"Make a woman get a breast exam" Make? =)

I'm going to *promote this, as it really is as important that men do this as women do breast exams.

That, and I like how they did not show that guy's penis after she handled him, I suspect he was not flaccid... I know I'd find it damn hard (tee hee) to stay un-aroused with her doing that, especially dressed like that.

I was just looking up some of those numbers, and that is about spot on, about 2.7% to abortions and
nearly all other services are just sexual system related...not that I ever supposed that they were a huge abortions machine. And while even if those numbers are 5 or so percent off, it doesn't really matter to the person who is apposed to abortions all together. It would be akin to a husband saying to his wife, of all the women I have met, I didn't cheat on you with 98% of them...it is that small percent that matters when morality is concerned. Certainly, though, as far as a health organisation goes, I have nothing against PP.

Personally, I think you should use the logic that war is murder, and you are against murder in an effort to diswage your congressman against acts of war. I would tend to agree with this position, most of the wars haven't really been fought to save ourselves from torment as of late, more like cause torment. It doesn't have to be "cover" if it is true. And this truth is completely subjective, hard to test the legitimacy of peoples claims beyond face value...it's all so damned tangled in personal backgrounds.

I think you are being rather disingenuous as the the totality of church go'ers on donations. While I know fire and brimstone churches exists, I have had the pleasure of not ever attending one, ever. I am no longer a Christian myself, but when I was, I gave out of the compassion that I knew it was going to be used for something good, instead of a cheeseburger for myself. That raised up in me a charitable heart in myself furthering my commitments to those in need. I was fortunate enough to be able to support the blood and fire food hand outs, the Sam's battered women shelter, and several others. Giving is a mindset more than a command. And in that, goodness is only going to success if we take an active role in it. A fraction of our taxes will never be enough. Giving has to be a lifestyle, it won't work otherwise.



>> ^peggedbea:

except that 97% of the services pp offers are not abortion services. the idea that pp is some massive abortion franchise is pure myth. its main function is to provide low cost birth control, breast exams, pap smears, std tests and education. i don't know the people who think those things are murder.
furthermore, i'm down right against war and an aggressive foreign policy and believe these things to be murder but no one is defunding any of that and using my moral outrage as cover.
also, churches use fear and religious devotion and obligatory methods to secure their funding. it's called tithing and it was ordered by god in the bible somewhere, you can't compare the funding of other organizations to churches. god didn't mandate you to give 10% of your income to fund various social causes, unfortunately.
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^gwiz665:
500 % of $2000 isn't much compared to the millions the government provides either.

Private donations account for 1/4 of operating revenue. Government spending is was/is 1/3ed. (all according to wiki). Which means that private donations accounted for 370% more than government spending would of accounted for, up from government spending 120% more than private donations prior. >> ^peggedbea:
do you think the surge has more to do with the highly publicized nature of the threat to defund them?
what do you think would happen to organizations that aren't in the news constantly?

Publicity and people who care account for the spending surge no doubt. I would imagine the total spending will drop to levels lower than they were previously in time. But I don't mind this so much, I am pro choice mind you, but to FORCE someone to pay for something they down right believe is murder is pretty outrageous. It will be up to those who truly believe in the cause to take up financial arms, as it should be. There are organisations that aren't publicized via media and do very well for themselves and sponcers...like every church in america.
This funding change also may force PP to be more dithered and less national, which might force it to be less monolithic and more regional in its ways and policies. This could bring both good and bad, only time will tell.

except that 97% of the services pp offers are not abortion services. the idea that pp is some massive abortion franchise is pure myth. its main function is to provide low cost birth control, breast exams, pap smears, std tests and education. i don't know the people who think those things are murder.

furthermore, i'm down right against war and an aggressive foreign policy and believe these things to be murder but no one is defunding any of that and using my moral outrage as cover.

also, churches use fear and religious devotion and obligatory methods to secure their funding. it's called tithing and it was ordered by god in the bible somewhere, you can't compare the funding of other organizations to churches. god didn't mandate you to give 10% of your income to fund various social causes, unfortunately.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

>> ^gwiz665:
500 % of $2000 isn't much compared to the millions the government provides either.

