*promote the cool *animation

The *french pop music is OK too, but it's really the animation I'm promoting

I wonder what her point is, assuming there is a point. Is this just absurdism? Commentary on fame, celebrity, music, pop music? Is she mocking high art society? Is it a John Cage 'art is what you put your frame around' kind of thing? Is she purposely provoking the audience? Daring them to laugh? Are these supposed to be gutrural sounds of raw humanity? Does she hate the song or Katy Perry? Too much booze? I never really get where she is coming from.

@bareboards2

Don't be sorry - I love long posts, but I'll reply with a relatively short one.

It's amazing that you mention the 'authoress/poetess' controversy because I had exactly that in mind earlier. Good riddance.

This may not have been the case forty years ago, but today I'm all but certain the reason 'girl' is a popular alternative to 'woman' is what is lost in the substitution - one syllable. It just rolls off the tongue more easily, whereas there's no similar incentive to switch 'boy' for 'man'. Sometimes it's that simple. I suspect your answer would differ, which is why I ask.
For myself, I call women women, but that's just the way my vocabulary has evolved; I'm not making a social statement by doing so and if there were a single-syllable alternative that appealed to me I would jump on it for the same reason as if we finally fixed the number seven and the letter W.

When I say these words have come up in the wrong contexts, I only mean when they're being used to refer particularly to age, "grown man", and there's no way to reconcile the substitution with the meaning of the sentence. Actually if this exercise has taught me nothing else over the last couple of days, it has exposed how infrequently we seem to use these words outside of pop music - and I'm not sure getting Katy Perry to sing 'California Women' would necessarily redeem the song as a feminist anthem.

Knew he was a fake. You know, in the late 80's we had a massive conspiracy in the music world as Milli Vanilli were discovered as having faked their performances, and that they didn't even record their own songs. It caused such an uproar in the music industry at the time that it was on the news for months, the duo was stripped of their awards, shamed by the masses and one of the performers committed suicide.

Little did we know that a decade or two later it would be not only with this sort of fraud be common place, it would be the defacto standard in Pop music (and others.. I highly suspect Country because most of those male singers sound identical, they don't write their own songs and many visibly do not play their guitar even though you hear it being played when they are on stage). Big acts like Bieber are made famous because of their charisma and their sex appeal... and yes, that was the intent for his teenybopper audience. Their flat or unpolished singing voices mean nothing when a computer program just fixes their voice digitally and then they go on stage and just pretend to sing. The handful of times they actually sing themselves the performances are horrid.

Justin Bieber can sing a little blurb on a talk show or over the internet and sound half decent.. millions worth of singing lessons will do that. But when it comes right down to it he's the same no talent hack as the vast majority of the 'pop' world. What is even more funny is that the vast majority of websites, news channels, etc that report this don't even MENTION the fact that he somehow keeps 'singing' even while throwing up. The sad fact is most people have either accepted or become blinded to the fact that Mili Vanili were only precursors to a new industry standard.

In the end I feel bad the most for our children. They are growing up with this fake garbage and don't even know it. It's all so focus tested and programmed in that each new hit is the same and they don't care. It's why with my daughter I try and teach her to be eclectic with her musical tastes. I really don't care if I don't like what she listens to, just so long as she know how fake pop music is these days. Thankfully she's got her dads musical genes.

Yeah, I love it! It's really rather perfect. This is one reason I wish I liked regular pop music more - there's not enough scantily babes* in indie videos



*I've been listening to that Best Coast song>> ^Sagemind:

Early 80s style editing. In the style of Love Boat or Fantasy island.
They did a lot with little.

Damn dude! I used to think I knew how to search the net. Nice work, and I thank you for the info.

These were submitted in the hope of finding just such info, more than any hope they'd get sifted. So I owe you one now. LOL
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Electronic Pop Indie band from Lisbon, Portugal.

They have a youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/bangguru and their website is accessible using the archive.org internet wayback machine (it has been defunct since 2007) -
<a rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20070806143530/<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bangguru.com/">http://www.bangguru.com/">http://web.archive.org/web/20070806143530/http://www.bangguru.com/

From the bio on that archived site:

The Portuguese musician João Pico formed BANGGURU in December 2003. Featuring J.Pico (guitar, programming) , Marisa Fortes (voice, lyrics), Pedro Henriques (voice, lyrics), João Hora (programming) and José Dias (guitar). The group presents a multi-oriented electronic pop music and is working on their second album.

João Pico was born in the early '70s. He attended the Hot Clube de Portugal and several musical projects sprang up from this invariable interest in music. He is presently working as an image editor in a TV network.

Marisa Fortes was born in the late '70s. she had singing lessons in Academia de Amadores de Música de Lisboa. She has a degree in Portuguese and English Literature and is presently working as a teacher.

