This is one of the most horrific things I've ever seen - even the crow blends in with his "artificial environment" better than he does.

Is there an animal cruelty channel?

This video, or one like it was sifted about 5 years ago to much fanfare and many votes....Fast-forward to the now, and animal cruelty comments....The world is either becoming a kinder, gentler, peaceful place or worse, people are more concerned about the well-being of a resilient, mite-infested tree-rat (able to absorb shocks like a fall from great heights, hello??) than that of the human race being fist-fucked by a small minority of the same...Maybe this one's more you speed:

http://videosift.com/video/Squirrel-Takes-a-Seat-to-Eat or this one
http://videosift.com/video/Squirrel-Go-Round

Kinna cruel but I'm guessing the squirrels' no worse for the wear and they do invariably, come back for more. Personally, I prefer this one:
http://videosift.com/video/Homemade-Squirrel-Catapult
and the water-sprinkler squirrel thingy, which I can't find here.

Pretty sure that falls under animal cruelty. Not cool.

What a load of bias rubbish. Very selective quoting. The ban on fox hunting was nothing to do with human rights, but rather animal cruelty. Foxes can still be hunted, with a gun of all things. You're just not allowed to let your dogs maul them to death because that's cruel. So what they're apparently campaigning against is a load of rubbish, hunting with guns is still legal.

Oh, and so is pistol shooting - you just have to keep your gun at a gun club. The only thing that's illegal is keeping your gun at home.

As for Tony Martin, he's a nutjob. Tony Martin had his gun license revoked in 1994 because he shot at someone who was stealing his apples. Ok, so the guy was on his land and stealing fruit, but it's OK to shoot them? No. No it's not.

There are a lot of inconsistencies in his story of the incident. He claimed to have shot from the stairs having been woken by the break in. He didn't, he was shown to have shot from a downstairs doorway. He was lying in wait for them and ambushed them. He shot the kid that broke in in the back as he was trying to escape.

I'm pretty sure in America the feeling is just that the kid had it coming, he shouldn't have been there. I don't buy into that at all.

Homicide with a gun in the UK: 0.07 per 100,000

Homicide with a gun in the US: 2.97 per 100,000

US rate is more than forty times that of the UK. Which country has broken gun laws? The simple facts are that I'm safer in the UK without a gun than I am in the states with a gun.

Figures found here.

it seemed funny at first, but then turned to animal cruelty via incompetence

First I burst out laughing.

Then I laughed some more.

All in all though its probably on the verge of animal cruelty to raise it up like that. But I do not know the state the person got the dog or whatnot.

>> ^Stu:

I don't know how many dogs you have had and if you've ever had more than one. As someone has stated, dogs know just as we do when our time has come. When I had to put my dog down from cancer a couple years back she has stopped eating. She laid in the same spot for hours. When she saw me I had to stop her from getting up. You know why? Because they love in a way we could never understand. She knew she had had enough but everyday without a cry or whimper would come and wake me up. The day I had her put down my other dogs had woken me up and went straight to her side and laid with her. We all knew it was the end and that was when I did the responsible thing. I held her until the very end and when she looked at me she finally knew it was ok to go.
You say this is animal cruelty? So would you put a family member down because you think they've had enough? You're older family members who have arthritis and don't get around so much should be put down right? Yes this is the same exact thing. You say this is animal cruelty. I say this is a loving family who is cherishing the time they have together until the end. How many owners would find a way to ease their dogs pain and sit in the water for extended periods of time to bring their dog relief? How many owners would go that extra mile because their dog is still fighting to live, still fighting to see you smile at them in the morning, still wanting for you to rub their head as you go to sleep?
As far as I'm concerned, this is love and we should all take a lesson.
>> ^BicycleRepairMan:
Look, I can clearly see the guy loves his dog, and seems to do anything to ease its pain. But seriously, he needs to fucking get his head out of his ass and have the dog put down. As far as I'm concerned, this is animal cruelty, and its all too common with owners who cant bear the thought of putting their dog out of its misery.
Dogs have a really high tolerance for pain, which means that they can be in a lot of pain without showing it. When they DO show it, like this poor old sap, it means they are in a WORLD of pain. Constantly.
Insofar as anything is supposed to be anything, I would say that dogs are definitely not supposed to live like that. Dogs are supposed to be able to run, jump and have fun, to use their healthly legs and not least their brains, to do searches and whatnot. Being in constant pain (save for a few hours in the water) and barely being able to walk, much less run, is no life for a dog.
Putting a dog down is hard. Really hard. I know, because I've done it. I love all dogs, and I love my own dogs to death and its the hardest shit ever. But it needs to be done. Its part of having a dog, its part of the responsibility: If you get a dog its your goddamn responsibility to feed it every day, to walk it every day, to play with it every day, and not least to end its misery when the dog cant do those things anymore.




