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Amazing New Japanese Hanabi Fireworks

newtboy says...

Lol.

Tell that to the makers of “a scanner darkly”.

This wasn’t a color corrected crop of a still photo, it was a complete change of a short film.

Technically any digital photo is cgi, but that’s a red herring…this was digitally altered video, a much higher bar.

If the term is so meaningless, why argue against it?

You exaggerate to the point of hyperbole, which indicates you know you’re wrong. This argument isn’t about any still image ever digitized, it’s about a video digitally altered so much that it no longer resembles the original. Just because it’s a simple process doesn’t change that it’s an image generated by a computer.

kir_mokum said:

HA!

this img wasn't generated by a computer. altered [slightly], yes, but filters ≠ CGI. blurring an img, using a blue filter, or cropping an image does not make it "CGI". you can argue the semantics of if it being "generated" by a computer, but arguing it is means all digital photos, images, hell even text of any kind are "CGI". "CGI" is already a stupid, near meaningless term and pushing the definition to "any image that appears or had appeared on a computer in any way" makes it even less useful. [generally VFX/visual effects is the umbrella term people are looking for. CG is the term if they're referring to rendered assets. this is neither. this poor use of language is a huge pet peeve for me.]

imma ignore the "art" argument because that is regularly a black hole of silly and i don't feel the need to engage that but those painted potatoes more effort than this.

Amazing New Japanese Hanabi Fireworks

kir_mokum says...

HA!

this img wasn't generated by a computer. altered [slightly], yes, but filters ≠ CGI. blurring an img, using a blue filter, or cropping an image does not make it "CGI". you can argue the semantics of if it being "generated" by a computer, but arguing it is means all digital photos, images, hell even text of any kind are "CGI". "CGI" is already a stupid, near meaningless term and pushing the definition to "any image that appears or had appeared on a computer in any way" makes it even less useful. [generally VFX/visual effects is the umbrella term people are looking for. CG is the term if they're referring to rendered assets. this is neither. this poor use of language is a huge pet peeve for me.]

imma ignore the "art" argument because that is regularly a black hole of silly and i don't feel the need to engage that but those painted potatoes more effort than this.

newtboy said:

I respect your right to be wrong if you wish. 😉

An image generated by a computer is CGI, it doesn’t have to be Avatar to qualify.
Art is art, whether you like and respect it or not. It doesn’t have to be good to be art.
People in England are painting potatoes, inserting some painted nails, and calling it potato art. This took more effort to make than that does, but they are still art just as much as a 3 year old’s drawing or a fresco by Michelangelo is.

Amazing New Japanese Hanabi Fireworks

newtboy says...

I respect your right to be wrong if you wish. 😉

An image generated by a computer is CGI, it doesn’t have to be Avatar to qualify.
Art is art, whether you like and respect it or not. It doesn’t have to be good to be art.
People in England are painting potatoes, inserting some painted nails, and calling it potato art. This took more effort to make than that does, but they are still art just as much as a 3 year old’s drawing or a fresco by Michelangelo is.

kir_mokum said:

you're stretching the terms "CGI" and "art" to their absolute conceptual limits and i respectfully disagree with your use of both. duchamp did more to create "the fountain" than what went into this video.

Amazing New Japanese Hanabi Fireworks

kir_mokum says...

you're stretching the terms "CGI" and "art" to their absolute conceptual limits and i respectfully disagree with your use of both. duchamp did more to create "the fountain" than what went into this video.

newtboy said:

Ok, maybe slightly, but certainly not as it was presented here.

Even a static filter is CGI…it’s a computer (phone) filter generating an image.

Why? Art.
Why would Van Gogh paint swirling stars in “starry night”?
Why would Cyriak dismember a million digital sheep to reform them into nightmare creatures?

Amazing New Japanese Hanabi Fireworks

newtboy says...

Ok, maybe slightly, but certainly not as it was presented here.

Even a static filter is CGI…it’s a computer (phone) filter generating an image. It’s exactly what I think of when I think of “effects” for digital photography or videos….what does it mean to you? Since it’s “computer” drawn moving images, it’s animation, no?

Why? Art.
Why would Van Gogh paint swirling stars in “starry night”?
Why would Cyriak dismember a million digital sheep to reform them into nightmare creatures?

kir_mokum said:

the original title is misleading and this isn't "CGI" or "FX" or animation in any meaningful way. it's a static filter. all that adds up to a very strange thing to post. i'm just confused why anyone would make this.

Amazing New Japanese Hanabi Fireworks

kir_mokum says...

the original title is misleading and this isn't "CGI" or "FX" or animation in any meaningful way. it's a static filter. all that adds up to a very strange thing to post. i'm just confused why anyone would make this.

newtboy said:

Hmmmm….

The tags are “cgi” and “fx”. Channels include animation.

Also, do you really think they had kaiju rides?

I thought I was pretty clear this wasn’t real.

As to the point…I thought it was pretty.

Amazing New Japanese Hanabi Fireworks

newtboy says...

Hmmmm….

The tags are “cgi” and “fx”. Channels include animation.

Also, do you really think they had kaiju rides?

I thought I was pretty clear this wasn’t real.

As to the point…I thought it was pretty.

kir_mokum said:

it isn't anything except a bad attempt at misleading people.

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newtboy says...

You are not alone. I kept wondering if this was for a video game, the cgi looked terrible on a small screen.

I member Avatar.

mram said:

I feel like I'm the only one who was unimpressed by this.

No story, no hook, no engagement, no emotional resonance, just a NVIDIA/AMD demo reel of graphics.

I did like the first movie. I love all of JC's movies. I still have incredibly high hopes. But just being honest, this played so slow and cold for me. In fact when I watched it the very first time I wasn't sure if this was recap from the first movie or something new.

They are obviously taking the slow burn approach to marketing here... like "hey, memberberries Avatar?"

I am anxiously awaiting something that gives me that "whoa" moment.

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moonsammy says...

I am extremely dubious about this being something other than CGI. The ball just moves too smoothly between the two, they don't seem to ever make any course corrections to intercept it. Perhaps on a perfectly windless day an AI could control the drones well enough to look like this, but two human operators? I'm skeptical. No info on the YT page.

BSR, do you know anything about where this came from?

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