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>> ^jwray:
There's no dichotomy between good moral principles and whichever general principles would be in the best interest of almost everybody.
If the mother didn't want to have a child, chances are that she wouldn't take care of the child as well as someone who wanted to have a child, so children in general are better off if parents in general are allowed to abort.
The Beethoven fallacy applies equally well to arguing against abstinence (who knows what genius you might have created if you hadn't abstained from sex!), so it shouldn't be taken seriously.
A rational determination whether legalized early-abortion is moral should weigh the harm of early-abortion itself (zero except the placebo effect) against the benefits (freedom of women, less suffering of destitute unwanted children) and the harms of the opposite legislation (delayed abortions, back-alley coathanger abortions, more babies than we need, penalties against doctors and women) against the benefits of the opposite legislation (none, unless there's a shortage of babies).


It's pure speculation on your part to assume that a child is better off living with parents who intended to have them than those living with parents where the pregnancy was unwanted. There are plenty of parents who "wanted" their children who go on to commit horrible physical and/or psychological abuse against them. There are plenty of "unwanted" children (from parents who are against abortion or did not have access to the procedure) who go on to lead successful lives.

But even assuming it were true that the wanted children were categorically better off, that's still no reason to assume that an "unwanted" child couldn't go on to lead a healthy and productive life. It's all relative, isn't it? The unwanted child didn't lead as happy a childhood as the wanted child but that does not automatically make them better off dead.

As for the "zero cost" of legal early-term abortion, perhaps it is zero cost to the parents but I think the unborn child is certainly paying a price.

Again, I'm not arguing for making abortion illegal but I am against having people trying to gloss over what abortion actually is: the taking of a human life. All this talk about "zero cost" and the like is, to me, just as dehumanizing as when the military calls civilian deaths in combat "collateral damage."

There's no dichotomy between good moral principles and whichever general principles would be in the best interest of almost everybody.

If the mother didn't want to have a child, chances are that she wouldn't take care of the child as well as someone who wanted to have a child, so children in general are better off if parents in general are allowed to abort.

The Beethoven fallacy applies equally well to arguing against abstinence (who knows what genius you might have created if you hadn't abstained from sex!), so it shouldn't be taken seriously.

A rational determination whether legalized early-abortion is moral should weigh the harm of early-abortion itself (zero except the placebo effect) against the benefits (freedom of women, less suffering of destitute unwanted children) and the harms of the opposite legislation (delayed abortions, back-alley coathanger abortions, more babies than we need, penalties against doctors and women) against the benefits of the opposite legislation (none, unless there's a shortage of babies).

Beethoven - The Original Deaf Jam.
-Mental Floss

A few points:

1. Nobody is doing any nude scene, especially not full frontal. Nobody wants to see computer nerds naked.
2. Kulpims is the resident fluffer, in case anybody just needs a pick-me-up.
3. It is not a romantic comedy, because we couldn't get Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan to resurrect their careers.
4. Blankfist is not allowed within 50 feet of Kulpims' mom, and he knows it. The law is the law.
5. Anybody with no vowels in their username will be killed off within the first ten seconds of their screen time, by a Vanna White impersonator.
6. There will be no bestiality, unless blankfist's mom wants a role. But let her know this isn't Beethoven 5, okay?
7. 90 percent of the people on this site will be extras, because I don't have a clue about most of you.
8. Nobody will be coming of age, coming out of the closet, coming clean or coming to grip with a deep-seated emotional problem. There will be no coming in this movie at all.

That is all for now.

KP is a slut.

Okay, now that is all.

>> ^LadyDeath:
Yeah she don't sing really good but I can tell for sure she one of the fastest guitarist,great video I Like it


Yeah, lol -- she just has one of those really obnoxious personas when words come out of her mouth. But, what can you say, it's 80s metal; they weren't exactly the most graceful in their heyday, but they could fucking shred!

I'm trying to find a good violin shred video of hers, because those are my favorite.

Hey you! Thanks!!!

In reply to this comment by Sarzy:
*promote

elementary school, art class. the teacher tells the children to draw anything that reminds them of Beethoven, the famous composer

one kid draws sheep and the teacher asks him why
"reminded me of pastoral symphony" says the kid

another kid draws moon and the stars
"moonlight sonata", the kid explains

the third kid draws a huge dick
the teacher goes nuts "i told you, this was supposed to be about Beethoven. explain yourself!"

and the kid says "für Elise"

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My dear gwiz, that'd be Beethoven: "Beethoven's Opus 131 (String Quartet), Movement 6".

Also, Hitler for the *dark.

>> ^gwiz665:
He was a pretty accomplished painter as far as I can see. But what do I know?
What is that enchanting music?

*music, for the Beethoven's Ninth.

*promote, for being an excellent video.

I play Beethoven's Sonata No 14, but every time I hear a professional play it I feel like my renditions are worthless. I've heard many interpretations, but this has got to be one of my favorites. Thank you!

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