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1. Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
2. More Americans are now employed than ever in our history.
3. Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since his election.
4. Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than three decades.
5. Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
6. New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.

7. Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.

8. African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

9. Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.

10. Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

11. Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.

12. Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.

13. Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.

14. Under this administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

15. Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.

16. The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.

17. Ninty-five percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future, the highest ever.

18. Retail sales surged last month, up another 6% over last year.

19. Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.

20. As a result of his tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

"Are you ornamental?" Amazing.

*Asian Americans.

*quality

Oh yay, it's Gavin McInnes, the white nationalist dude that got booted from the company he founded for being even worse than the rest of Vice...

" McInnes has referred to Asian-Americans as "slopes" and "riceballs," suggested Muslims are "stupider" and "more violent" due to inbreeding, defended blackface because some minstrel shows were "just mimicking black people" and "fun," backed the racist comments of Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson, and argued that to yell the n-word at someone is "not racist" but "just very rude."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/05/meet-the-hipster-racist-fox-news-guest-attackin/199617

No arguments there on the good at math idea not being funny... I never suggested such an option. What would have been good funny alternative bits for Colbert to have done could be a separate conversation I think (good satire punches up, etc).
I appreciate your personal note. It indeed jives with what one of my Asian American friends told me- they don't find particularly offensive either. This friend also mentioned that their experience is not equal to every Asian American experience though. For others, it seems that it stings quite significantly. So I don't think this is case closed.

The question I posed with my analogy still stands -- while this is not true for yourself or my friend, for some people of Asian descent, "the Ching Ching ding dong foundation for cultural sensitivity" might be offensive on a level similar to how it would have been for Blacks if he had used "The cotton-picking nigger foundation for cultural sensitivity". How many? Maybe that number is at 10%. Maybe that number is at .1%. Maybe that number is at 50%. I have no idea. How do we as a society figure whether that is the case? I think we do it by having a big old dialog where a lot of people of Asian descent are involved.

Instead what I see is a whole lot of posturing, sabre-rattling, and band wagon jumping from people that are not of Asian decent and therefore have no personal experience with this particular form of racism to bring to bear on the matter. Those people should be primarily listening and asking questions, not posturing and sabre-rattling.

I don't disagree with your comments about Suey Park, as I said I think she acts crazy and I don't support her approach in any way. I think it's unfortunate that she's leading the charge on the other side of this thing, because I think she's doing a horrible job.

As I see it, Colbert is using Asian Americans (a minority that is also most definitely not atop the social power structure) as an example or prop to try to educate people about racism that's happening toward another group of people. Cool! We're helping out Native Americans. It's not really engaging Asian Americans though, who very commonly have racism directed at them as well. In my readings on this, it would seem a fair number (but NOT all) of Asian Americans grew up being ridiculed by things like "Ching chong ding dong", and it is steeped in an extremely negative racial connotation for that group of people.

I'm stretching to an extreme with this analogy, but I think it's necessary. What if Colbert instead called it the "The Cotton-picking Nigger Foundation for Racial Sensitivity"? I don't know about you, but I think that feels quite a bit more problematic.

But why does that cross a line where "Ching chong ding dong" doesn't? To be honest, while I think I could come up with some ideas that seem quite reasonable to me off the top of my head, I'm not *exactly* sure. Because at the end of the day, here's my reality -- I'm not an Asian American that was ridiculed with that saying and things like it, so I didn't have that firsthand personal experience. For all I know, for a large subgroup of Asian Americans, maybe it *is* very similar to the other example I mentioned would be for blacks.

So rather than thinking I have some magical grasp on what is offensive toward certain groups, I listen very carefully to what they're saying, and what their experience is. I think everybody should do that, and continue thinking about it and conversing about it. Instead, everybody seems to be rushing to Colbert's defense.

Artician, minorities like Asian-Americans have lower average crime rates than the White-American average.

So it seems like you're talking about NAM (non-Asian minority) culture, but you're instead using the blanket term "minorities" inaccurately.

Is this real? And they let this air as is? I'm about to have a fit over here, fucking racist assholes. Not only as an Asian American but also out of respect for those who have lost their lives during the accident. I find the whole gag to be very distasteful and extremely offensive.

By the way the apology link doesn't work.

@artician
This was in Oakland, California. Everything Oakland does is like this.


@Drachen_Jager
Zero accountability surely plays a role. A kid uses school to punch teachers, rather than to study? "It must have been oppression."

Asian-Americans can grow up poorer than Non-Asian minorities, but still average better than White-Americans in school scores, so it's about culture, not parental income.

CaptainPlanet said: "Ignorant."

Are you sure the word "ignorant" means what you think it means?

I'm sure you're aware that Asian-Americans have higher average IQs and educational attainment than other cultural groups.

So I'm not sure if you're trying to argue that's not true, or you just want people to not talk about it and remain in ignorance.



CaptainPlanet said: "Racist."

I'm the one arguing other cultures should try to be as successful as Asian-American culture, instead of frying their brains with drugs

These retarded people paid $50,000 and wasted 4 years just to party and get high?

Look at how Asian-Americans do anything, and know that it's probably better than how non-Asian-Americans do whatever it is.

In this case, that means study instead of destroying your mind with drugs.

>> ^bobknight33:

Some of the most stupid reason to vote for Obama.
Obama has 1/2 Asian sister - so vote Obama.
Obama has 3 Asians working for him - so vote Obama.
I was interned in the 40s - so vote Obama.
Asians have low voter turn out - so vote Obama.


He's making the case to Asian Americans that Obama cares about and understands their interests. Obama's cabinet appointments, family and upbringing help make that point. As for low voter turn out among Asian Americans, I think Takei is making a more general point that their community has gone through hardship and discrimination to get where they are now, and it's a waste if the younger generation doesn't choose to participate in democracy.

Who are we to decide what is or is not an appropriate reason for an Asian-American to support Obama?

@longde

Right, it's worth noting that the range of violence displayed by sub-cultures is the same, but are you saying that the averages are the same as well?

This came up in another thread as well, so let's look at the averages (as opposed to anecdotes).


In the US, people might guess that, per capita, a black person is 50% or 100% more likely to kill a white or latino person than the other way around. But the actual number appears to be much higher at 1200%.

According to the FBI's most recent statistics, where available, twice as many whites/latinos are killed by blacks, numerically, as blacks by whites/latinos in the U.S. In 2010 (where reported), the murder numbers were 447 vs 218. This means, statistically, that a black person is over 100% more likely to kill a white/latino person than the other way around.

To get per capita statistics (murders per race as percentage of population ratio), we take into account the differences sizes of the populations:
• 447 murders / 12.6 of US pop. = 35.5 per capita black on white/latino murders.
• 218 murders / 72.4 of US pop. = 3.0 per capita white/latino on black murders.
That means that an individual member of the black community is 1200% (35.5 / 3) more likely to murder a white/latino person than the other way around.