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Not for nothing, but Rick serves as yet another "poster boy" for how there will never be income "equality." Mr. Rubin would not be "equal" in salary to most people, whether there's a free market, a crony capitalist market, a socialist non-market, or a communist non-market.

Eminem, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Beastie Boys, Sir Mix-a-Lot, Lana Del Rey, Krishna Das, Johnny Cash, Adele, Rage Against the Machine, Run DMC, Danzig, Slayer, the (extremely versatile) list of course goes on and on (and on). That's why Mr. Rubin is in the 1%.. Because you (and tens or hundreds of millions of others) listen and like the albums that he produces and not the ones produced by most of the other wanna-be (or actual) "music producers."

But, of course, the envy-fiends have their "reasons" as to why they think they should be paid that kind of money and/or deserve (like mobsters do) to have a a piece of his pie.

Or that if you could only get others to vote in a certain way, you'd be Rick Rubin, or in his shoes. Such a conceit reinforces the obvious: you can only control your self. Little-to-no benefit comes from worrying about or trying to influence what other people do or don't do (especially when it has nothing to do with you and you can't do anything about it anyway). The conceit that anything else is the case leads to profound suffering on both the personal as well as on the social and political levels.

Was telling ya last night about the WOMAD show I saw back in 93' at the polo fields, Rage against the machine wasn't there as I had thought, but here was the line-up, part of it, because they had 3 stages with a few local acts as well...

http://www.last.fm/festival/676819+WOMAD

The one I wish I would have been at is this one....unfortunately I was living in Portland at the time...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Freedom_Concert

Oh yes and sincere thanks you enoch, for keeping my rage against the machines created by a broken society in-check'n perspective-I am continually reminded by those close to me who can't stand my robotic reactions to bullshit, of the same dynamic. I can play nice when I chose to, but relish in every opportunity to hijack myself.

Flat-out road rage.

Now look dude: Don't use your footage of the guy's plate number to hand this shit over to any authorities, that costs everyone money. Track him down with his plate, arrive uninvited at his home, find his vehicle, and disable or otherwise vandalize it alla, felt-tip-penis-on-forehead-while-drunk-and-passed-out, and teach the cunt a lesson no cop can by citing him.

Yeah, needless to say you don't wanna rage against MY machine....

Years ago....Guy threw dip-spit out his window and it hit my windshield and got all over my arm-Ran his plates, arrived at his home, car in front, he got a gallon of Penetrol rubbed on with gloves like a glaze from bumper-to-bumper. Paint me with spit, you need a new paint job. He may have learned his lesson....Left a cup of dip-juice-looking stuff on top of his car.

Wow, that dude from Rage Against the Machine gets around.

weird how this meat lacks blood. Cold system?

Also, this video is lacking a Rage Against The Machine soundtrack. Maybe updated with a techno remix feel or dubstep.
Some of you know what I'm talking about.

>> ^shagen454:

Its strange to think that the term RATM was first purposed by a guy named Kent McClard of Ebullition Records. Back then Ebullition was one of the most underground, innovative and radical hardcore labels in th world. I guess Kent proposed the name for an Inside Out album to be released on Ebullition... Which seems strange since Ebullition and their bands were way more politically radical than Inside Out or RATM.
Dont know what the story is with this being a whole album performed live for a first show but maybe the band had be playing for a while and waiting for the right vocalist who happened to have a good band name in mind?


If I remember my RAGE history, Morello (lead guitar) founded the band with Zack (singer), they were the first two members.

At the time this video was made, they have a whole album of songs that are just about studio ready. At this point, they've been writing and playing together in somebody's garage for a long time. In all that time, I find it hard to believe they didn't get on a single stage. Is all I'm sayin'.>> ^packo:

>> ^messenger:
I'm ignorant of these things, but do new bands actually write and rehearse an entire album's worth of music without doing a single performance? I mean, surely in the months or years that process takes, they'd be trying to get on any stage they could, even for just a couple songs.
Anyway, awesome piece of musical history.

that venue may not of been that ritzy

>> ^messenger:

I'm ignorant of these things, but do new bands actually write and rehearse an entire album's worth of music without doing a single performance? I mean, surely in the months or years that process takes, they'd be trying to get on any stage they could, even for just a couple songs.
Anyway, awesome piece of musical history.


that venue may not of been that ritzy

@WKB

True, but when the Columbine school shooting was perpetrated, conservatives were quick to point the finger at Marilyn Manson's lyrics. I'm not saying they were right, and I'm not saying that Fox deserves all of the blame here either.

I do think though, that the people pumping that kind of rhetoric onto the airwaves deserve SOME responsibility for atrocities like this. Allow me to compare the Woodstock of 1970 to the Woodstock of '99 for an example.

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>>>>>>The 1970 Woodstock (billed as "3 days of Peace and Music") resulted in reports like this:

"The New York Times covered the prelude to the festival and the move from Wallkill to Bethel.[13] Barnard Collier, who reported from the event for the Times, asserts that he was pressured by on-duty editors at the paper to write a misleadingly negative article about the event. According to Collier, this led to acrimonious discussions and his threat to refuse to write the article until the paper's executive editor, James Reston, agreed to let him write the article as he saw fit. The eventual article dealt with issues of traffic jams and minor lawbreaking, but went on to emphasize cooperation, generosity, and the good nature of the festival goers.

