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Well said and I agree. >> ^spoco2:

Wow... I... um... am going to agree with @quantumushroom, that's pretty amazing.
Sex is not wrong in any way, filming or photographing it is not wrong. What mainstream porn has become IS FUCKING wrong. It's absolutely disgusting what passes for adult entertainment now. QM says it's dehumanizing, and he's fucking right. Porn has become a competition about how much can we treat a woman like a fuck toy, like an object, how much punishment will she take.
It's fucking horrible and disgusting. I hate it. My wife and I used to watch porn together sometimes, but then she went through a point of just not being able to link having a daughter and what happens to the women in porn videos.
And as much as I would like to say 'Yeah, but it's not all like that, there is caring, sweet porn. There is female centric porn, there is porn that is hot and heavy but still respects the woman.' But you know what? There's fuck all. There really isn't. Everything is all now gagging the woman with a cock, pulling her mouth open with fingers, getting the women to spit into each other's mouths, cock slapping, hard ramming... and on and on and on... It's horrible. It's NOT what sex is, it's NOT how you have a wonderful time with a woman.
And yet it creates a generation of men who think that's how you treat women.
The fact that this site should even have a reason to exist is horrible. Horrible.

And sure, she's saying that her videos are about sexual expression for her, but you hear that all the time from women while they're still making films. Because men want to imagine that the woman they're watching fuck while they jerk off is actually really enjoying puking because a dick was pushed too far down her throat.
But you know what? They pretty much all say the opposite once they're not making money from it any more.
So, yeah, nothing wrong with painting naked women, nothing wrong with painting naked women who act in porn movies... but porn movies aren't as harmless as people make out.

Wow... I... um... am going to agree with @quantumushroom, that's pretty amazing.

Sex is not wrong in any way, filming or photographing it is not wrong. What mainstream porn has become IS FUCKING wrong. It's absolutely disgusting what passes for adult entertainment now. QM says it's dehumanizing, and he's fucking right. Porn has become a competition about how much can we treat a woman like a fuck toy, like an object, how much punishment will she take.

It's fucking horrible and disgusting. I hate it. My wife and I used to watch porn together sometimes, but then she went through a point of just not being able to link having a daughter and what happens to the women in porn videos.

And as much as I would like to say 'Yeah, but it's not all like that, there is caring, sweet porn. There is female centric porn, there is porn that is hot and heavy but still respects the woman.' But you know what? There's fuck all. There really isn't. Everything is all now gagging the woman with a cock, pulling her mouth open with fingers, getting the women to spit into each other's mouths, cock slapping, hard ramming... and on and on and on... It's horrible. It's NOT what sex is, it's NOT how you have a wonderful time with a woman.

And yet it creates a generation of men who think that's how you treat women.

The fact that this site should even have a reason to exist is horrible. Horrible.


And sure, she's saying that her videos are about sexual expression for her, but you hear that all the time from women while they're still making films. Because men want to imagine that the woman they're watching fuck while they jerk off is actually really enjoying puking because a dick was pushed too far down her throat.

But you know what? They pretty much all say the opposite once they're not making money from it any more.

So, yeah, nothing wrong with painting naked women, nothing wrong with painting naked women who act in porn movies... but porn movies aren't as harmless as people make out.

Wow, THAT was awesome. It takes a pretty good film maker in my opinion to make you feel for the characters in such a short amount of time. Hollywood makes films that are 2+ hours that don't pack half the punch that this does. Bravo.

>> ^MaxWilder:

Long, slow, boring, massive tangents, non-sensical jumps around in time, preachy, plotless... I could go on.
Look, I have no problem with people who want to make films like this, but as a lover of the traditional three act Hollywood style, I just want somebody to warn me! Do I have to memorize the director's names to see through the marketing hype? Or should I just assume that any film that wins an award at Cannes is something I should avoid?


Most people who see Malick's name knows the film may lean toward the philosophical, but TOL was by far his most abstract film to date. I loved it (for reasons mentioned above), and I don't typically like films without a classic 3 Act narrative.

Long, slow, boring, massive tangents, non-sensical jumps around in time, preachy, plotless... I could go on.

Look, I have no problem with people who want to make films like this, but as a lover of the traditional three act Hollywood style, I just want somebody to warn me! Do I have to memorize the director's names to see through the marketing hype? Or should I just assume that any film that wins an award at Cannes is something I should avoid?

