>> ^artician:

I have heard that various "entrapment" laws say that an officer cannot lie to a suspect (?), so for drug deals and prostitution stings (I think), if they say "no I'm not a cop", whatever illegal action they arrest a person for is not up-holdable in court. Someone know more about this? I could see her just being a civilian that's under the employ of the police department for that reason, but that would mean the titles off. Meh!


No. They cannot coerce you to do something that you probably wouldn't do. In fact, ex., a Latin King bust down here was completely thrown out because an informant threatened his ex-members, and they knew the guy was crazy so they feared for their lives...

As far as lying goes--fair game. Otherwise there would be no need for undercover-anythings....

>> ^chilaxe:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/Yogi" title="member since May 15th, 2009" class="profilelink">Yogi
Asian Americans are around 4% of the US population, and Jewish Americans are around 2%, so we wouldn't expect to see a high proportion of CEOs belonging to those groups.
It is, though, not uncommon to see Asian Americans in high positions in Wall Street, in medicine, or as CEOs in Silicon Valley, where I live, and Jewish Americans are certainly overrepresented as CEOs relative to their proportion of the population. The majority of big Hollywood companies, for example, have CEOs who are Jewish.


Well that certainly show'd me. Oh hey Harlem...Oh hey Compton...Oh hey Black and Hispanic kids graduating at a phenomenally lower rate than white kids. Damn guess there's nothing in America that has to do with ethnicity, socio-economic status, access to employment ect. Must be the weather or something right?

Look you're just crazy if you don't think it matters it does. There's been hundreds of studies on the subject if you want to look it up and stop bothering to argue it over the internet.

>> ^chilaxe:

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:
Cause the only factor in determining the outcome of your life is strong self will..
..not age or ethnicity, socio-economic status, geography, political climate, access to employment, whether you're part of the dominant social group; right?
>> ^EmptyFriend:
i guess it comes down to an old belief of mine: you know who didn't get kicked in the face? the kid NOT selling drugs to undercover cops.


That must be why Jewish and Asian Americans outperform white people.


I don't see too many Asians or Jewish people running americas corporations. You might see a couple in Executive positions but you also see a couple black people. You think ethnicity isn't something that matters it most certainly does, in study after study after study.

Different incidents. Oops. I missed that it was at the END of this vid that the new incident is discussed.

I don't follow this that closely, but I think that the Federal Government is stepping in to investigate the Seattle Police Department for unnecessary violence. I live an hour away -- close enough to care, far enough away to not worry about me being a victim at any given moment.


>> ^Duckman33:

>> ^EmptyFriend:
i need more info. was the teen doing something like robbing the place? he was handcuffed and taken away.
i am not trying to belittle those kicks, he obviously had his hands up.... i don't know, depends on the cirumstances. $450k is a lot of money for 3 kicks.

googled it: sounds like some shady business was going down but the judge let this kid off.... so he decided to sue for a half million. i don't know what amount of testicle damage and chest/face pain could be worth that much money...
i guess it comes down to an old belief of mine: you know who didn't get kicked in the face? the kid NOT selling drugs to undercover cops.

More info? [Edit] The kid wasn't doing anything wrong or shady other than looking like someone that sold drugs to an under cover officer... So he gets kicked repeatedly because he looks like someone. Then the cops have the nerve to say what the under cover cop did was necessary/required. I didn't know it was necessary/required to kick someone repeatedly about the body and head because they allegedly sold drugs to an under cover cop. Pathetic. They discuss this at the end of this clip by the way.

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Cause the only factor in determining the outcome of your life is strong self will..
..not age or ethnicity, socio-economic status, geography, political climate, access to employment, whether you're part of the dominant social group; right?
>> ^EmptyFriend:
i guess it comes down to an old belief of mine: you know who didn't get kicked in the face? the kid NOT selling drugs to undercover cops.



That must be why Jewish and Asian Americans outperform white people.

