>> ^brunopuntzjones:

>> ^Darkhand:
1:55 Jesus Fucking Christ John Goodman can be fucking terrifying.
Has he ever played a Villain before? If not he NEEDS to.

In Barton Fink and The Big Easy


I WILL SHOW YOU THE LIFE OF THE MIND!

>> ^Darkhand:

1:55 Jesus Fucking Christ John Goodman can be fucking terrifying.
Has he ever played a Villain before? If not he NEEDS to.


In Barton Fink and The Big Easy

Fascinating discussion. I have a bit of a mixed experience with the Coens. I find my opinion of their films improves with a second viewing, which is rare for me. I saw The Big Lebowski, O Brother and No Country in the cinema, and found them all to be enjoyable but suffered from a sense of style over substance. They were all shot really well, but something was missing for me. For example, Lebowski came out in the late 90s, and I felt at the time the Dude was a bit of a trite character. Now, of course, I see him for the classic he is, but on first watch something didn't sit right for me.

Having Wikied them, I'm going to check out The Man Who Wasn't There, Barton Fink and Miller's Crossing. Feel free to recommend any others.

No, didn't like any of them. I definitely credit them with getting these films made. They're wantonly unconformist and that's something to be applauded but their films feel shallow, if good-looking concoctions.

And often, sad to say, quite boring. I recall Barton Fink especially and felt especially burned by that as I'd journeyed to the cinema for that.

I loved O Brother Where Art Thou for the music which really got me into Bluegrass. I haven't seen all their films but probably most of them. No Country for Old Men just confirmed they're never going to change their ways. But they have their fans and that's cool. Better than standard Hollywood fare.

>> ^Sarzy:

>> ^Deano:
Sorry to say but I do detest the Cohens. Vastly overrated and seemingly incapable of developing characters or vaguely interesting scripts. Some of their direction is good so maybe they should stick to that rather than developing films.
Anyone catch the ending of Old Country or whatever it's called? Absolutely rubbish and typically contrary behaviour.
They really haven't done a decent film since Raising Arizona.
Finally why, oh, why are they remaking True Grit? Run out of ideas?

They haven't done a decent film since Raising Arizona...? You didn't like Fargo? The Big Lebowski? O Brother Where Art Thou? Miller's Crossing?
Incapable of developing characters? If nothing else, The Dude is one of the most iconic characters of the '90s. I know opinions are subjective and all that, but... you are incorrect. The Coen brothers are awesome.

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^shuac:
>> ^Deano:
Sorry to say but I do detest the Cohens. Vastly overrated and seemingly incapable of developing characters or vaguely interesting scripts. Some of their direction is good so maybe they should stick to that rather than developing films.
Anyone catch the ending of Old Country or whatever it's called? Absolutely rubbish and typically contrary behaviour.
They really haven't done a decent film since Raising Arizona.
Finally why, oh, why are they remaking True Grit? Run out of ideas?
Typical internet "opinion-wielder" who can freely tell you how much he hates something but is utterly ill-equipped to explain the reasons why. It's rather humorous.

Sometimes it's ok to have an opinion without having to back it up. Things like movies really don't need much of a reason, it's just how the person feels about it. Having said that, if I'm really passionate about something, I would probably want to know a good reason why, but sometimes there isn't one


I couldn't disagree more.

The ability to explain yourself has the effect of validating an opinion, whether people agree with it or not. I'm far more interested in hearing why Deano hates the Coen Brothers than hearing how much he hates them. I may never agree but at least he'll have exhausted due diligence. Additionally, I don't see how Deano's feelings will be negatively affected. In fact, if Deano were to properly articulate himself I think he'd find his own opinion will have been fortified, not diminished.

And as a bonus, I may get a new perspective on the Coen brothers.

I'll never be uninterested in hearing someone explain why they possess "opinion x." That is, in fact, the reason why we should expect a full explanation: because we're interested. I'm interested in hearing Deano's views on Fargo. How Marge Gunderson is a poorly fleshed-out character. Or why he thinks the last scene of No Country was such a failure. I want to know why he thinks the themes of Barton Fink are so ineffective. If we let him off the hook, then nothing of substance gets shared. Just empty words, utterly bereft of substance.

So I think that attitude is quite defeatist, Alien.

As a preemptive retort, "because they suck" and the like will not at all count as a proper articulation of "why" the Coen brothers are bad storytellers. Just so you know. If you didn't go to school then at least pretend like you did.

Did I just get really elitist at the end there? Oh well. I'll survive. And so will Deano.

Looks like a potential return to the surrealism of Barton Fink. Good stuff.

loved this movie. this and Barton Fink are 2 Coen Brothers movies that most people haven't seen. both definitely worth a watch.

Ah, the Barton Fink guy. Didn't know he was a director too. Upvote.

That guy is Tony Shalhoub! Monk, Wings, Gattaca, Galaxy Quest, Men in Black, The Siege, Barton Fink...