We will need to form a more concrete definition of "dupe" for this site. There is so much being sifted lately that this dupe issue is almost like being a victim of your own success. For the goldies and above it might not seem like a problem. They have the ability to deal with it when they see it, or if it affects their submissions. But for the others .. and for those who think dupes dilute the Sift and the concept of "Online Video * Quality Control" .. there's a growing problem here.

What do you want the sift to be? An indexing service for the wide array of video sources it pulls from? Or should it be the place to find the best of the best .. as voted on by the community?

I'm not saying this has to be the highbrow or bravo sift .. there's plenty of room for drooling kittens etc .. I just don't want to see the SAME damn cat shot from a different angle .. or with Beethoven instead of Bach playing while it falls asleep. Or that there was that five seconds extra of it purring. Especially if the first one queued doesn't get sifted.

I think the FAQ is clear, but there's a lot of subjectivity to interpret it. I think we should at least start by finding a definition for "same event" videos. ie it's not an exact dupe but it's the same thing .. sharing same video etc .. windmills .. rocket people .. etc.

Just my thoughts .. trying to be part of the solution. Love the Sift but I do think we need to work on the dupe situation.

Original here:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Karajan-Beethoven-Symphony-No-9-Part-1
http://www.videosift.com/video/Karajan-Beethoven-Symphony-No-9-Part-2

Looks like a bust of Beethoven in the thumbnail.

>> ^Fjnbk:
Beethoven was German, of course.

Beethoven - 31 results
Mozart (Austrian is still German, ja?) - 24 results
Bach - 42 results
Kraftwerk - 11 results

Volkswagen - 17 results
Audi - 13 results
BMW - 24 results
Mercedes - 8 results

Berlin - 48 results
Munich - 8 results
Stuttgart - 2 results

Austria - 10 results
Vienna- 8 results
Switzerland - 19 results

Eselsoße - 1 result

Beethoven was German, of course.

>> ^ant:
It should be the whole song!


<music grammar nazi>
piece, it's a piece, not a song.
</music grammar nazi>

Didn't need the angelic choir effects.

Or did you mean "should be the whole Sonata"?

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beethoven was deaf.

no problem. my train of thought to find it was crazy, though. I remembered it playing in "Mr. Holland's Opus" when he was talking about his deaf son, so I remembered it was Beethoven. Then a quick hop over to Wikipedia helped me find the exact piece.

Yeah, it was a slow day at work today. lol.

-Trent

In reply to this comment by ex-jedi:
Hey. Thanks for answering my music query. I think I might even have that piece lying around somewhere.

ex-jedi: That would be Beethoven's Symphony 7, Allegretto.

yeah this is too much, that's the point really, i doubt he ever actually listens to it that loud while driving to the shops. it's just EXCESSS! for fun

my lung collapsed after a drive in a car with a big sub, apparently that's another risk. but basically no research on it, maybe because scientists are all listening to beethoven or something. and maybe my lung just collapsed for some other reason, or for no reason at all.

kas per daug, tas nesveika!

that which is too much is unhealthy

I grew up in a house where ABBA, Boney M and Beethoven would always be played...

Sweet! Thanks choggie! (Looks like you posted Beethovens 5th

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In reply to this comment by maatc:
How did you get those notes in there? Well done!

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