>> ^EmptyFriend:

i need more info. was the teen doing something like robbing the place? he was handcuffed and taken away.
i am not trying to belittle those kicks, he obviously had his hands up.... i don't know, depends on the cirumstances. $450k is a lot of money for 3 kicks.

googled it: sounds like some shady business was going down but the judge let this kid off.... so he decided to sue for a half million. i don't know what amount of testicle damage and chest/face pain could be worth that much money...
i guess it comes down to an old belief of mine: you know who didn't get kicked in the face? the kid NOT selling drugs to undercover cops.


More info? [Edit] The kid wasn't doing anything wrong or shady other than looking like someone that sold drugs to an under cover officer... So he gets kicked repeatedly because he looks like someone. Then the cops have the nerve to say what the under cover cop did was necessary/required. I didn't know it was necessary/required to kick someone repeatedly about the body and head because they allegedly sold drugs to an under cover cop. Pathetic. They discuss this at the end of this clip by the way.

>> ^EmptyFriend:

i guess it comes down to an old belief of mine: you know who didn't get kicked in the face? the kid NOT selling drugs to undercover cops.


That would certainly be nice.

You know who thinks it's ok for state security operatives to batter defenceless kids who know if they try to defend themselves they'll be killed or tortured or put in a box for 5 years? Dictatorships. And stupid right wing assholes.>> ^EmptyFriend:

i guess it comes down to an old belief of mine: you know who didn't get kicked in the face? the kid NOT selling drugs to undercover cops.

Cause the only factor in determining the outcome of your life is strong self will..

..not age or ethnicity, socio-economic status, geography, political climate, access to employment, whether you're part of the dominant social group; right?
>> ^EmptyFriend:

i guess it comes down to an old belief of mine: you know who didn't get kicked in the face? the kid NOT selling drugs to undercover cops.

i need more info. was the teen doing something like robbing the place? he was handcuffed and taken away.

i am not trying to belittle those kicks, he obviously had his hands up.... i don't know, depends on the cirumstances. $450k is a lot of money for 3 kicks.


googled it: sounds like some shady business was going down but the judge let this kid off.... so he decided to sue for a half million. i don't know what amount of testicle damage and chest/face pain could be worth that much money...

i guess it comes down to an old belief of mine: you know who didn't get kicked in the face? the kid NOT selling drugs to undercover cops.

It's really humorous to me to see SFPD's undercover cops. They just don't fit in, ever. Even when these messengers of the darkside are trying to get protestors to "incite a riot" so they can tase & arrest everyone, everyone knows who you are. I know you're reading this. FUCK YOU.

The other humorous thing about them is most of the drugs in the Tenderloin (like bad, bad stuff - OCs, methadone, heroin, crack, meth) are peddled a block away from the police station and it seems like every once in a while they'll try to nab a whole bunch of people but for the most part that entire block is overlooked by the entire police department. Why is that?

>> ^blankfist:
So, you're telling me after your player is shot in the face and the police find you after massacring hundreds of people including some of their own officers, you actually survive to play more levels?

No, you play (I think) 3 different characters in the game.
>> ^MaxWilder:
This is repulsive. I don't care what story elements brought it into being. Having a player target enemy soldiers is one thing. Targeting innocents is completely different. And it sounds like it didn't even make sense in the story. Ugh. Glad I never bought that game.

It made sense in the story (I don't think you get to comment on this, having not played the game). When I played through, I didn't shoot a single innocent (but I shot the hell out of the stores, TVs, windows and such). This is part of the game where you get to decide how you want to play it. Are you saying that someone undercover has never been put into a situation like this? Undercover cops haven't been pressured into doing drugs in front of criminals and such? Why shouldn't this be in the game?

Thanks very much for the effort.

This song is probably blasting out every where in the world, but I just discovered it here in UFO country.

Happy New Year.

In reply to this comment by eric3579:
Well if I spell it out, if I get it out,
Will you hear me when I tell you about
What I have to say, before it gets too late?
It's not as easy as I said it'd be,
But there’s something right about you and me,
Something right about you and me.

Well you’re the color of a burning brook,
You’re the color of a sideways look from an undercover cop in a comic book
You’re the color of a storm in June,
You're the color of the moon.
You’re the color of the night, that’s right,
Color of a fight - you move me.
You’re the color of the colored part of The Wizard of Oz movie.

