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Calvin & Hobbes - Art before Commerce

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Calvin & Hobbes - Art before Commerce

MilkmanDan says...

@Zawash -- all true. And yet, just because Calvin and Hobbes and Bill Watterson are/were awesome, it doesn't make IP and copyright rules any more sensible.

My opinion: those respectful and well-done parodies and homages (say, Pants are Overrated's Hobbes and Bacon) are fair use. The person/people that drew Calvin peeing on things? Fair use also. There is a big difference between "tasteless" and "should be illegal".

Selling car decals with those images is different, because then you're treading all over the "not for profit" element of fair use. However, tracking down tons of small-scale infringers on that, or even worse, average people who simply buy the decals/shirts/whatever and likely don't know or care to know about IP and copyright laws is ... a losing battle at best, and punitive towards *fans* of the IP at worst.

There are many many examples of going to idiotic (IMO) lengths to protect IP. Disney suing local bakeries for drawing some character in icing on top of a kids birthday cake. Metallica suing Napster, University internet hosts, and even individual downloaders of their music. Teachers being sued for playing a clip of a TV show, movie, or song as part of their lessons. Etc. etc.

At some level, copyright is a good thing. Or at least a necessary evil. But the litigious zeal with which IP and copyright are "protected" these days seems like we've lost sight of the "art before commerce" element that is a huge part of why Calvin and Hobbes was so awesome. And why IP is something worth protecting (within sensible limits).

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Calvin & Hobbes - Art before Commerce

Zawash says...

ALL depictions of Calvin & Hobbes, barring the comic itself and the comic binders from Norway, are knockoffs and stolen IP. All stickers, t-shirts, posters, sweaters, shorts, lunchboxes and whatever is non-licenced stolen IP.
There's the comic itself, plus the sole footnote of the Norwegian comic binders.
As for the peeing sticker: https://triviahappy.com/articles/the-tasteless-history-of-the-peeing-calvin-decal
The interesting part is of course that even the nice looking, respectful stuff are unlicensed knockoffs.

newtboy said:

What about all the window stickers with Calvin pissing on (X)? Were ALL of those knockoffs and stolen IP? If so...wow. They mentioned that they're awful, but are they also rip-offs?

Calvin & Hobbes - Art before Commerce

newtboy says...

What about all the window stickers with Calvin pissing on (X)? Were ALL of those knockoffs and stolen IP? If so...wow. They mentioned that they're awful, but are they also rip-offs?

Zawash said:

The only official Calvin and Hobbes merchandise item ever made was sold in Norway, branded under the Norwegian name Tommy & Tigern (Tommy and the Tiger) - a binder for the monthly localized Calvin & Hobbes comic. I got most of the issues.
You can see several of the binders on a table here: http://m.finn.no/bap/forsale/gallery.html?finnkode=69073070#image1

Calvin & Hobbes - Art before Commerce

Zawash says...

The only official Calvin and Hobbes merchandise item ever made was sold in Norway, branded under the Norwegian name Tommy & Tigern (Tommy and the Tiger) - a binder for the monthly localized Calvin & Hobbes comic. I got most of the issues.
You can see several of the binders on a table here: http://m.finn.no/bap/forsale/gallery.html?finnkode=69073070#image1

Phooz said:

I never even thought about the fact that there is no super commercialization of Calvin and Hobbes; now I love Watterson and his characters even more!

Calvin & Hobbes - Art before Commerce

Phooz says...

I never even thought about the fact that there is no super commercialization of Calvin and Hobbes; now I love Watterson and his characters even more!

Calvin & Hobbes - Art before Commerce

Calvin & Hobbes - Art before Commerce

Zawash (Member Profile)

Calvin & Hobbes - Art before Commerce

kingmob says...

Calvin and Hobbes was the first thing my kid read on their own and got sucked into. There is a great odumentary on watterson that used to be on the netflix.

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