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Keep Wall Street Occupied

L0cky says...

Warning, party pooping.

The mail will never reach any employee of a bank, let alone a banker. It goes to a data collection warehouse.

People with already crappy jobs working for a sub contractor who do nothing but open envelopes all day and sort their contents will be the ones who will have to bin all your wooden shivs and messages.

On top of that, your local (probably unionised) mailman will have to lug around this extra mail on his/her collection round.

Nice sentiment, but poor in execution

Also, right now I don't see an effective end goal in trying to increase the banks' costs. We pay all their costs anyway, through charges or bailouts.

dystopianfuturetoday (Member Profile)

The rich have less empathy than poor and middle class people

chilaxe says...

@Creature

I think that argument is cherry picking the least social upper class jobs and comparing them against the most social lower class jobs.

There are just as many non-social low-end jobs as their are social low-end jobs... construction workers, dish washers, agriculture workers, factory workers, warehouse workers, delivery drivers... all non-social jobs.

However, if the difference really is just that upper class jobs are less social by nature, than the scientists are merely measuring a gap between social and non-social jobs, rather than some quality about being rich itself. So the study would more accurately be called: "Manual laborers and some rich people have less empathy than wealthy salesmen and some poor people."

No One in this Country Got Rich on His Own

My_design says...

This is BS. Utter BS. Underlying social contract? - I think the government broke that contract a long damn time ago!!!
I hire workers that paid way to damn much for their college education.
I, and their parents, paid taxes for them to get a crappy public education before that.
I ship product on poorly maintained roads, where the person standing with the stop/go sign gets more per hour than my warehouse workers.
My employees pay taxes on the money I pay them, which I have paid taxes as well.
I pay taxes on every cent I earn and my employer pays taxes on every product we sell.
I pay for every damn thing I use and pay taxes on every damn thing I buy.
If I should happen to work my a$$ off and get rich, guess what I did it by my own damn self DESPITE the government - not because of. And it's not luck - it's hard damn work. You make your own luck.
As far as incentive's for investing by giving a lower tax rate - yep that's what we do and there is nothing wrong with that. I make money and pay taxes on it. I buy something and I pay taxes on it. I save money and I pay taxes on the interest. I put some of what I have left in the Stock market - I TAKE RISKS on investing in companies which promotes their growth and the strengthening of our economy and IF I should happen to make money off of it then that is the reward for taking the risk. I shouldn't have to pay the same tax rate as if I had gotten it from my employer. My job doesn't incur risk, investing does. If you don't give an incentive to someone for taking risk, then you have no investment. I'd just buy government bonds at some crappy interest rate- just not in California or Illinois.
Yet we all focus on the part where she mentions capital gains tax and not the other part where she mentions Medicare, Medicaid, and 2 wars? How about we focus on changing those first couple of things and get our government to run EFFICIENTLY and then come back asking for more money.

Perry For President

garmachi says...

I'm open to arguments to the contrary. Here's my position. This belongs in the *terrible channel.

As in: "who greenlighted this turd?!?" Rick Perry did, that's who. And if he sincerely believes that the people he wishes to lead will be easily sucked in by images of the incumbent juxtaposed with images of empty warehouses and rain, and the sounds of alarms (seriously, watch again and listen - klaxons signal our impending doom under the current administration)... if he believes that, then our political landscape is far more bleak than a shopping mall in whatever zombie flick this trailer was lifted from.

No one with more than ten percent of a brain can watch this and not cringe and/or feel embarrassed for the producers, actors, and other participants. That, to me... defines "terrible" on many levels.

Food Speculation Explained

Porksandwich says...

Basically it describes how people make money by producing nothing, providing nothing, and servicing no one.

If there were a lot of land available for farming and industrious small company could setup to compete, avoid futures and undercut everyone who plays in it. But the land, the seeds, and the lines of production are owned by one or two big companies.

