Funny how shit like this never works on people who you haven't had time to indoctrinate... One thing about his statement at the end that because those guys at the other dojo were trained athletes they wouldn't be susceptible to his bullshit: uh... then why are your own trainees so much MORE susceptible? If anything, I would say that going to your dojo makes you WEAKER by making you susceptible to some bullshit energy punch that doesn't seem to affect other trained martial artists...

It's not so much that they're breaking the objects is more the fact that the objects are not breaking them in return. These men have conditioned their bodies to the point that thier hands and feet are more like sledgehammers. It's a horrible price to pay, as you lose all the finer motor functions your hand was once capable of, but it is definitely possible to turn your hands and feet into very capable weapons.

This is definitely a demonstration of a "hard" style, emphasizing direct, powerful striking attacks. Kung Fu is more of a fluid "soft" style, though it has so many variations that it's difficult to make any sweeping generalizations and be 100% accurate.

I watched it a couple times and it all looks real enough to me. I've certainly seen more extreme examples of any of the breaks seen here. The important thing to remember with many of the examples is the spacers between the objects. With a kick like the first one, the martial artist only has to break two of those blocks of ice with a basic stomping kick. The force of his kick will easily carry through into the blocks below. It causes a very impressive chain reaction, but in terms of actual effort he may as well had just the first two blocks.

"Ive been there twice, Ive done two tours...[sic] "

....seriously chuck ?
Tell that to the guys lieing in the fucking VA hospitals who are missing limbs, lets see how sympathetic they are to your political views.

You've done two tours....that's fucking disgusting that he even puts himself at that level.

Hes a goddamn C grade actor and washup martial artist, you haven't done a goddamn thing you moron.

Sadly, I know what he is talking about first hand.

Only I was old enough to defend my self.

Laura, there are some situations that a person cannot in any way defend themselves physically, with out the use of a weapon.

A Black belt:

Yudansha is a honor that denotes the martial artists length of training, not necessarily their skill.

If it is the UK I am simultaneously proud of the martial artist, and ashamed of the need for him to display his martial arts.

You never really win those fights though. I'll bet you he had some windows broken within the week and there are enough cases where they'd be a crowd behind him with knives in their pockets ready to do something stupid. Then again, what can you do when they're literally on your doorstep?

Let the trainee decide what is right for them.

We do this style because we want to, not because there is money involved.

You have to train in an art to understand it, and its all about finding the right school. I advocate Cross training, but I am just a 6th kyu.

In reply to this comment by chilaxe:
Thanks for taking my questioning in good spirit; I do agree with you guys on a number of points.


If there are any videos of Aikido applied in real situations, not just collusion sped up, I would be interested in seeing them. I searched for Tomiki Aikido and just found YouTube videos that are collusive or not resembling realistic struggle (e.g., e.g.2), which is fine, but just not what I'm looking for.

After the first UFCs, we didn't have to just take on faith the claims of different martial arts. The result was generally that in a 1 on 1 fight, an unarmed combatant not trained to defend against take downs and submissions was relatively powerless (sometimes humorously so) against the ground game of brazilian ju-jitu. Since then, strikers have become more well-rounded in that respect and have been more successful.

The claims that non-collusive sparring can't be done using Aikido without hurting the opponent too badly can be tested easily against a mixed martial artist willing to risk broken arms, wrists, fingers etc. (he won't think it's much of a risk). I believe this issue is only going to grow, as mixed martial arts is growing rapidly, with viewership of the monthly UFC events eclipsing boxing and sometimes even baseball viewership among the under 40 generation.


Isn't it a good cause to encourage Aikido to back up its claims, or to utilize more realistic sparring? UFC champs become millionaires, so there does seem to be ample incentive to participate.

Thanks again; I understand you guys are very experienced, so I have found your responses interesting.

Thanks for taking my questioning in good spirit; I do agree with you guys on a number of points.


If there are any videos of Aikido applied in real situations, not just collusion sped up, I would be interested in seeing them. I searched for Tomiki Aikido and just found YouTube videos that are collusive or not resembling realistic struggle (e.g., e.g.2), which is fine, but just not what I'm looking for.

After the first UFCs, we didn't have to just take on faith the claims of different martial arts. The result was generally that in a 1 on 1 fight, an unarmed combatant not trained to defend against take downs and submissions was relatively powerless (sometimes humorously so) against the ground game of brazilian ju-jitu. Since then, strikers have become more well-rounded in that respect and have been more successful.

The claims that non-collusive sparring can't be done using Aikido without hurting the opponent too badly can be tested easily against a mixed martial artist willing to risk broken arms, wrists, fingers etc. (he won't think it's much of a risk). I believe this issue is only going to grow, as mixed martial arts is growing rapidly, with viewership of the monthly UFC events eclipsing boxing and sometimes even baseball viewership among the under 40 generation.


