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This is also one of my favourites, and that wicked fan-made animation! Anyway, shameless whore voting http://videosift.com/video/Karl-Pilkington-The-Medical-and-Boyz-Magazine (it's worth it ) and *doublepromote

Wow, that flamer has some decent range, and decent kick by the look of it. Let's see how long it is before FPS Russia is double-wielding these bad boyz.

>> ^ghark:

>> ^kceaton1:
>> ^ghark:
man that description is a bunch of nonsense, they are still the same band they just softened up their music and used heaps of slo-mo in the video.

Haters got to hate.
This is also the most mellow song on the album. I can agree with a lot of what you said. In fact I initially a few songs of LPs when they came out. Then I hated them by their second album and I still can only listen to remixes of a few songs; the rest feel like I'm getting an ear infection drilled into place. The albums to me are far "pop" aimed and were a complete teenage angst phase type music, in my music listening experience (it also explains their initial fan base. But, they're getting older and their tastes as well as their music will change). They were very young when they started. I know that from when I was twenty to know that my music (hell, everything) dramatically shifted.
I used to be an old school rap enthusiast and now I'm more of a Tool--metal/rock/progressive rock fan (like The Mars Volta, Lacuna Coil, Boston, The Beatles, Dream Theater, Soilwork, and Opeth--and on occasion I listen to Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog, The College Boyz, Cypress Hill, Icecube, and Eminem--who happens to be the only current rapper I musically like, Kanye West is O.K., but his personality tries my ability to like those songs, harshly.
Look at the video below that comes up at the bottom of this video(Linkin Park: Waiting For The End). See if that has any different value to you. Hopefully, it's listed below or you'll have to find it (I doubt you will look for it though, as it sounds like you hated them the day they came out and never gave them a second chance, especially since you took time out of your day to post your hate; I rarely do the same either, as bands do accrue a "reputation", like Nickelback--who I hate fiercely). It has much more impressive visuals than this slow-motion video, but shows "a bit" of their differences on the album. That's as far as I go in defending their NEW album; but you're free to go ahead and hate.
I doubt you've heard the album at all (the full thing not just the radio elements). As I'd guess you'd have slightly more meat to your hate, or a full opinion. In other words, you hate them for a lot of the reasons I hated them; also due to the fact that it was popular to do so.
This album is episodic; each part starting from the last, which just from that perspective, is a more traditional album and not like LP in the past. That is their main evolution. I should have been more specific that they seem to be -slowly- taking a more rock'n'roll/progressive approach to newer stuff. That's the biggest change. There sound has matured slightly. Mostly the hip-hop/rap styles/styling and the biggest change is in their synthetic/midi board use. Anyway, don't think I'm giving them the easy way out and complete, unflinching support, that has yet to be earned. Maybe in two more albums--if they continue in the same direction...
small edit- I hope I don't sound to harsh talking about you opinion, as I only wanted to make my viewpoint clear. I also changed various areas in my description that I think created your hate to "overflow". I meant evolution in only the most modest of terms, they are still very much a band that needs to change. But, they are taking some of those steps and I commend them for it. Most bands stagnate and rely only on what they know. Again, if you don't think they've evolved their sound I don't think you've given them a fair chance (not that you have to; just don't post your opinion and expect it to be left alone).

I'm not hating on the music, I really like Linkin Park, I'm just stating that I think your description of the music is taking things too far, adding lots of slow motion shots and screaming less is not growing up. Their new music is a bit knee jerk imo, they copped a lot of criticism and they are trying to overcompensate to please people, instead they should follow their own path, and personally I do not believe that they are doing this. So I guess that is where our opinions differ.


Alright, I see where you're coming from. We can agree to disagree; I think your point is very valid, as their music could have gone in a thousand different directions. I happen to like this direction and you don't; I can deal with that. It was more the attack on the description that irked me. But, I don't blame you as after re-reading it, it comes off as a "you-should-have-this-point-of-view". I appreciate your feedback. I hope you do as well. I like what they've become (I haven't paid much attention to them in the past to be honest, so if their hand "musically" was a forced issue--I'd be on your side most likely).

I'm an artist, drawing wise, and if someone was hating on my artistry I wouldn't change it for them no matter what. As I do it for myself and to express myself how I want. If you sell that out, I'd have to say that you've lost any credibility you had (and if LP did that; it makes me think less of them now). But, more importantly you lose your "heart", which you need badly in any art. You lose that aspect and you'll grow to hate yourself (the downward spiral so to speak).

>> ^kceaton1:

>> ^ghark:
man that description is a bunch of nonsense, they are still the same band they just softened up their music and used heaps of slo-mo in the video.