Whole situation is crazy. Producing raw materials and goods, especially food, should be the number one thought...now how they can make money off the guys who produce by jacking the prices up and providing no benefit in doing so. Shipping things, good. Leaving things sit in the field or in a warehouse while the price goes up for the consumer but not the farmer because people are dicking with the market.....shouldn't fly.

Goes for oil futures as well. It's bullshit that some guy makes a buck off of oil that never changed it's location, state, quality, or anything else to make it worth more for legitimate reasons. And it's not like they hold on to this stuff like a collector would to preserve it, they might hold it for a day or a few months, but it's unlikely they hold it for a year.

And some how the scenario described in this video is so important and influential in the US it can kill the rest of the economy. Allowing it to continue is just stupid beyond belief, make all those guys take their money and invest in production or services if they are so knowledgeable.

Chomsky explains Cold War in 5 minutes

Yogi says...

>> ^TangledThorns:

Noam Chomsky is writing his new book, title will be 'This Book, Brought To You By Capitalism!'


Ironic considering he has a great story about a large publishing company shutting down an entire smaller publishing company they own just so his book wouldn't be released. It was already printed and warehouses full of his books and some corporate guy didn't want it released, he couldn't just refuse that book so he shut down the company...and other peoples books weren't published as well.

Capitalism is controlled by people...just because they're not politicians doesn't make them better, they're not voted for and they only care about the bottom line.

Assume a Republican will win in 2012. Which candidate would you want it to be? (User Poll by xxovercastxx)

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

But why is it that always seems to be way down on the list. Taken from This site:

III. The Global Deployment of US Military Personnel

There are 6000 military bases and/ or military warehouses located in the U.S. (See Wikipedia, February 2007).

Total Military Personnel is of the order of 1,4 million of which 1,168,195 are in the U.S and US overseas territories.

Taking figures from the same source, there are 325,000 US military personnel in foreign countries:

800 in Africa,
97,000 in Asia (excluding the Middle East and Central Asia),
40,258 in South Korea,
40,045 in Japan,
491 at the Diego Garcia Base in the Indian Ocean,
100 in the Philippines, 196 in Singapore,
113 in Thailand,
200 in Australia,
and 16,601 Afloat.

In Europe, there are 116,000 US military personnel including 75,603 who are stationed in Germany.

In Central Asia about 1,000 are stationed at the Ganci (Manas) Air Base in Kyrgyzstan and 38 are located at Kritsanisi, in Georgia, with a mission to train Georgian soldiers.

In the Middle East (excludng the Iraq war theater) there are 6,000 US military personnel, 3,432 of whom are in Qatar and 1,496 in Bahrain.

In the Western Hemisphere, excluding the U.S. and US territories, there are 700 military personnel in Guantanamo, 413 in Honduras and 147 in Canada.


>> ^Lawdeedaw:
>> ^dag:
At least Paul would bring home the troops and close the overseas bases.

And with the debt at incredible levels, can we afford to do anything besides that?

Russell Brand Nails UK Riots In Guardian

shagen454 says...

I had this sentiment as well. When I heard the Sony warehouse went up in flames at first I laughed - fucking awesome. But, then I was informed that a lot of the content in that warehouse were from big indies like Domino, Rough Trade... and I changed my mind. If they would have just fucked up the banks it would have been all good.

>> ^hpqp:

Fight the power by all means, kids, but not by fucking up your neighbours' livelihoods. The number one victims here are not the gvt or the richies, but the poor members of your community, in the same shit as you, trying to make a living that you just destroyed.

How Indiana Jones 4 Should Have Ended

direpickle says...

The CGI monkeys, the CGI ants, the CGI prairie dogs, the CGI warehouse, the CGI alien... in fact, every single scene in the entire movie with CGI, THE SPACE BETWEEN SPACES... And you know, the fridge might've actually been okay if it didn't involve it getting hurled thousands of feet, and it was some distance from the heart of the blast to begin with.

SuicideGirls Fight Club

Yogi says...

I used to have a SuicideGirls account. It was pretty cool back in high school but...meh.

