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PFAS: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

newtboy says...

Nonsense. Pre industrial agriculture wasn’t very damaging in most cases…and when it was it was on a minuscule scale compared to industrial agriculture.
Pre industrial building wasn’t excessively environmentally damaging in most cases, certainly not to the point where it endangered the planet or it’s atmosphere.

It's utterly ridiculous hyperbole to say we have to be cavemen to not destroy our environment. We don't even have to revert to pre industrial methods, we just have to be responsible with our actions and lower the population massively. With minor exceptions, pre industrial farming caused little to no permanent damage, and it was almost all easily repairable damage. (With a few exceptions like Rapa Nui that may not have been over farming but cultural damage, we aren't exactly certain what happened there).

I eat berries now, don't you? I grow raspberries, blackberries, black raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, and Tay berries myself. People would be healthier if they ate berries, and they're tasty too. What?!

Yes, around 7 billion need to die (without procreating first). Better than all 9 billion.

There’s a huge difference between being occasionally deadly and so insanely toxic we destroy our own planet in under 200 years to the point where our own existence is seriously threatened.
Edit: toxicity levels matter as much as exposure levels. Cavemen impacted their environment at levels well below sustainability (mostly….the idea they killed the mammoths or mastodons off by hunting is, I believe, a myth….natural environmental changes seem much more likely to be the major influence in their extinction.). Per capita, modern humans have a much larger, more detrimental footprint than premodern humans, exponentially larger….and there’s like a hundred thousand times as many of us (or more) too. We need to reverse both those trends drastically if we are to survive long term.

Yes, progress includes risk, but risk can be managed, minimized, and not taken when it’s a risk of total destruction. We totally ignore risk if there’s profit involved.

This is a night time comedy show, not a science class. I think you expect WAY too much. It points out that there is a problem, it doesn’t have the time, or the audience to delve into the intricate chemical processes involved in the manufacture, use, and disposal of them. It touched on them, and more importantly pointed out how they’ve been flushed into the environment Willy nilly by almost everyone who manufacturers with them.

vil said:

By that logic, Newt, its back to caves and eating berries for everyone. And 7 billion people need to die to make planet Earth sustainable.

Everything civilization does is toxic in some way. Even living in caves was deadly, ask the Mammoths.

I like how youre taking everything responsibly but in this case you might be lumping too many things into one problem. If we strive for any progress at all we have to take risks.

Maybe the consensus will be that we cant handle the production problems and need to ban the poly stuff, but this video was not the compelling analysis that would even push me in that direction.

Definition of "cool as a cucumber"

SFOGuy says...

Blueberries for Sal in real life!

I thought the National Park Ranger approved thing to do was turn, make yourself as big as possible, waving your hands and flaring out your jacket (Dad? Dad, can you put the phone down and help me here?)---and then make some noise---but not to back down or turn your back.

However: not actually an outdoorsman.

Anyone?

C-note (Member Profile)

Tortoise thinks it's a dog.

Religious Fanatic Vs. Pizza God at UCF

newtboy says...

Cheesus Saves!!!!
*doublepromote spreading the good word.
I noticed the blueberry God lurking in the background waiting her turn.
This should happen every time a street preacher starts spouting off about hell in public. I mean...Cheesus Crust, they're annoying. Great to see one shouted down by personified pizza. (Sorry, I mean deified pizza).

You Suck at Cooking - How to Find Food in the Wild

Tommy Chong's "Lincoln Advertisement"

Life As A Rare Fruit Collector

newtboy says...

Never heard of them, what are they? A mango cross, or something completely different?
I'm trying honeyberries this year, some kind of honeysuckle with a blueberry like fruit. I love weird fruits.

StukaFox said:

I wonder if he's been able to grow Mangosteens in his garden. I've always wanted to try one.

Jimmy Kimmel's Update on the Anti-Vaccination Discussion

My_design jokingly says...

WAIT A MINUTE! WTF! Pancakes make you GAY!
Well hell I need to update my fashion sense because I love me some pancakes. Since I like them with Blueberries does that make me more gay? My wife is in for a big surprise tonight!

WTF vs. Pole Dancing

Obama Fire Sale

STORYBOARD: The Fine Art of Coffee Portraiture

Pro eater Jamie McDonald eats Denny's Hobbit menu in 20 mins

Hybrid says...

Hobbit Hole Breakfast: Two eggs fried right into the center of grilled Cheddar bun halves. Served with two strips of bacon and crispy hash browns topped with melted shredded Cheddar cheese and bacon.

Shire Sausage Skillet: Shire sausage with seasoned red-skinned potatoes, sautéed mushrooms and fire-roasted peppers and onions served on a sizzling skillet. Topped with shredded Cheddar cheese and two eggs.

Frodo's Pot Roast Skillet: Slow-cooked pot roast, herb-roasted carrots, celery, mushrooms and onions over broccoli and seasoned red-skinned potatoes served on a hot sizzling skillet. Topped with shredded Cheddar cheese and served with dinner bread.

The Ring Burger: A hand-pressed burger topped with Pepper Jack cheese, bacon, sautéed mushrooms and mayo on a grilled Cheddar cheese bun. Crowned with three crispy onion rings and served with lettuce, tomato, red onions, pickles and a side of wavy-cut French fries.

Gandalf's Gobble Melt: Tender sliced turkey breast and savory stuffing topped with melted Swiss cheese placed on grilled potato bread with a cranberry honey mustard spread. Served with your choice of side and gravy for dipping.

Dwarves' Turkey & Dressing Dinner: Tender sliced turkey breast, savory stuffing, gravy and cranberry sauce served with your choice of two sides and dinner bread. Feeds a band of Dwarves. Or one hungry human.....or Bear.

Lonely Mountain Treasure: Seed Cake French Toast cut into nine squares and served with a side of cream cheese icing for dipping.

Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies: Six bite-sized round red velvet Pancake Puppies® made with white chocolate chips and sprinkled with powdered sugar. Served with a side of cream cheese icing for dipping.

Bilbo's Berry Smoothie: Made with a delicious blend of raspberries, blueberries, pomegranate and nonfat yogurt.

Lone-Lands Campfire Cookie Milk Shake: A thick hand-dipped milk shake with a delicious blend of premium vanilla ice cream and s'mores cookie pieces topped with a dollop of whipped cream. Served with a little extra in the tin.

Make Your Own Twinkie

Nanda - The Jacket Live

bareboards2 says...

I watched these kids grow up!

Funny story...

I was out for a walk yesterday and ran into a friend who was with her 4 year old grandson. She told me a funny thing he had said the other day.

The blueberries are everywhere in the store right now -- you haven't lived until you have had an Olympic Peninsula blueberry. Sorry, I digress.

Anyway, the little boy had a fistful of blueberries and said to his Momo, "The blueberries make me feel like Nanda. I want to flip!"

And then I turn on the Sift today, and there are my boys, right there on the front page! (They juggle too, by the way....)



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