>> ^tuco:

This guy seems a bit of the douche. He is actually an editor and only produced a few shows.... mostly shorts.


complete douche

In the end both directors had / have relitavly lots of money to allow them to spend time making films.

something that many film makers probably every bit as talented don't have.


I think you could argue leaving a story open and not tied off can be lazy rather than more artistic , It can go both ways. you can have a gr8 story film that's entertaining educational thorugh provicing and have it all tied up at the same time or not tied up at all.

I think one advantage of not trying things off so much is that if you have a intellectual audeance they will fill in the gaps and have a better exsperance than if you have a tied off film that dosent leve much to the imagination or its solution is simplistic.

Bwahaha! Burn!

In reply to this comment by NetRunner:
I only just saw your video. I'm touched that you made a special video just for me.

Shame it's not, like, creative or anything.

It's a good thing you don't make films for a living, otherwise you might be be terribly embarrassed.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Ah shit, NetRunnnahz, I'm sorry, dawg.

saying for the third time...i never said most men are dickheads, I said most men don't care about these issues. just like most people in general don't care about anything of value. and yes i am female so i care, and i will take some things more seriously than others, that's called being human. ...I guess you're just above everyone and you are an exception, but if you assume there are MANY more people like you, you are naive. (this includes women who often don't give a crap either) i fully realize things are the way they are because it is men in charge of these mediums, and that's fair enough, but it's a bit sad that the only creative thing that comes out of western culture (generally) are big hero masculine action movies, with like it was said, over the top female characters, while many other cultures blur the lines quite a bit (like miyazaki films) anyways...pretty silly to accuse me of being sexist since 90% of my friends are male...and 100% of my partners are male and you get the point...and once again...since you missed it three times, I did not call anyone sexist, you did.

>> ^yellowc:

You are sexist for generalising an entire gender to a 1 to 10 ratio of decent to dickheads based on a personal experience of a very limited pool of subjects, we can also tack on how that 90% is a mere joke. Excluding 10% of men in your great pile doesn't really balance it out. How about instead of grand statements of bullshit statistics you just leave all that out and focus on the actual point of your opinion? You did not just note "that I get harassed online", it was all the crap you added around it that I didn't appreciate. Also you don't need to use a word directly to imply it but whatever.
As you can see, I voted for this video. I only had issue with your tone. As for my point, it was merely that more people (female or male) who which to change the status quo of story telling, need to aspire to hold positions where they can make those changes. Though however that does not make the current crop a problem, they do not need to express what you feel if they don't please. The fact that the gross majority of stories do not involve a female lead is not the REAL issue and attacking at this level will change nothing in my opinion. I'll have to say I think your message changed in between posts but it's possible I've misunderstood your initial post.
Again I'll ask you please drop the generalisations. In fact I will correct you, I have many times discussed with my mates the subject of female history and the subjects that extend from that, it may give you a heart attack but there are men out there who can have intellectual conversations on a broad range of topics. I personally am a strong supporter of equality, though a part of equality is remembering not to make the same mistakes that were done to you.

<div><div style="margin: 10px; overflow: auto; width: 80%; float: left; position: relative;" class="convoPiece"> yourhydra said:<img style="margin: 4px 10px 10px; float: left; width: 40px;" src="http://static1.videosift.com/avatars/y/yourhydra-s.jpg" onerror="ph(this)"><div style="position: absolute; margin-left: 52px; padding-top: 1px; font-size: 10px;" class="commentarrow">◄</div><div style="padding: 8px; margin-left: 60px; margin-top: 2px; min-height: 30px;" class="nestedComment box">This is a very typical "male victim" response. Maybe you should read things more carefully. Did I not say many guys online are great? How am I sexist for noting that I get harassed online for being a female? And of course you can make films about whatever you want...so it's just a coincidence that MOST films and games are men rescuing women, and not the opposite? I really don't understand the logic behind your argument. ALSO I didn't say any story with a damsel is sexist...all I was unhappy with was people criticizing this video for pointing out a truth about gaming story lines. I didn't even use the word sexist lol. Look who played that card. Anyways...yes I did say "most guys" only in relation to caring about these issues...because...well I've been alive for a while and that has been my experience. Correct me, but do you ever chill with your mates and discuss the struggle of the suffragettes, or unequal work pay...or how more young girls go missing around the world in one year than in all the 20th century wars combined? I doubt it.
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You are sexist for generalising an entire gender to a 1 to 10 ratio of decent to dickheads based on a personal experience of a very limited pool of subjects, we can also tack on how that 90% is a mere joke. Excluding 10% of men in your great pile doesn't really balance it out. How about instead of grand statements of bullshit statistics you just leave all that out and focus on the actual point of your opinion? You did not just note "that I get harassed online", it was all the crap you added around it that I didn't appreciate. Also you don't need to use a word directly to imply it but whatever.

