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What attracted Sigourney Weaver to the character of Ripley

cloudballoon says...

I'd have zero qualm calling Theron's Aeon #3 pre-MMFR's Furiosa. But it's Theron, man... she can make a librarian look bad ass.

I don't think my wife & I have missed any movies with her as lead since Monster. Theron's just the creme de la creme in our book.

What attracted Sigourney Weaver to the character of Ripley

newtboy says...

What about Aeon Flux?

cloudballoon said:

While there are lots of femme fatales throughout cinema history, Sigourney Weaver & Linda Hamilton in T2 were the Sci Fi heroine extraordinaires that are still hard to beat to this day IMO. Theron's Furiosa probably deserves to occupy the #3 spot on the tough-as-nails female roles.

How Women Are Written In Sci-Fi Movies

kir_mokum says...

*90s.

i would say aeon flux is also an exception for precisely the reasons you gave. it was also wildly outside the norms at the time and now.

newtboy said:

The animated Tv show from the 80's, of course. The movie was a disappointment.

I mention it because Aeon, the female scientist/superspy/clone, is capable of doing her job and being nice....at least nice to those not trying to kill her. Capable of being impossibly good at her job and being a loving, caring partner. Capable of unraveling the labyrinthine, convoluted, outrageously sci-fi conspiracies while wearing heels and latex and looking sexy as Hell doing it.
If Ripley is the exception to the rule, what is Aeon, who ignores all these rules?

How Women Are Written In Sci-Fi Movies

newtboy says...

The animated Tv show from the 80's, of course. The movie was a disappointment.

I mention it because Aeon, the female scientist/superspy/clone, is capable of doing her job and being nice....at least nice to those not trying to kill her. Capable of being impossibly good at her job and being a loving, caring partner. Capable of unraveling the labyrinthine, convoluted, outrageously sci-fi conspiracies while wearing heels and latex and looking sexy as Hell doing it.
If Ripley is the exception to the rule, what is Aeon, who ignores all these rules?

kir_mokum said:

the niche TV show or the terrible movie that is it's own trope? (aeon flux, ultraviolet, atomic blonde, lucy, GitS (the shitty scar jo one), resident evil, anna...)

How Women Are Written In Sci-Fi Movies

How Women Are Written In Sci-Fi Movies

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enoch (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Oh yeah. I still have a couple of VHS tapes of Liquid Television in the garage, including the entire Aeon Flux series they aired. Good times.

enoch said:

remember in the 80's MTV had a show called "liquid television"?
remember aeon flux?
thats peter chung,the animator who made dark fury.
it is a pretty decent short film based on the riddick universe.kinda like animatrix in a way.

newtboy (Member Profile)

enoch says...

remember in the 80's MTV had a show called "liquid television"?
remember aeon flux?
thats peter chung,the animator who made dark fury.
it is a pretty decent short film based on the riddick universe.kinda like animatrix in a way.

newtboy said:

I didn't know anyone made this movie. Now I'll have to find it somewhere.
I also didn't know Riddick was really just an attention whore. Across for attention, lengthwise for results.

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iaui says...

I get that niqabs are mostly just an implementation of aeons of patriarchy but they're still heavily entrenched in their culture. It's not just that they want to wear a niqab like some costume for some celebratory religious purpose during their citizenship ceremony, like they're putting on a motorcycle helmet just for the shit of it, but they wear a niqab _everywhere_ they go. They keep their bodies covered everywhere they go in public, for all of their lives, forever. Their niqab _is_ who they are. Their niqab _is_ a fundamental part of the citizenship they are declaring.

And as much as we might rail against it as being dehumanizing of a person to basically have their identity stripped in public, it's actually what the women want. And it's actually not up to us to make that decision for that culture. (I think in time things might change, especially if that culture is allowed to live side-by-side with ours.)

I think if it was some new-age religion, like someone is claiming to be 'jedi' and saying they're not allowed to show their face anywhere in public, well, if they actually lived that reality maybe they'd be allowed but I doubt it. But here we're talking about a fellow civilization with an equally storied history that has existed for many millennia alongside ours. And that can't just be thrown away because we think it should be.

ChaosEngine said:

Regarding the niqab, the rule should be pretty simple:

are you allowed take the citizenship oath while your face is covered (i.e. with a mask or a motorcycle helmet)?

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