Haters got to hate.
This is also the most mellow song on the album. I can agree with a lot of what you said. In fact I initially a few songs of LPs when they came out. Then I hated them by their second album and I still can only listen to remixes of a few songs; the rest feel like I'm getting an ear infection drilled into place. The albums to me are far "pop" aimed and were a complete teenage angst phase type music, in my music listening experience (it also explains their initial fan base. But, they're getting older and their tastes as well as their music will change). They were very young when they started. I know that from when I was twenty to know that my music (hell, everything) dramatically shifted.
I used to be an old school rap enthusiast and now I'm more of a Tool--metal/rock/progressive rock fan (like The Mars Volta, Lacuna Coil, Boston, The Beatles, Dream Theater, Soilwork, and Opeth--and on occasion I listen to Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog, The College Boyz, Cypress Hill, Icecube, and Eminem--who happens to be the only current rapper I musically like, Kanye West is O.K., but his personality tries my ability to like those songs, harshly.
Look at the video below that comes up at the bottom of this video(Linkin Park: Waiting For The End). See if that has any different value to you. Hopefully, it's listed below or you'll have to find it (I doubt you will look for it though, as it sounds like you hated them the day they came out and never gave them a second chance, especially since you took time out of your day to post your hate; I rarely do the same either, as bands do accrue a "reputation", like Nickelback--who I hate fiercely). It has much more impressive visuals than this slow-motion video, but shows "a bit" of their differences on the album. That's as far as I go in defending their NEW album; but you're free to go ahead and hate.
I doubt you've heard the album at all (the full thing not just the radio elements). As I'd guess you'd have slightly more meat to your hate, or a full opinion. In other words, you hate them for a lot of the reasons I hated them; also due to the fact that it was popular to do so.
This album is episodic; each part starting from the last, which just from that perspective, is a more traditional album and not like LP in the past. That is their main evolution. I should have been more specific that they seem to be -slowly- taking a more rock'n'roll/progressive approach to newer stuff. That's the biggest change. There sound has matured slightly. Mostly the hip-hop/rap styles/styling and the biggest change is in their synthetic/midi board use. Anyway, don't think I'm giving them the easy way out and complete, unflinching support, that has yet to be earned. Maybe in two more albums--if they continue in the same direction...
small edit- I hope I don't sound to harsh talking about you opinion, as I only wanted to make my viewpoint clear. I also changed various areas in my description that I think created your hate to "overflow". I meant evolution in only the most modest of terms, they are still very much a band that needs to change. But, they are taking some of those steps and I commend them for it. Most bands stagnate and rely only on what they know. Again, if you don't think they've evolved their sound I don't think you've given them a fair chance (not that you have to; just don't post your opinion and expect it to be left alone).


I'm not hating on the music, I really like Linkin Park, I'm just stating that I think your description of the music is taking things too far, adding lots of slow motion shots and screaming less is not growing up. Their new music is a bit knee jerk imo, they copped a lot of criticism and they are trying to overcompensate to please people, instead they should follow their own path, and personally I do not believe that they are doing this. So I guess that is where our opinions differ.

>> ^ghark:

man that description is a bunch of nonsense, they are still the same band they just softened up their music and used heaps of slo-mo in the video.

Haters got to hate.


This is also the most mellow song on the album. I can agree with a lot of what you said. In fact I initially a few songs of LPs when they came out. Then I hated them by their second album and I still can only listen to remixes of a few songs; the rest feel like I'm getting an ear infection drilled into place. The albums to me are far "pop" aimed and were a complete teenage angst phase type music, in my music listening experience (it also explains their initial fan base. But, they're getting older and their tastes as well as their music will change). They were very young when they started. I know that from when I was twenty to know that my music (hell, everything) dramatically shifted.

I used to be an old school rap enthusiast and now I'm more of a Tool--metal/rock/progressive rock fan (like The Mars Volta, Lacuna Coil, Boston, The Beatles, Dream Theater, Soilwork, and Opeth--and on occasion I listen to Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog, The College Boyz, Cypress Hill, Icecube, and Eminem--who happens to be the only current rapper I musically like, Kanye West is O.K., but his personality tries my ability to like those songs, harshly.

Look at the video below that comes up at the bottom of this video(Linkin Park: Waiting For The End). See if that has any different value to you. Hopefully, it's listed below or you'll have to find it (I doubt you will look for it though, as it sounds like you hated them the day they came out and never gave them a second chance, especially since you took time out of your day to post your hate; I rarely do the same either, as bands do accrue a "reputation", like Nickelback--who I hate fiercely). It has much more impressive visuals than this slow-motion video, but shows "a bit" of their differences on the album. That's as far as I go in defending their NEW album; but you're free to go ahead and hate.

I doubt you've heard the album at all (the full thing not just the radio elements). As I'd guess you'd have slightly more meat to your hate, or a full opinion. In other words, you hate them for a lot of the reasons I hated them; also due to the fact that it was popular to do so.