Isn't it a good cause to encourage Aikido to back up its claims, or to utilize more realistic sparring? UFC champs become millionaires, so there does seem to be ample incentive to participate.

Thanks again; I understand you guys are very experienced, so I have found your responses interesting.

Downvote, because just like with dancing, fake martial arts only looks good or funny when done by real martial artists, or at least comedians.

Appreciating the intelligent reponses in my defense here, so to counterbalance those, MORE QM.

BECAUSE he had a knife and NOT a gun, only ONE person was killed, he wasn't able to shoot through the windows at people, he could be easily contained, couldn't shoot people as they exited the bus. etc. You've instead showed how much LESS dangerous knives are compared to guns. One is a close range, limited damage area weapon, the other can kill people at a distance.

You're somewhat correct. I should've been more precise regarding who would have a gun, the baddie or citizens. It could've been both who had guns, instead it was none. In the time frame the kook killed one victim he could just as easily stabbed 5 or 6 more people, blended in with the panicked passengers, gotten off the bus and stabbed even more people (knives don't jam). Bladed weapons are the worst...faced with such a kook the most trained martial artists would engage in "Run Fu" if they could.

I'm less concerned about the weapons involved than the complete and utter lack of martial spirit in that society.

I agree with those who think the victim really had no chance. Even if it was some kind of magical holodeck simulation where the interviewed kid would be back in the same place knowing of the impending attack, I doubt he or 99% of human beings would have the skills and speed to stop such an assault.

And to try and suggest that the death penalty is the best thing here... bravo sir. That's the way to solve everything, kill the baddies. I'm sure you'd like them to have shot him on the spot wouldn't you? So then we could have no idea of understanding why this happened or how we can prevent such things happening again.

It would have been great had the killer raised his knife to the cops and been blown away. Whether or not he was mentally ill, he would've been removed from the gene pool for the betterment of all.

If he's ruled competent and goes to court, his actions would certainly merit the death penalty, which is punishment, not vengeance.

If he's criminally insane, he and we would also be better off putting him to sleep. Use the "freebie" to test the equipment (joking...I think).

Mercy for the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.

I should warn you, the kia'ing(all that shouting they do) might get a bit annoying after a while(along with people near the camera feeling the need to shout out aswell)

A few bits of info about some of the martial artists:

18 - Chloe Bruce - been on UK TV a couple of times. I think she was also a stunt double for J'Lo in the pepsi advert with beyonce.

11 - Sammy Vasquez - Tragically, may have been the first person to ever die due to injuries sustained in an MMA fight.

10 - Steve Terada - was the guy in the fight scene at the start of the Black Eye Peas video 'Pump It'

4 - Craig Hennigsen - If you watch AGT, he's part of the sideswipe team that got to the semi finals, maybe even the finals, not too sure whe they got to(he was the one who injured his ankle in the previous series)

I see sankyo, yonkyo, nikkyo, and kotegaeshi. These technique work on opponents stupid enough to be in your circle.

They work good on people who are angry uncontrolled and all around not trained attackers.

They do work in barfights, because drunks are easy to give a beating to.

Ill reiterate this, these techniques work, because they have been around since the samurai. The advent of the gun nullified the need to train regularly in this sort of fighting because it keeps your enemy at a distance (Last Samurai). But the same principles behind hand to hand and weapons can be used with firearms.

Haiuchi(mutual destruction - any one speaks Japanese please tell me if that's the right word) still happens even with firearms. The majority of the shootouts that took place in wild west were done up close with hands on gun and tussling.

We could argue all day about this, and we could go this way, that way. But no one in this world can prove to me that they can be sure that they can kick any one's ass in a situation akin to this. We cannot be certain that we will prevail, that is the main reason martial artists say try to run away.

But if the victim will fight them then that person had better fight them with every ounce of life they have in them, because it comes down to life and death.

What I just saw there, in the US would have been three counts of assault, aggravated assault (for kicking the guy on the ground) and attempted murder(for not helping the guy on the ground).

In the US a security guard after hurting some one is immediately attempt apply first response. So if a guard shoots you, in the US, and then starts first aid on you, that person is doing their jobs. If they fail to, they may very well go to jail for it.

As for martial arts? I saw none in their, all I saw was some bullshit brawling. Martial Artists usually don't get into shit like this, unless you mean that MMA sports stuff.

I didn't even see any Russia Systema in there.

HOWEVER: What was that kid thinking punching the guard ... lol

What an aware and alert martial artist she is. lol

"Even Mr. Miagi couldn't do it all together. You won't find a single martial artist that does. It's impossible."

Reeeally? Do yuh think?

That's what I was saying.

qualm: Even Mr. Miagi couldn't do it all together. You won't find a single martial artist that does. It's impossible.

CP420: The bricks need somewhere to go when they are forced down. Doing all six at once would be the equivalent of trying to break a single foot-thick piece.