After watching this though I think they've rather missed the point of "Fight Club" as a movie. Whereas Fight Club was about brotherhood and finding manliness again and such this seems more like celebrating a victory and brutalizing your opponent. Fight Club was much different in that after a fight it was customary for the two men to hug, it wasn't about celebrating the victor, there was no real winner in a sense. In fact the time when Jack (narrator) wins and then brutalizes a fellow participant so he cannot get up on his own is one where everyone acknowledged he deviated from the spirit of what Fight Club was about. He was cast as the villain for what he did to Jared Leto's character.

SuicideGirls may have tried to show how it would be if women got together topless to fight in a warehouse but this isn't anything to do with Fight Club. Whoever wrote and directed this just missed the mark and I'd like to see it again done right.

...Or maybe I just want to see topless girls hugging after getting all sweaty...dismiss me if you wish.

ReasonTV presents "Ask a Libertarian Day" (Philosophy Talk Post)

blankfist says...

@DerHasisttot,

Well, if the larger business is more efficient and provides a superior product or service, then they'd certainly continue to profit. And that's a good thing. But usually larger organizations (be it government or corporations) aren't efficient, and there's typically waste at some level. The current government restrictions and corporate welfare (mentioned above) allow them to be profitable despite their waste (Currently, taxpayers subsidizing their losses and in return not allowed to compete on an even playing field with the corporations! How ridiculous is that?).

In a free market, if I opened a small bake shop, I could oversee every aspect of that company fairly easily. If I was the CEO of a large baking company with three warehouses, a corporate office, several baking and packaging facilities, and a slew of brick and mortar shops, I'd probably have a hard time keeping an eye on every element deserved of consideration. Not that it can't be done, but certainly it would be difficult, so most likely I'd start losing profits without government subsidies (and the loss of business from new competitors) and need to shrink my business to something more manageable.

It would be harder for large companies to continue to flourish amid the competition that would arise when the costly restrictions are removed that're currently in place. If you live in the States and ever opened your own business, you'd understand how difficult it is to be a small entrepreneur with very little capital. You're taxed heavily for starters, even if you're showing a loss instead of profit. And some businesses require costly licenses and other regulatory fees to be paid.

New Amazing Dashcam Footage of 3.11 Tsunami

SDGundamX says...

EXTREMELY ROUGH TRANSLATION PART 4 (FINAL)

6:68~7:33

[NARRATOR] An instant before the car sinks, Mr. Muroga fled from the vehicle, barely escaping with his life. We took this opportunity to have him watch the images and give us his thoughts.

[MR. MUROGA] Ah, right at this point. I saw the cars being swept along and thought “It’s a tsunami!”

[NARRATOR] From the left-side of the screen, cars flow past and Mr. Muroga realizes the danger.

[MR. MUROGA] The camera doesn’t capture it, but I could see in the rearview mirror that an even faster tsunami had already arrived behind me.

7:33~8:16

[NARRATOR] These are pictures Mr. Muroga took with his own camera. This picture looking out the back of the car allows us to understand the ferocity with which the tsunami behind him arrived.

[MR. MUROGA] At this time, the cars were crashing into each other with great force and my car began to be battered out of shape.

[NARRATOR] Surrounded by waves, Mr. Muroga decided it was too dangerous to try to leave his vehicle.

[MR. MUROGA] I thought about things like, “Maybe I’ll be able to escape when the water recedes.”

[NARRATOR] However, instead of receding, the water began to churn with even greater intensity.

8:16~8:55

{MR. MUROGA} At this point, the car began to be swept away. I was carried away by the current.

[NARRATOR] The tsunami flowed from the ocean between the buildings, capturing Mr. Muroga’s car like a pincer. Within only 30 seconds his car was completely afloat and slowly drifted along. But after that his car entered the faster part of the current and was dragged along by the tsunami.

8:55~9:20

[NARRATOR] This is the point at which Mr. Muroga, being swept along by the tsunami, escaped from his vehicle.

[MR. MUROGA’S VOICE ON VIDEO] Okay, now!

