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Donald Trump: Magician-In-Chief

bobknight33 says...

Obama knew the timeline of the attack and pushed out his bogus Birth certificate a week before Bin Laden killing.

It is bogus as a 2$bill. -- The media and the left saying nothing to see here but truth was pouring out and so it was time for Obama to change the narrative.

Payback said:

Sorry Bob, you're reaching too far for that one.

Donald Trump: Magician-In-Chief

bobknight33 says...

Yea Obama does this too...

His best was when he put out a bogus birth certificate and was caught and then had to have Bin Laden 1 week later to wipe the story off the page.

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newtboy says...

He got one single thing right....when he started by saying "here is an unbelievable story".

Now let's look into the actual (not imagined like this one) relationships between the Republican party, Bushes, and the Bin Ladens. Also don't neglect the real, direct relationships between Trump and the Russian mob/Putin.

Way to over tag, Bob, so it can't be properly be tagged lies, debunked, and or fail.
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Payback says...

I suspect this is an insurance scam. His story changes as he tells it. Things like "the guy I bought this from is dead" then "it was my brother ". The packing is horrifically poor too. Who the Hell uses those flimsy plastic bins to ship stuff? Just silly. Even corrugated cardboard is tougher.

AeroMechanical said:

Also, though I'm sure it's not always practical, generally the irreplaceable fragile family heirlooms usually *don't* go on the moving truck.

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wraith says...

You shoiuld have read the Wikipedia article:

"Muhammad bin Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Arabic: محمد بن نايف بن عبد العزيز آل سعود‎‎; born 30 August 1959) is the Crown Prince, First Deputy Prime Minister and the Minister of Interior of Saudi Arabia."

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Asmo says...

/sigh

He has the right to be offended. He does not have the right to be insulated from offense by forcing everyone around him to remove themselves from his vicinity (which is what you are suggesting).

eg. Hey, I'm offended by you, mebbe you should go write your posts down on a piece of paper and chuck it in the bin instead of posting here. You know, to protect my delicate sensibilities?

Bitch please... \X D

bobknight33 said:

When the kid is hungry you got to do what you need to do.

Both sides are correct and wrong.

She could have go to her car or such for more privacy and the guy should have not been such a dick.


Target is wrong for being so one sided. However I can see taking that position just because the guy being dickish.

Two Veterans Debate Trump and his beliefs. Wowser.

RedSky says...

When you veer into talking about changing the Geneva Conventions I think your argument loses logic. Without getting into whether military action is actually justified in the first place, maybe it's worth admitting that there are some thing the US military simply can't do and therefore shouldn't try to?

To suggest that the US should forego international norms to achieve its goals feels like it's channeling the neo-conservative myth of the US as this omnipotent superpower that it never was, and certainly isn't now. What evidence is there that acting like the terrorists (which once you give up international norms you will eventually get to) would actually help achieve its objectives in the first place?

The Bush administration basically took that approach with torture (the "well they did it to us!" approach). When the news of secret rendition, Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo broke (as it inevitably would), we know that almost certainly recruited a whole bunch of new terrorists. Meanwhile torture confessions led to a whole bunch of wild goose hunts.

Civilian resistance has been around since the dawn of armies invading foreign lands. International norms geared around state v. state warfare don't really address them, not because they didn't envisage them but because occupying and pacifying foreigners was never a good idea in the first place. Drone strikes, surgical strikes on the likes of Bin Laden should be a rare exception but once you start 'normalizing' them, and giving occupying soldiers wider latitude with civilians that's when you start getting into serious trouble.

Mordhaus said:

I think you will find that most veterans, and currently serving men and women, simply want a clear objective that allows them to win the conflict and return home. Unfortunately the nature of terrorism means that while we follow long held rules that prevent collateral damage, or seek to limit it, the enemy we are fighting do not.

Just as we learned to our sorrow in Vietnam, as the British learned in fighting the IRA, the Russians in fighting the Mujaheddin, and we are learning again in our current battles, terrorists do not feel the need to adhere to the laws of warfare. They use civilians to support them, protect targets, or provide them escape methods. They attack civilians gleefully, knowing we cannot respond in kind.

While I do not support Trump, I do think we seriously need to have a new Geneva Convention to clarify how to treat terrorists and their civilian supporters. I think that is what the ex-Seal meant at the heart of his argument, that fighting terrorists using the old "Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, we have rules here" is an absolute losing proposition. Even Obama found that we needed to work outside the rules sometimes to be successful, hence his invasion into a sovereign allied nation to kill or capture Bin Laden, and his current extremely heavy use of drone attacks on suspected targets.

As far as the second veteran, I feel it is absolutely valid to question his integrity. He could have claimed CO status prior to going to conflict or simply not joined the military in the first place. Instead, he decided to claim it after experiencing combat, something my friends who have served noticed happening in the first gulf war. You really don't want a recap of some of the things they called people who left the service after seeing combat.



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