Private donations account for 1/4 of operating revenue. Government spending is was/is 1/3ed. (all according to wiki). Which means that private donations accounted for 370% more than government spending would of accounted for, up from government spending 120% more than private donations prior. >> ^peggedbea:
do you think the surge has more to do with the highly publicized nature of the threat to defund them?
what do you think would happen to organizations that aren't in the news constantly?

Publicity and people who care account for the spending surge no doubt. I would imagine the total spending will drop to levels lower than they were previously in time. But I don't mind this so much, I am pro choice mind you, but to FORCE someone to pay for something they down right believe is murder is pretty outrageous. It will be up to those who truly believe in the cause to take up financial arms, as it should be. There are organisations that aren't publicized via media and do very well for themselves and sponcers...like every church in america.
This funding change also may force PP to be more dithered and less national, which might force it to be less monolithic and more regional in its ways and policies. This could bring both good and bad, only time will tell.

...Not so much on the crossing the street though. I think God likes the devoted and those that, you know, follow his wishes but most religious texts say he doesn't appreciate someone throwing away "his gift of life".

It's so insane though that very few people will take it that far, thankfully. It gives me hope when a religious nut gets cancer treatment, there's obviously some basic logical desire not to die left in them.>> ^rottenseed:

I guess you have a point. At least he's not being a hypocrite and praising his god's decisions then going to the hospital to try and defy natural conditions. Kudos to him for being a dedicated nutjob.>> ^LarsaruS:
I think he is a complete nutjob but he does have one point for the "true-believers" out there. God chooses when you die so you should not use science to avoid and or detect dangers that could kill you. Similarly you should not look in both directions before crossing a street as you are then messing with the Grand Plan... If you get hit by a bus and die it is because god willed it.

I guess you have a point. At least he's not being a hypocrite and praising his god's decisions then going to the hospital to try and defy natural conditions. Kudos to him for being a dedicated nutjob.>> ^LarsaruS:

I think he is a complete nutjob but he does have one point for the "true-believers" out there. God chooses when you die so you should not use science to avoid and or detect dangers that could kill you. Similarly you should not look in both directions before crossing a street as you are then messing with the Grand Plan... If you get hit by a bus and die it is because god willed it.

I'm flattered. Thank you. You made my week.

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>> ^rougy:
"Health care is socialized medicine."
That is where the right-wing always kicks our ass, because they know how to label things with deceptive words.
Insurance is not medicine, be it socialized, privatized or other.
Health insurers are just middle-men skimming money off the top.
There is no real value in anything that they do.
They can't set a broken leg. Can't administer chemo. Can't give a breast exam. Can't discover a cure for anything.
They can't even perform a prostate exam, though they'll make you feel as if they had.
All they do is take your money--a lot of it--and if you're lucky they'll give you most of it back when you need it.
In the mean time, they use your money for investments with the sole purpose of enriching themselves.


just quoting this because this excellent post deserves it

>> ^rougy:
"Health care is socialized medicine."
That is where the right-wing always kicks our ass, because they know how to label things with deceptive words.
Insurance is not medicine, be it socialized, privatized or other.
Health insurers are just middle-men skimming money off the top.
There is no real value in anything that they do.
They can't set a broken leg. Can't administer chemo. Can't give a breast exam. Can't discover a cure for anything.
They can't even perform a prostate exam, though they'll make you feel as if they had.
All they do is take your money--a lot of it--and if you're lucky they'll give you most of it back when you need it.
In the mean time, they use your money for investments with the sole purpose of enriching themselves.


just quoting this because this excellent post deserves it

"Health care is socialized medicine."

That is where the right-wing always kicks our ass, because they know how to label things with deceptive words.

Insurance is not medicine, be it socialized, privatized or other.

Health insurers are just middle-men skimming money off the top.

There is no real value in anything that they do.

They can't set a broken leg. Can't administer chemo. Can't give a breast exam. Can't discover a cure for anything.

They can't even perform a prostate exam, though they'll make you feel as if they had.

All they do is take your money--a lot of it--and if you're lucky they'll give you most of it back when you need it.

In the mean time, they use your money for investments with the sole purpose of enriching themselves.

too many talking heads, not enough breast exams

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I'm very attentive to breast exams.. to the point where it gets me in trouble.

OK. They convinced me. I'm going to start offering free breast exams.

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