When the festival was over, Collier wrote another article about the exodus of fans from the festival site and the lack of violence at the event. The chief medical officer for the event and several local residents were quoted as praising the festival goers."

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>>>>>>The 1999 version of the event (featuring bands like Metallica, Rage Against the Machine, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock and the Red Hot Chili Peppers who are all, dare I say, a bit angrier [lyrically speaking] than the likes of Arlo Guthrie or Joan Baez) is painted in a much different color:

"Some crowd violence and looting was reported during the Saturday night performance by Limp Bizkit, including a rendition of the song "Break Stuff". Reviewers of the concert criticized Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst as "irresponsible" for encouraging the crowd to destructive behavior.

Violence escalated the next night during the final hours of the concert as Red Hot Chili Peppers performed. A group of peace promoters led by an independent group called Pax had distributed candles to those stopping at their booth during the day, intending them for a candlelight vigil to be held during the Red Hot Chili Peppers' performance of the song "Under the Bridge". During the band's set, the crowd began to light the candles, some also using them to start bonfires. The hundreds of empty plastic water bottles that littered the lawn/dance area were used as fuel for the fire.

After the Red Hot Chili Peppers were finished with their main set, the audience was informed about "a bit of a problem." An audio tower caught fire, and the fire department was called in to extinguish it.

Back onstage for an encore, the Chili Peppers' lead singer Anthony Kiedis remarked how amazing the fires looked from the stage, comparing them to a scene in the film Apocalypse Now.[12] The band proceeded to play "Sir Psycho Sexy", followed by their rendition of Jimi Hendrix's "Fire". Kiedis later stated in his autobiography, Scar Tissue that Jimi Hendrix's sister had asked the Chili Peppers to play "Fire" in honor of Jimi and his performance at the original Woodstock festival, and that they were not playing it to encourage the crowd.

Many large bonfires were burning high before the band left the stage for the last time. Participants danced in circles around the fires. Looking for more fuel, some tore off panels of plywood from the supposedly inviolable security perimeter fence. ATMs were tipped over and broken into, trailers full of merchandise and equipment were forced open and burglarized, and abandoned vendor booths were turned over, and set afire.[13]

MTV, which had been providing live coverage, removed its entire crew. MTV host Kurt Loder described the scene in the July 27, 1999 issue of USA Today:

"It was dangerous to be around. The whole scene was scary. There were just waves of hatred bouncing around the place, (...) It was clear we had to get out of there.... It was like a concentration camp. To get in, you get frisked to make sure you're not bringing in any water or food that would prevent you from buying from their outrageously priced booths. You wallow around in garbage and human waste. There was a palpable mood of anger."

After some time, a large force of New York State Troopers, local police, and various other law enforcement arrived. Most had crowd control gear and proceeded to form a riot-line that flushed the crowd to the northwest, away from the stage located at the eastern end of the airfield. Few of the crowd offered strong resistance and they dispersed quickly back toward the campground and out the main entrance."

>>>>>>See also, this poignant response from a person in the crowd: http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/08/17/woodstock-legacy/ (crowdmember comments @ 2:20)

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Now now easy there big fella, before you start telling me about how correlation does not imply causation consider this: an article recently published by the American Journal of Psychiatry concluded that:

"Childhood exposure to parental verbal aggression was associated, by itself, with moderate to large effects on measures of dissociation, limbic irritability, depression, and anger-hostility." Furthermore, "Combined exposure to verbal abuse and witnessing of domestic violence was associated with extraordinarily large adverse effects, particularly on dissociation. This finding is consonant with studies that suggest that emotional abuse may be a more important precursor of dissociation than is sexual abuse."
See: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/163/6/993

Maybe not the best example I could have found but I've already spent WAY too much time on this post. The point is, WORDS carry a lot of power. Even if the pundits (right OR left) never came out and said it, the implication of violence was certainly there at times.

I KNOW Fox has lead the charge of fear mongering in the name of ratings but anyone else who subscribed to that level of attack should share some of the blame as well. Again, not saying that they should take all or even a lot of the blame, but they should be responsible for the violent laced rhetoric they spout.

I say STOP THE AD HOMINEM ATTACKS and we'll see less violence against PEOPLE and (hopefully) more enthralling arguments where the IDEAS are being attacked (which I'm all for) :-)

p.s. sry for the huge post but i was on a roll

>> ^Kevlar:

Great video despite having been caught red-handed in a case of soundtrack abuse. Rage Against the Machine? "There be no shelter here?" For fucking poolside tricks?
How about I slap some 💯0:0:true">Angel of Death on a kitty riding a turtle, while we're at it?


That joke might have been a bit better if my link actually worked.

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Great video despite having been caught red-handed in a case of soundtrack abuse. Rage Against the Machine? "There be no shelter here?" For fucking poolside tricks?

How about I slap some 💯0:0:true">Angel of Death on a kitty riding a turtle, while we're at it?

>> ^MrFisk:

Rage against the machine.


I wish it would happen more often when excessive force is being used against the apprehended. I have to think about that statement a bit because I hate to see anyone get hurt, but if you have a dude on the ground and five LEO's on top of him at the neck, torso and legs and one of them is punching him with a nightstick because he won't "comply", I don't really have a huge amount of sympathy for their point of view.