We're like Romeo and Juliet,
We're like 40 dogs, cigarettes,
We're like good times that haven’t happened yet but will.
And I can tell you where we're gonna be
When the whole world falls to the sea:
We’ll be livin’ ever after, happily.

All the boys taking you for granted,
Tell you what they want with their eyes all slanted.
I don’t like the way they look at you,
I don’t like the way they talk to,
I don’t like the way they talk to you.
I wouldn’t let 'em talk to you like that.

Put 'em up high, reach for the ceiling.
Tell them that I'ma walk, damn it, I'm real,
And it ain't no crime, it's just dreams we’re stealing -
Anything to get more of this feeling

You take the high and I'll take the low,
We'll get there before you know.
We ain't got no time to waste,
We got too much life to taste.

We're like Romeo and Juliet,
And 40 dogs, cigarettes,
We're like good times that haven’t happened yet but will.
And I can tell you where we're gonna be
When the whole world falls to the sea:
We’ll be livin’ ever after, happily.

Sometimes you remind me of a moonbeam,
On the ghost of a moonbeam out on the beach,
Down by the coast, slip into Manila,
Like the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

Come out tonight, come out with me, baby.
We'll throw the careful into the crazy,
Turn the sky black into a sky blue,
Turn the close shave into a hoo-hoo.
What I say is true, make a fire, gotta burn a few,
Make a fire, gotta burn a few,
We can do what we want to do.

We're like Romeo and Juliet, 40 dogs, cigarettes,
We're like good times that haven’t happened yet but will.
I can tell you where we're gonna be
When the whole world falls to the sea:
We’ll be livin’ ever after, happily.

Well if I spell it out, if I get it out,
Will you hear me when I tell you about
What I have to say, before it gets too late?
It's not as easy as I said it'd be,
But there’s something right about you and me,
Something right about you and me.

Well you’re the color of a burning brook,
You’re the color of a sideways look from an undercover cop in a comic book
You’re the color of a storm in June,
You're the color of the moon.
You’re the color of the night, that’s right,
Color of a fight - you move me.
You’re the color of the colored part of The Wizard of Oz movie.

We're like Romeo and Juliet,
We're like 40 dogs, cigarettes,
We're like good times that haven’t happened yet but will.
And I can tell you where we're gonna be
When the whole world falls to the sea:
We’ll be livin’ ever after, happily.

All the boys taking you for granted,
Tell you what they want with their eyes all slanted.
I don’t like the way they look at you,
I don’t like the way they talk to,
I don’t like the way they talk to you.
I wouldn’t let 'em talk to you like that.

Put 'em up high, reach for the ceiling.
Tell them that I'ma walk, damn it, I'm real,
And it ain't no crime, it's just dreams we’re stealing -
Anything to get more of this feeling

You take the high and I'll take the low,
We'll get there before you know.
We ain't got no time to waste,
We got too much life to taste.

We're like Romeo and Juliet,
And 40 dogs, cigarettes,
We're like good times that haven’t happened yet but will.
And I can tell you where we're gonna be
When the whole world falls to the sea:
We’ll be livin’ ever after, happily.

Sometimes you remind me of a moonbeam,
On the ghost of a moonbeam out on the beach,
Down by the coast, slip into Manila,
Like the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

Come out tonight, come out with me, baby.
We'll throw the careful into the crazy,
Turn the sky black into a sky blue,
Turn the close shave into a hoo-hoo.
What I say is true, make a fire, gotta burn a few,
Make a fire, gotta burn a few,
We can do what we want to do.

We're like Romeo and Juliet, 40 dogs, cigarettes,
We're like good times that haven’t happened yet but will.
I can tell you where we're gonna be
When the whole world falls to the sea:
We’ll be livin’ ever after, happily.

>> ^LostTurntable:
>>blame the shitheads with the bandannas, not the cops.


More and more now those shitheads are turning out to be undercover cops themselves, agent provocateurs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow
http://www.videosift.com/video/G20-Epic-Undercover-Police-Fail