This album is episodic; each part starting from the last, which just from that perspective, is a more traditional album and not like LP in the past. That is their main evolution. I should have been more specific that they seem to be -slowly- taking a more rock'n'roll/progressive approach to newer stuff. That's the biggest change. There sound has matured slightly. Mostly the hip-hop/rap styles/styling and the biggest change is in their synthetic/midi board use. Anyway, don't think I'm giving them the easy way out and complete, unflinching support, that has yet to be earned. Maybe in two more albums--if they continue in the same direction...

small edit- I hope I don't sound to harsh talking about you opinion, as I only wanted to make my viewpoint clear. I also changed various areas in my description that I think created your hate to "overflow". I meant evolution in only the most modest of terms, they are still very much a band that needs to change. But, they are taking some of those steps and I commend them for it. Most bands stagnate and rely only on what they know. Again, if you don't think they've evolved their sound I don't think you've given them a fair chance (not that you have to; just don't post your opinion and expect it to be left alone).

Well, I hope things are going well. Keep your chin up, etc.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
No, I'm just kidding. Nothing a middle-aged man can't handle.



In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Something happen? D:

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
I'm alright, all things considered - that I live in hell.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks man, I'm finally finding time and energy to attempt at a few sifts every now and then. Just got a kitten, so that's got me a little busy and entertained, but work isn't as busy (double-edged sword, that), so I have a bit of free time once again, lol. How have you been doing?

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
It's always good to see old friends back in town, know what I mean?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Oh yar what is this I don't even...



P.S. the new picture on your profile is awesome.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
*promote the JAPR fest!

No, I'm just kidding. Nothing a middle-aged man can't handle.



In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Something happen? D:

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
I'm alright, all things considered - that I live in hell.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks man, I'm finally finding time and energy to attempt at a few sifts every now and then. Just got a kitten, so that's got me a little busy and entertained, but work isn't as busy (double-edged sword, that), so I have a bit of free time once again, lol. How have you been doing?

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
It's always good to see old friends back in town, know what I mean?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Oh yar what is this I don't even...



P.S. the new picture on your profile is awesome.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
*promote the JAPR fest!

Something happen? D:

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
I'm alright, all things considered - that I live in hell.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks man, I'm finally finding time and energy to attempt at a few sifts every now and then. Just got a kitten, so that's got me a little busy and entertained, but work isn't as busy (double-edged sword, that), so I have a bit of free time once again, lol. How have you been doing?

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
It's always good to see old friends back in town, know what I mean?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Oh yar what is this I don't even...



P.S. the new picture on your profile is awesome.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
*promote the JAPR fest!

I'm alright, all things considered - that I live in hell.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks man, I'm finally finding time and energy to attempt at a few sifts every now and then. Just got a kitten, so that's got me a little busy and entertained, but work isn't as busy (double-edged sword, that), so I have a bit of free time once again, lol. How have you been doing?

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
It's always good to see old friends back in town, know what I mean?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Oh yar what is this I don't even...



P.S. the new picture on your profile is awesome.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
*promote the JAPR fest!

Thanks man, I'm finally finding time and energy to attempt at a few sifts every now and then. Just got a kitten, so that's got me a little busy and entertained, but work isn't as busy (double-edged sword, that), so I have a bit of free time once again, lol. How have you been doing?

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
It's always good to see old friends back in town, know what I mean?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Oh yar what is this I don't even...



P.S. the new picture on your profile is awesome.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
*promote the JAPR fest!

It's always good to see old friends back in town, know what I mean?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Oh yar what is this I don't even...



P.S. the new picture on your profile is awesome.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
*promote the JAPR fest!

Oh yar what is this I don't even...



P.S. the new picture on your profile is awesome.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
*promote the JAPR fest!

1. Journey - Good Morning Girl

2. The Cure - Disintegration
Stopped to listen to this one all the way through, even though I usually just write down the track name and skip on with these things.

3. Talking Heads - Girls Want to Be with the Girls
Haha, had to listen to this one too.

4. the pillows - Beehive
Live version ripped from the bonus DVD of their latest live concert release, Blue Song With Blue Poppies. They actually stopped in the middle of the song because Sawao forgot the lyrics, then started fresh and rocked it really hard. Wish I could have seen this show.

5. ELLEGARDEN - Surfrider Association
Opening track from BRING YOUR OWN BOARD!! Love these guys. They sound like typical pop punk at a quick listen sometimes, but if you actually give a whole album a chance, you realize that they're fantastic musicians and a huge cut above the drudge that fills up their genre.

6. Pavement - Elevate Me Later
I actually haven't ever paid attention to this track before, but I really love the intro.

7. Ling Tosite Sigure - 鮮やかな殺人 (The Vivid Murderer)
Self-produced demo take, hell fucking yes. Raging, screeching Telecaster guitar solo, rumbling bass lines, and a huge range of dynamics.

8. ART-SCHOOL - LOST IN THE AIR (Tony Doogan mix)
Fan-fucking-tastic song. This mix has more presence to the bass guitar than the original, which creates for a much more atmospheric song. I like very much.

9. GING NANG BOYZ - 駆け抜けて性春 (The Youth Running Past)
God I love this song. Crazy but catchy Japanese punk rock. They record all of their instruments at one go in the studio rather than layering it instrument by instrument, giving a raw, live sound to all their recordings. I wish all rock musicians did this.

10. People in the Box - Paper Trip
Great song, off my favorite album by them.