As stated in my first post, and clarified now: I am in now doubt that this owner, or you, loved your dog, and let me be clear, I can assure you I have loved my dogs the same ways. And perhaps cruelty is the wrong word, because it implies intent, but I stand by my claim because honestly a dog owner should be aware of what is going on, and when a creature suffers, and you know it suffers,(but you may never know excactly how much) and there is nothing else you can do to end its pain; End its pain.

I don't know how many dogs you have had and if you've ever had more than one. As someone has stated, dogs know just as we do when our time has come. When I had to put my dog down from cancer a couple years back she has stopped eating. She laid in the same spot for hours. When she saw me I had to stop her from getting up. You know why? Because they love in a way we could never understand. She knew she had had enough but everyday without a cry or whimper would come and wake me up. The day I had her put down my other dogs had woken me up and went straight to her side and laid with her. We all knew it was the end and that was when I did the responsible thing. I held her until the very end and when she looked at me she finally knew it was ok to go.

You say this is animal cruelty? So would you put a family member down because you think they've had enough? You're older family members who have arthritis and don't get around so much should be put down right? Yes this is the same exact thing. You say this is animal cruelty. I say this is a loving family who is cherishing the time they have together until the end. How many owners would find a way to ease their dogs pain and sit in the water for extended periods of time to bring their dog relief? How many owners would go that extra mile because their dog is still fighting to live, still fighting to see you smile at them in the morning, still wanting for you to rub their head as you go to sleep?

As far as I'm concerned, this is love and we should all take a lesson.
>> ^BicycleRepairMan:

Look, I can clearly see the guy loves his dog, and seems to do anything to ease its pain. But seriously, he needs to fucking get his head out of his ass and have the dog put down. As far as I'm concerned, this is animal cruelty, and its all too common with owners who cant bear the thought of putting their dog out of its misery.
Dogs have a really high tolerance for pain, which means that they can be in a lot of pain without showing it. When they DO show it, like this poor old sap, it means they are in a WORLD of pain. Constantly.
Insofar as anything is supposed to be anything, I would say that dogs are definitely not supposed to live like that. Dogs are supposed to be able to run, jump and have fun, to use their healthly legs and not least their brains, to do searches and whatnot. Being in constant pain (save for a few hours in the water) and barely being able to walk, much less run, is no life for a dog.
Putting a dog down is hard. Really hard. I know, because I've done it. I love all dogs, and I love my own dogs to death and its the hardest shit ever. But it needs to be done. Its part of having a dog, its part of the responsibility: If you get a dog its your goddamn responsibility to feed it every day, to walk it every day, to play with it every day, and not least to end its misery when the dog cant do those things anymore.

>> ^BicycleRepairMan:

Look, I can clearly see the guy loves his dog, and seems to do anything to ease its pain. But seriously, he needs to fucking get his head out of his ass and have the dog put down. As far as I'm concerned, this is animal cruelty, and its all too common with owners who cant bear the thought of putting their dog out of its misery.
Dogs have a really high tolerance for pain, which means that they can be in a lot of pain without showing it. When they DO show it, like this poor old sap, it means they are in a WORLD of pain. Constantly.
Insofar as anything is supposed to be anything, I would say that dogs are definitely not supposed to live like that. Dogs are supposed to be able to run, jump and have fun, to use their healthly legs and not least their brains, to do searches and whatnot. Being in constant pain (save for a few hours in the water) and barely being able to walk, much less run, is no life for a dog.
Putting a dog down is hard. Really hard. I know, because I've done it. I love all dogs, and I love my own dogs to death and its the hardest shit ever. But it needs to be done. Its part of having a dog, its part of the responsibility: If you get a dog its your goddamn responsibility to feed it every day, to walk it every day, to play with it every day, and not least to end its misery when the dog cant do those things anymore.


I fully understand your point and respect the humanity (or doganity?...) However I would never be able to put any creature out of its misery unless it could communicate in some fashion how much pain its in. I don't see how we can make that decision unless we have the proof (in this case a dogs whimpers or whining) to make that choice. I would feel terrible if I could not guarantee that I made the right choice.

