so what did the mortician have to do to his body to keep it in that pose?
metal rod in his neck ?

oh, and the pallbearers would have to be some HUGE FRIGGIN GUYs...

To me, Christmas is as mundane as Halloween, and Thanksgiving. But that doesn't mean I do not enjoy these holidays, I enjoy them more so because they are mundane.

A good person told me a story: at morticians college they told him the only reason we do this sort of thing, is because it makes the living feel better, because the dead could care less, if they could care at all. (I added some embellishment.)

What I mean is enjoy the good times while they come, live every good time while it lasts. Fuck the rest.

>> ^imstellar28:
^wazant:
>>What do you mean by freedom? In what way are you being oppressed right now? I suppose you mean that taxes are oppressing you now and freedom is what you get when you pay no taxes.

freedom: the power to exercise choice and make decisions without constraint from within or without; autonomy; self-determination. exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc. yes taxes are a form of oppression. how can you possibly argue otherwise?
i can sit here and try to beat this idea into your head for hours, but what would really be easier would be for you to research it yourself. why don't you go read some books about both sides of the argument: socialism, free market capitalism, altruism, and objectivism and then decide for yourself? maybe you have already done this, but from your post, i can't imagine this is true. there is nothing more fatal to ignorance than reading books that contradict your viewpoint.
but for the sake of argument lets ignore taxes, lets take an abbreviated look at how "free" i am:
1. you are not free to choose what you put in or on your own body: unless it is an FDA approved food or drug--even if they are legal and beneficial abroad,
2. you are not free to buy an automobile without seatbelts, or in many states, choose whether you wear a seat belt or a helmet on a motorcycle.
3. you are not free to enter any occupation, engage in any business enterprise, or buy or sell from anyone else: example being you cannot offer your services as a lawyer, physician, dentist, plumber, barber, or mortician without obtaining a permit from a governmental official.
4. you are not free to work over-time at terms mutually agreeable to you and your employer, unless the terms conform to rules and regulations laid down by a government official. nor are you free to work at a price both you and your employer find reasonable, unless this price conforms with federal minimum wage law.
5. you are not free to set up a bank, go into the taxicab business, or the business of selling electricity or telephone service, or running a railroad, busline, or airline, without first receiving permission from a government official.
6. you are not free to fish, hunt, or otherwise obtain food for your survival without a permit from a governmental official.
7. you are not free to drive your car or fly your plane, without a license from a government official.
8. you are not free to even be born without governmental involvement as you must obtain a social security number and birth certificate in order to sustain yourself with employment in the united states
9. you are not free to engage in sex in positions and/or configurations you deem appropriate, nor are you free to marry someone who is of the gender you choose.
the size of this list is only limited by the time one has to type out examples. you can argue for/against the merit of any of these restrictions, but you cannot argue that they are not restrictions. there are precious few things you can do without the permission of the government.


You're REALLY grasping for straws here. Of all the things to say you're not "free" to do, you picked some really shitty ones. No, you can't get a fucking car and drive it around without a license. That way you (or some fucking teenager) doesn't get in a car and kill your mom doing 60 in a residential area.

No, you can't operate a fucking airline without approval from the government because no one wants to board a plane that hasn't been inspected being piloted by a drunk with no training so they can all die a fiery death immediately after take off.

No, you can't be an electrician without a license because no one wants to hire someone to perform an electrical installation to have it short out and cause their house to burn down because the "electrician" didn't know shit about the NEC.

Yes, I can argue all damn day about this absolutely asinine list of yours.

But there are things you most certainly CAN do without permission of the government.

1)Speak your mind freely
2)Worship any god, deity, mythical horned creature, ball of pasta or any other thing you wish
3)Own a rifle
4)Vote your own leaders into office
5)Write whatever you want in any publication you want

to name a few.

You say that Americans aren't free?

Go fucking live in China, then maybe you'll appreciate what it means to be free.

^wazant:
>>What do you mean by freedom? In what way are you being oppressed right now? I suppose you mean that taxes are oppressing you now and freedom is what you get when you pay no taxes.


freedom: the power to exercise choice and make decisions without constraint from within or without; autonomy; self-determination. exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc. yes taxes are a form of oppression. how can you possibly argue otherwise?

i can sit here and try to beat this idea into your head for hours, but what would really be easier would be for you to research it yourself. why don't you go read some books about both sides of the argument: socialism, free market capitalism, altruism, and objectivism and then decide for yourself? maybe you have already done this, but from your post, i can't imagine this is true. there is nothing more fatal to ignorance than reading books that contradict your viewpoint.

but for the sake of argument lets ignore taxes, lets take an abbreviated look at how "free" i am:

1. you are not free to choose what you put in or on your own body: unless it is an FDA approved food or drug--even if they are legal and beneficial abroad,
2. you are not free to buy an automobile without seatbelts, or in many states, choose whether you wear a seat belt or a helmet on a motorcycle.
3. you are not free to enter any occupation, engage in any business enterprise, or buy or sell from anyone else: example being you cannot offer your services as a lawyer, physician, dentist, plumber, barber, or mortician without obtaining a permit from a governmental official.
4. you are not free to work over-time at terms mutually agreeable to you and your employer, unless the terms conform to rules and regulations laid down by a government official. nor are you free to work at a price both you and your employer find reasonable, unless this price conforms with federal minimum wage law.
5. you are not free to set up a bank, go into the taxicab business, or the business of selling electricity or telephone service, or running a railroad, busline, or airline, without first receiving permission from a government official.
6. you are not free to fish, hunt, or otherwise obtain food for your survival without a permit from a governmental official.
7. you are not free to drive your car or fly your plane, without a license from a government official.
8. you are not free to even be born without governmental involvement as you must obtain a social security number and birth certificate in order to sustain yourself with employment in the united states
9. you are not free to engage in sex in positions and/or configurations you deem appropriate, nor are you free to marry someone who is of the gender you choose.

the size of this list is only limited by the time one has to type out examples. you can argue for/against the merit of any of these restrictions, but you cannot argue that they are not restrictions. there are precious few things you can do without the permission of the government.

In the future, all female morticians/scientists will wear midriff-revealing shirts!

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GG_Allin

At his funeral, Allin's bloated, discolored corpse was dressed in his black leather jacket and trademark jock strap. He had a bottle of Jim Beam beside him in his casket, as per his wishes (openly stated in his self-penned acoustic country ballad, "When I Die"). As part of his brother's request, the mortician was instructed not to wash the corpse, (which smelled strongly of feces), or apply any make up. The funeral became a wild party. Friends posed with the corpse, put drugs and whiskey into its mouth, and pulled down the jock strap to take pictures of Allin's penis. As the funeral ended, his brother put a pair of headphones on Allin. The headphones were plugged into a portable cassette player, in which was loaded a copy of The Suicide Sessions. The video of his funeral is widely available for purchase, and is an extra feature on the Hated DVD and some bootleg VHS tapes.