To add to Citrohan, I would ask Debbie where the constitution talks about socialism or capitalism for that matter. Capitalism was in its infancy, and socialism hadn't even been conceived when that document was being crafted. The founding fathers would be surprised at the ideological weight you give this 'conflict' between capitalism and socialism.

We are not a welfare state? What about medicare, medicaid, timber payments to alot of the folks in Oregon, and actual welfare. I disagree, we do help people all the time; it's only delusional people like you who think your prosperity (or potential---ha ha--prosperity) is due solely to bootstrapping it.

You said the current administration is scrapping the constitution. Where? Name the amendment and what the Obama administration has done to weaken it. Is that question making your head spin? Do you know what an amendment is?

I can certainly point to a few amendments and tell you specifically how the Bush administration and the republican-led congress have diminished my freedoms.

Citrohan, they were not only silent at the surplus was transformed into a record deficit, these yahoos on the video cheered Bush on as he wasted our money on tax cuts and bullshit wars.

This is a really serious issue. ..and as sad as the human story is, the problem is bigger than that. 60-70% of the primary forest in the Peruvian Amazon is under threat. Alan Garcia, the president of Peru, has suspended constitutional protection of this area to open it up to foreign timber, mining, oil, and agricultural use. He is responding to obligations in the free trade agreement with the US; so this is not just a Peruvian issue.

http://news.mongabay.com/2009/0606-oil_or_death_in_the_amazon.html
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/ben-powless/2009/06/peru-battle-lines-drawn-over-amazon
Petition:
http://www.avaaz.org/en/peru_stop_violence/?cl=250341655&v=3461

Ah Murrey - The Evil Demonic Skull(TM) - When you weren't being evil you were sifting - congratulations on sifting 100 souls for pieces O' eight ARRRGGG!


A gold 100 star? Shiver me timbers! A vast improvement!

(end of pirate jokes)

>> ^jwray:
legalization would save taxpayers billions, and the preponderance of the evidence shows that it is not as harmful as alcohol and tobacco.


And put the people that survive on that tax money out of work. That's the only drawback. Draconian pot laws keep jails full and law enforcement busy, at that employs many people.

The alcohol and tobacco industries have billions of dollars to spend preventing the legalization of pot. Not to mention the oil, timber and cotton industries wanting to keep industrial hemp outlawed as well.

There's very little money to be made if you legalize weed as a drug. We're talking about a plant that requires little effort to grow and process to make a usable substance. If it were legal the majority of pot heads would just grow their own at home, only thing stopping most of them from doing it now is the risk of getting caught and being sentenced to a mandatory 20 years.

The hemp industry though would be a boon to the economy. Hemp oil could replace foreign oil. Hemp fiber could produce quality paper and textiles. And on the environmental side, hemp plants absorb a lot of carbon from the atmosphere. There was a time when hemp was the US's largest cash crop, there's no reason why it shouldn't be again. And after learning about the corn industry, it'd probably wouldn't hurt to replace much of the corn crops with hemp fields.

Upvote for the terrible acting from the studio "audience".

I was a little disappointed they didn't mention that the oil, timber, and cotton industries were behind much of the early marijuana prohibition. Industrial Hemp, something you wouldn't want to smoke, was the primary target of early legislation, the government used the propaganda about reefer to distract the masses.

Wait for it...Wait for it... TIMBER!

There is a severe misconception when it comes to discussing the World Trade Organization. Very briefly I will try to clear some things about what the WTO does...

The WTO negotiates trade agreements on the global level between governments for trade standards, it succeeded the General Agreement on Trades and Tarrifs (GATT).

Trade is one of the most important factors of economic development, if one country is good at producing one specific item it would trade with another nation that is good at producing something else, both parties benefit in a fruitful trade environment. This is important because trade creates what is called comparative advantages, e.g. Germany is good at producing beer, Russia is good at producing vodka, the both trade to gain benefits. Basically some countries are better at producing goods A and others at goods B, both trade and both expand and benefit as such.

Before the great depression and both World Wars, trade between nations was fairly open, nations would freely allow the movement of goods from one point to another. However post these economic shocks protectionism entered, countries started to close borders and introducing tariffs, import restrictions, quotas and variable import restrictions. This is problematic, some countries would not say have the infrastructure for heavy industry so cannot efficiently produce cars, other countries don't have the labor for cost efficient agricultural development. So there is a economic opportunity cost when investment takes place in industries that the benefit has no basis or advantage in, for example in my country they opened a computer factory during soviet times even though we were so far behind in development and software. There is a waste of scare economic resources then.

With GATT and WTO afterwards it, many of the trade restrictions have fallen the world over, leading to the cases we see of economic development in areas like South East Asia (China, India and the Asian Tiger economies).

However there are problems.

- Both WTO and IMF represent private corporate interests, siding with larger economies over smaller ones, so private interests in Western Nations can dictate the terms to smaller ones.

- Larger players possess the legalese and knowledge to push charges against smaller players, e.g. in the form of dumping charges (country A is dumping goods at below cost of production to penetrate the market to country B). For example the South East Asian economies are commonly accused of dumping their goods to the western world, when in fact its simply comparative advantages such as larger labor poll and such.

- Since trade barriers were existent already, large areas were already protected via political interests, the biggest being agriculture between 1st world and the 3rd world or smaller ones like timber trade between US and Canada.

An organization like the WTO is needed in that its a common form for discussing trade on a global scale, but it does not represent the interests of all fairly or provide a platform for such, one glance of their website will show you how many nations the US accuses of unfair trade advantages because its protections local interests.