As you can see, I voted for this video. I only had issue with your tone. As for my point, it was merely that more people (female or male) who which to change the status quo of story telling, need to aspire to hold positions where they can make those changes. Though however that does not make the current crop a problem, they do not need to express what you feel if they don't please. The fact that the gross majority of stories do not involve a female lead is not the REAL issue and attacking at this level will change nothing in my opinion. I'll have to say I think your message changed in between posts but it's possible I've misunderstood your initial post.

Again I'll ask you please drop the generalisations. In fact I will correct you, I have many times discussed with my mates the subject of female history and the subjects that extend from that, it may give you a heart attack but there are men out there who can have intellectual conversations on a broad range of topics. I personally am a strong supporter of equality, though a part of equality is remembering not to make the same mistakes that were done to you.

>> ^yourhydra:

This is a very typical "male victim" response. Maybe you should read things more carefully. Did I not say many guys online are great? How am I sexist for noting that I get harassed online for being a female? And of course you can make films about whatever you want...so it's just a coincidence that MOST films and games are men rescuing women, and not the opposite? I really don't understand the logic behind your argument. ALSO I didn't say any story with a damsel is sexist...all I was unhappy with was people criticizing this video for pointing out a truth about gaming story lines. I didn't even use the word sexist lol. Look who played that card. Anyways...yes I did say "most guys" only in relation to caring about these issues...because...well I've been alive for a while and that has been my experience. Correct me, but do you ever chill with your mates and discuss the struggle of the suffragettes, or unequal work pay...or how more young girls go missing around the world in one year than in all the 20th century wars combined? I doubt it.

This is a very typical "male victim" response. Maybe you should read things more carefully. Did I not say many guys online are great? How am I sexist for noting that I get harassed online for being a female? And of course you can make films about whatever you want...so it's just a coincidence that MOST films and games are men rescuing women, and not the opposite? I really don't understand the logic behind your argument. ALSO I didn't say any story with a damsel is sexist...all I was unhappy with was people criticizing this video for pointing out a truth about gaming story lines. I didn't even use the word sexist lol. Look who played that card. Anyways...yes I did say "most guys" only in relation to caring about these issues...because...well I've been alive for a while and that has been my experience. Correct me, but do you ever chill with your mates and discuss the struggle of the suffragettes, or unequal work pay...or how more young girls go missing around the world in one year than in all the 20th century wars combined? I doubt it.

>> ^yellowc:

So...if a director wants to specifically tell a story about a young boy rescuing a young girl they have to go "Oh wait, I better not tell this story, it's fucking sexist"? You see this is equally ludicrous, so is the notion that for every "boy saves girl" story, the world needs to make a "girl saves boy" story. When a director wants to tell a story of a female lead, they will do that (e.g. Bayonetta, Samsus, Heavy Rain), the rarity of this occurrence doesn't mean that "damsel in distress" stories are sexist, it means not enough people with a different story to tell aspire to be game directors.
It's also laughable (and sexist) to lump "most guys" in to a generic stereotypical group but thanks, it's great being just a "guy", I feel super equal right now, that must be better than regular equality.