Pedro Henriques was born in the early ‘70s, he attended the Academia de Amadores de Música de Lisboa and studied Archeology. He is presently working as a technician in a TV network.

João Hora was born in the late ‘70s, he has a degree in Physics and he is a music composer since the early ‘90s. He is presently working as an audio technician.

José Dias was born in the early ‘70s, he has a degree in Portuguese Literature, he is a musician as well as a composer. He is a teacher and he also works in a Portuguese dance music magazine as a jazz reviewer.

Electronic Pop Indie band from Lisbon, Portugal.

They have a youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/bangguru and their website is accessible using the archive.org internet wayback machine (it has been defunct since 2007) -
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806143530/http://www.bangguru.com/

From the bio on that archived site:

The Portuguese musician João Pico formed BANGGURU in December 2003. Featuring J.Pico (guitar, programming) , Marisa Fortes (voice, lyrics), Pedro Henriques (voice, lyrics), João Hora (programming) and José Dias (guitar). The group presents a multi-oriented electronic pop music and is working on their second album.

João Pico was born in the early '70s. He attended the Hot Clube de Portugal and several musical projects sprang up from this invariable interest in music. He is presently working as an image editor in a TV network.

Marisa Fortes was born in the late '70s. she had singing lessons in Academia de Amadores de Música de Lisboa. She has a degree in Portuguese and English Literature and is presently working as a teacher.

Pedro Henriques was born in the early ‘70s, he attended the Academia de Amadores de Música de Lisboa and studied Archeology. He is presently working as a technician in a TV network.

João Hora was born in the late ‘70s, he has a degree in Physics and he is a music composer since the early ‘90s. He is presently working as an audio technician.

José Dias was born in the early ‘70s, he has a degree in Portuguese Literature, he is a musician as well as a composer. He is a teacher and he also works in a Portuguese dance music magazine as a jazz reviewer.

'His foray into pop music'... really? There are people left who don't know about Shawna Dancing?

Ahh, commercial tv, the bastion of 'you heard it here last'.

I was looking at another of their live videos recently. I couldn't help but think that an awesome band like this would never ever get signed today - too hard to market. This was pop music in it's time. Now look at the anodyne identi-kit shite that makes up the top 40 today.

Thanks for the promote!

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*promote this wonderful song.

you didn't say it was pop music

>> ^cito:

yea this is horrible, "canned" new pop is really an embarrassment on the music industry.
Companies like ARK music factory <- wikipedia them
and others hire people that can halfassed sing then as with ARK they have more computer techs than musicians running them through ableton/flstudio and compression to make them halfassed acceptable then they buy songs at 100 dollars a pop, hell ARK Even advertises on craigslist for songwriters they pay 100 dollars per song or "poem" to give the "artist" which is the wrong term for it something to sing.
pop music today is pure canned crap pretty much. Companies like ARK music factory is just an overcomplicated 419 Nigerian scam... don't believe me go read up on them , they are ran by a nigerian who used to run 419 scams.
And he is now turned his scamming on the music industry


If people injoy the end result its not necacerly an issue so long as people reolize that the people to be credited with the making of the music are the enganears and producers not the person "singing".

for example say I wrote a computer program that just randomely produces music that happens to be satisfying or makes it so that annyone pushing buttons randomely or with very littel skill can prodcue satisfying music . i dont see why that would be a bad thing or why it should not be listend to or enjoyed.


I think if anything ark music factory just show how the money making aspect is tied more into exsternal factors and not nececcerly tied into the music directly.

I got the impresoin that ark music factory were prity up front with the fact that they simply produce music for people that want to pay for it regardless of there tallent. I dont get the impressoin that they are telling people that they will make it big and ritch from the music as if its an investment maby they do ?


The biggest issue with modern music is Radio , tv , film and advertising forcing me to listen to music that I don't want to listen to and worse than that they play things repeatedly over and over. its as if i was to flash a light of a specifc colour in your face all the time its just plane anoying.

yea this is horrible, "canned" new pop is really an embarrassment on the music industry.

Companies like ARK music factory <- wikipedia them
and others hire people that can halfassed sing then as with ARK they have more computer techs than musicians running them through ableton/flstudio and compression to make them halfassed acceptable then they buy songs at 100 dollars a pop, hell ARK Even advertises on craigslist for songwriters they pay 100 dollars per song or "poem" to give the "artist" which is the wrong term for it something to sing.

pop music today is pure canned crap pretty much. Companies like ARK music factory is just an overcomplicated 419 Nigerian scam... don't believe me go read up on them , they are ran by a nigerian who used to run 419 scams.

And he is now turned his scamming on the music industry

>> ^noims:

Earworm's incredible, but recently he's been cramming as many tracks into the one song as he could. It's an amazing demonstration of skill...


not really. most pop music is in the same key and approximate tempo and ableton syncs everything for you.