However this is illogical, no nation can possess all production assets, due to scarcity, and the global economy is tightening year on year and becoming interdependent, which is a good thing, its very hard to bomb someone if your and theirs economies are connected through trade, this is happening between the US and China.

Its also presentative of the different rearrangement of economies over the long term, take the case of the UK a country that has went from primary industry, secondary and now is almost purely a services economy. China is now the worlds producer of simple secondary goods, the US is now a bigger R&D developer. The third world if it was allowed could feed the whole world and so on and so forth.

The economies are now interdependent as well, take your average laptop, the technology was probably developed in the US and Japan, the semiconductors were made in Malaysia and South Korea, and it was all put together in China.

Its not a perfect system by a long shot, however looking over the ages, economics is far better at leveling the playing field and brining together nations then idealistic statements and or anarchy which is common seen at WTO/IMF/G8 meets.

Of course there is a million other issues to consider... but I said this was a *cough* very brief description.

You know from the size of the tree trunks where I live, that nothing here is older than about 50 years old. That means that almost everything at some time has been cleared. In some ways,this realization offers some consolation, because to look at, you wouldn't think we live in a barren wasteland.

There's quite a lot of greenery and trees, so it shows that nature can regenerate and regrow. You only have to look at some old photos of the timber-getting days to realise however, that this greenery is but a sad shadow of what used to exist. Trees with trunks so thick 5 men couldn't touch arms around it, were everywhere, then. There's nothing like that anywhere, now.

There's no majesty in nature here, now. Just a struggling attempt at regrowth that gets knocked down every few months with each new housing development that our corrupt and immoral government allows with its stamp of approval.

I've had days like that. I bet someone could have saved it with a few timbers and car jacks.

poor guys.....they seem confused-sectarian bullshit may keep this region screwed for decades to come...when the U.S "pulls out", too late, should have used reliable birth control...ounce of prevention???? Is it bad the U.S. is there? Duh!....Have they fought a war without any sense as far as
rules of engagement go..YES!
Is this production with it's ominous music(cheese rip-off vivaldi-techno) fraught with a schlocky, slanted, un-professional journalistic style and timber?? YES!


Do you seriously expect folks to believe, that these seemingly reasonable gentlemen, are in a quandry as to why an occupying force given the clusterfuck of the circumstances, would think a camera crew of locals was suspicious??? Obviously, someone hopes to convince using such tactics, it is here for all to see........some folks have to quarrel, and there are those who, making use of another's quarrel, their personal empire from it build-

-Read The Sneetches, Dr. Suess has a perfect picture, of the reason for this bullshit-See no use for a production like this in the grand scheme of things.....find the folks who orchestrated the whole bill of goods, instead of talking about how bad it is......and look for another version of the same game......Cheery, isn't it???

Hexstatic is a UK music duo, consisting of Stuart Warren Hill and Robin Brunson, that specializes in creating "quirky audio visual electro."

Formed in 1997 after Hill and Brunson met while producing visuals at the Channel Five launch party, they decided to take over for the original members of the Ninja Tune multimedia collective Hex that had disbanded around the same time.

They soon collaborated with Coldcut for the Natural Rhythms Trilogy, including the critically acclaimed A/V single Timber. Much of their music involves integrated visual experiences, and both of their main album releases have been CD and DVD combinations; the latest, Master-View, includes 3D "anaglyph" versions of some of their music videos and comes packaged with 3D glasses. Hexstatic has also been instrumental in designing VJ equipment, including the Pioneer DVJ-X1 professional DVD player. Other artists they have worked with include EBN, Juice Aleem and David Byrne of the Talking Heads.

- More @ Wikipedia

As Keanu would say... "Woah"

The two video games used are the classic early arcade versions of Battle Zone and Asteroids.

Hexstatic is a UK music duo, consisting of Stuart Warren Hill and Robin Brunson, that specializes in creating "quirky audio visual electro."

Formed in 1997 after Hill and Brunson met while producing visuals at the Channel Five launch party, they decided to take over for the original members of the Ninja Tune multimedia collective Hex that had disbanded around the same time.

They soon collaborated with Coldcut for the Natural Rhythms Trilogy, including the critically acclaimed A/V single Timber. Much of their music involves integrated visual experiences, and both of their main album releases have been CD and DVD combinations; the latest, Master-View, includes 3D "anaglyph" versions of some of their music videos and comes packaged with 3D glasses. Hexstatic has also been instrumental in designing VJ equipment, including the Pioneer DVJ-X1 professional DVD player. Other artists they have worked with include EBN, Juice Aleem and David Byrne of the Talking Heads.

- More @ Wikipedia

Hexstatic is a UK music duo, consisting of Stuart Warren Hill and Robin Brunson, that specializes in creating "quirky audio visual electro."

Formed in 1997 after Hill and Brunson met while producing visuals at the Channel Five launch party, they decided to take over for the original members of the Ninja Tune multimedia collective Hex that had disbanded around the same time.

They soon collaborated with Coldcut for the Natural Rhythms Trilogy, including the critically acclaimed A/V single Timber. Much of their music involves integrated visual experiences, and both of their main album releases have been CD and DVD combinations; the latest, Master-View, includes 3D "anaglyph" versions of some of their music videos and comes packaged with 3D glasses. Hexstatic has also been instrumental in designing VJ equipment, including the Pioneer DVJ-X1 professional DVD player. Other artists they have worked with include EBN, Juice Aleem and David Byrne of the Talking Heads.

- More @ Wikipedia

This was posted before and died in the queue I think. I hope it lives.

Please re-format the title to "Hexstatic - Deadly Media", put music video into the tag and select music as genre.

"me timbers (shivered)"

LOL

Arrr!