[MR. MUROGA] I think I jumped from the vehicle at this point. Because water suddenly began pouring inside.

[NARRATOR] Just moments before the car sinks, Mr. Muroga makes his escape through the window he had opened earlier.

9:20~9:55

[NARRATOR] Mr. Muroga’s car was swept approximately 150 meters into the wall of a warehouse before sinking. Mr. Muroga, while being swept along by the current, managed to swim to a nearby building and pull himself from the water. He visits the scene of the accident for the first time since the incident. As he approaches the area where the current was strongest, he notices something.

[MR. MUROGA] Ah, look over there, by the divider. Right there, the curb has been practically erased. Clearly the tsunami did that, no?

9:55~11:16

[NARRATOR] Even now, three months later, the evidence of the tsunami remains. What can we learn from these images? We requested Dr. Imura, a tsunami specialist to analyze them. The first thing he noticed was how quickly the water level rose.

[DR. IMURA] At this point it’s already over 50 centimeters deep and the cars are starting to float. Once that happens, the car is beyond control. The tanker truck has larger [in diameter] tires and isn’t floating yet. And then after the height reaches 1 meter, even trucks begin to float away.

[NARRATOR] Dr. Imura points out that once the water level rises above the height of the tires, the vehicle will begin to float and in a very short time be beyond driver control.

[DR. IMURA] Almost as soon as the tsunami appears before your eyes, your vehicle will begin to float. At that point you should monitor the situation and if the current doesn’t seem too strong and if there isn’t a lot of dangerous debris nearby, you should break your window and leave the vehicle as quickly as possible. Once outside, you should head for the highest area you can find, such as a fence or telephone pole—whatever is available. Grab onto whatever it is and climb as high as you can.

11:16~12:15

[NARRATOR] Also, Dr. Imura points out the difficulty vehicles pose on your ability to hear.

[DR. IMURA] It’s important to remember that the sound of the car will drown out outside sounds and make them harder to hear. The various sounds of a car may make it difficult to hear the approaching tsunami.

[NARRATOR] It is certainly true on the video that you cannot hear the roar of the tsunami approaching over the sounds the car. Mr. Muroga also had this to say about the sound.

[MR. MUROGA] In the video, I think you can see that there are many people lined up on the roof of that building. I’m pretty sure these people were screaming at us to run and get out of there. But none of us in our vehicles noticed them. We couldn’t hear them.

12:15~13:44

[NARRATOR] About trying to escape a tsunami in your vehicle, tsunami specialist Dr. Imura had this to say.

[DR. IMURA] Basically, people who can’t walk well should use a car to try to escape. Those who can walk or run should, in principle, not use their vehicles.

[NARRATOR] Cars being swept along… the might of the tsunami. Mr. Muroga told us that through these images he hopes to educate others about the awful power of the tsunami.

[NEWSCASTER, GRAY SUIT] It seems like Mr. Muroga maintained his calm in a difficult situation. In that part of the city, there are lots of buildings and you can’t see very far, making it difficult to notice the approaching tsunami. Furthermore, as we saw in the video, with the windows rolled up you can’t hear the tsunami approaching either.

[NEWSCASTER, FEMALE] It was very quiet on the video, wasn’t it?

[NEWSCASTER, GRAY SUIT] It had been an hour since the earthquake struck and Mr. Muroga was more than 1km inland, so he didn’t think there was any danger from a tsunami.

[NEWSCASTER, FEMALE] According to our tsunami specialist, it was the first time he had ever seen footage like this taken from within the tsunami.

[NEWSCASTER, GRAY SUIT] It’s very valuable footage. It would be great if many people—everyday people and tsunami specialists—could watch this footage and from it find the means of how to protect themselves and others.

Oh Yes...It Will Shred

v1k1n6 says...

That warehouse must have been empty by the time they were done. I mean they took all the stuff from the women's restroom, from the rec room, from the supply closet, from the waiting area, they even stopped by the surplus store across the street. Hell, the only thing they didn't shred was the shredder.

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