Even though he is taking such drastic steps to ease the animals pain we don't know how severe the situation actually is. The owner might simply be going above and beyond when taking his pooch out for these naps.

Look, I can clearly see the guy loves his dog, and seems to do anything to ease its pain. But seriously, he needs to fucking get his head out of his ass and have the dog put down. As far as I'm concerned, this is animal cruelty, and its all too common with owners who cant bear the thought of putting their dog out of its misery.

Dogs have a really high tolerance for pain, which means that they can be in a lot of pain without showing it. When they DO show it, like this poor old sap, it means they are in a WORLD of pain. Constantly.

Insofar as anything is supposed to be anything, I would say that dogs are definitely not supposed to live like that. Dogs are supposed to be able to run, jump and have fun, to use their healthly legs and not least their brains, to do searches and whatnot. Being in constant pain (save for a few hours in the water) and barely being able to walk, much less run, is no life for a dog.

Putting a dog down is hard. Really hard. I know, because I've done it. I love all dogs, and I love my own dogs to death and its the hardest shit ever. But it needs to be done. Its part of having a dog, its part of the responsibility: If you get a dog its your goddamn responsibility to feed it every day, to walk it every day, to play with it every day, and not least to end its misery when the dog cant do those things anymore.

Up-vote for animal cruelty!

animal cruelty. Those kids deserve some consequences. Just thinking up the prank is one thing, then following through!?!

It probably qualifies as animal cruelty, it's certainly public mischief, and morally it's cruel, but damn, I couldn't stop laughing. I'm not quite ashamed of my upvote.

I think he was trying to say that if the assholes in town force all the good natured people out, it will cause the collapse of that town faster because there will be no mediating force to balance things out. It will just be horrible people doing horrible things to each other not accomplishing anything good.

That's kind of the plot of Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. Instead of staying in 'civilization' having the mob of idiots tear apart their creations and perhaps themselves, the intelligent inventors, engineers, artists etc.. all leave and go to live in a hidden utopia where they are free to be excellent and create incredible things that improve the lives of everyone around them.

If I was living in a place were my neighbours were threatening or attacking me, and they were beyond reason, I would leave too. It's a really nice idea that the 'good' people stay in a community and fight to make things better, all the power to them, personally though I would have no interest in becoming a martyr. Just my 2 cents.>> ^A10anis:

>> ^Yogi:
Whether it was morons or assholes, they are the worst people imaginable. I'm not a pacifist or a vegetarian but in my heart I feel that someone has to be seriously messed up in the head to harm a kitten.
Also I have to agree with Cenk here and I don't often. This is similar to my theory that if you're gay move to the coasts. If your town is full of complete morons, leave. Just leave do whatever it takes because it could seriously ruin your life one day if you stay. Get the Fuck out of that town. It's basically the Ayn Rand theory, but a bit different, the more intelligent, kind, and tolerant people leave these horrible places the faster they will collapse.

First, I cannot see the correlation between being a pacifist or a vegetarian to animal cruelty (one could be all three). Second, I cannot see your "theory" as viable. What evidence is their that abandoning your home to the mob brings about their collapse? I would argue that throughout history people have striven and fought, from within their community, for what is right and just. These are/were brave people who we have to thank for many of our freedoms. Simply walking away from a bully is not an assurance that he will stop.

>> ^Yogi:

Whether it was morons or assholes, they are the worst people imaginable. I'm not a pacifist or a vegetarian but in my heart I feel that someone has to be seriously messed up in the head to harm a kitten.
Also I have to agree with Cenk here and I don't often. This is similar to my theory that if you're gay move to the coasts. If your town is full of complete morons, leave. Just leave do whatever it takes because it could seriously ruin your life one day if you stay. Get the Fuck out of that town. It's basically the Ayn Rand theory, but a bit different, the more intelligent, kind, and tolerant people leave these horrible places the faster they will collapse.

First, I cannot see the correlation between being a pacifist or a vegetarian to animal cruelty (one could be all three). Second, I cannot see your "theory" as viable. What evidence is their that abandoning your home to the mob brings about their collapse? I would argue that throughout history people have striven and fought, from within their community, for what is right and just. These are/were brave people who we have to thank for many of our freedoms. Simply walking away from a bully is not an assurance that he will stop.