Collusion-Narrative-Destroyed

newtboy said:

Here's just a taste of why Trump needs Comey to be dismissed as a political hack and liar......

*related=https://videosift.com/video/Comey-Testifies-Under-Oath-That-Trump-Lied-Repeatedly

I'm certain this bit of his testimony will turn out to be one of the less damning bits of info about Trump's never ending lies and dictatorial style that will come out of today's hearings, but it is clearly indicative of how Trump operates....which is a mirror of how most dictators operate. Their guy is the best, most trustworthy, intelligent, and honorable person who could hold a position....until that person disagrees with the dictator in any tiny way, then suddenly they're liars, idiots, and traitors that should probably be put to death for treason.
How on earth do you not see it?

Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets | Final Trailer

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Agreed - Lucy was dreck. 5th Element was kind of trashy, but Bruce Willis, Gary Oldman and Chris Tucker made it great.

HenningKO said:

He disappointed me with Lucy, but Fifth Element is my favorite EVER, so... here's hoping... here's hyping.

And yes... I heard Coolio!



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