<div><div style="margin: 10px; overflow: auto; width: 80%; float: left; position: relative;" class="convoPiece"> yourhydra said:<img style="margin: 4px 10px 10px; float: left; width: 40px;" src="http://static1.videosift.com/avatars/y/yourhydra-s.jpg" onerror="ph(this)"><div style="position: absolute; margin-left: 52px; padding-top: 1px; font-size: 10px;" class="commentarrow">◄</div><div style="padding: 8px; margin-left: 60px; margin-top: 2px; min-height: 30px;" class="nestedComment box">ForgeReality...maybe the video's main point wasn't to be funny? And ponceleon...it's the fact that they made the girl be blind and guided by a man that is annoying, instead of doing it the other way around.
It's almost laughable how dense most guys are when it comes to these issues since it doesn't concern them. I play loads of online games and love it, and there are many lovely guys on there that I've made lasting friendships with...at the same time...per one nice guy (meaning a man who knows that a girl is a capable HUMAN not a baby oven with tits) there are 10 douche bags telling me I'm gonna suck, and being rude and sexist towards me...(shutting up as soon as I reach top 3 on the scoreboard by the way) I agree with this vid 100%. MOST games and movies have damsels in distress and male heroes rescuing them, just another way for the male public to feel big. Most strands of Feminism's aren't about female superiority by the way, but about equality, I feel the word itself has been tainted to be shuddered at.
"Feminism is the radical notion that women are people." -Cheris Kramarae and Paula Treichler
"In my heart, I think a woman has two choices: either she's a feminist or a masochist."
—Gloria Steinem
Sorry to get all insulted and serious, but...people should think a little more, we do make up more than half of the population.
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>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

>> ^Tymbrwulf:
Majority of the women I know would only watch movies as entertainment occasionally and don't really call themselves "movie buffs." If you think there is an untapped "movie buff" in the female world you would think the movie industry would attempt to tap into it? (Chick flicks?)


Wow.. are you trollin' Tymbie? Or just thick?
Cause if you can't find the faults in that statement. I think you should immediately take some critical thinking classes.
Have you ever wondered why most women you know don't consider themselves "movie buffs"?
Female 1: "Hey the new Comic Book/Action/Eddie Murphy Comedy movie is out."
Female 2: "Fuck yes! I've been dyin' to see gratuitous explosions/shoot-outs/prosthetic fat all year!!"
And then, like some marketing executive from the 60s, you have gall to suggest that female movie enthusiasts truly crave to be spoon fed stereotypical bastardized depictions of themselves in films.
~~ written by @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/BoneyD" title="member since July 7th, 2006" class="profilelink">BoneyD - A lot of chick flicks would fail the Bechdel Test as well, btw...
Like real world women all are desperate love-obsessed delicate lilies that: need to reunite with their sisters and babble about romanticism. Or find a rich man so they can stop whoring themselves. Or reunite with their "mature" party slut friends and babble about sex.
I bet female movie goers find those films ultra empowering! =D
And on top of all that - deep breath - "chicks flicks" don't even begin to scratch even the bottom of any list or review of the most popular movies.
So what have we learned?
- Realistically relatable females aren't depicted in mainstream media.
- The niche genre for females depicts them as clueless whiny emo kids hoping some stronger, usually male, character saves them from their shitty situation/themselves.
- You find that's perfectly normal and don't see an reason why younger females shouldn't be raised to expect the same.


I agree in a number of ways with you regarding the way women are depicted in a majority of modern movies. However, the part that I think there are two big factors here that are being overlooked by you and by women who argue for more "realistic and substantive" roles for women in movies. First and foremost in my opinion at least is the fact that making movies is all about making money (again looking to the majority here, indie films are somewhat of an exception to this but then I think you'd agree that they are also largely an exception to this Bechdel Test). Since it's about making money, the unfortunate truth is that the majority of the target market for films these days is men, and what most of them want is the same mindless, formulaic story over and over again. If making films was primarily about telling a good, detailed and deeply thought provoking story, I think things would be very different. This just doesn't sell on a large scale and you'd have one hell of a time convincing the film studios of the world to begin shooting films for the artistic appeal and forget about the financial aspect.

On a bit of a side note to your point below,

"Like real world women all are desperate love-obsessed delicate lilies that: need to reunite with their sisters and babble about romanticism. Or find a rich man so they can stop whoring themselves. Or reunite with their "mature" party slut friends and babble about sex."

I agree that this is a very unrealistic depiction of real women. I would also contend that real men don't drive cars off ramps onto moving boats, or shoot anything that moves, or smoothly sweep any attractive woman off their feet with a few suave words. That is however, the image of men in the movies and I'd wager that it's not only the male population of moviegoers that enjoys seeing men depicted that way. And that's why it continues to sell...

My advice is... stick to indies.

>> ^Simple_Man:
I'd love to see a video or documentary on stunt horses. How people get them to do half the things they do, without hurting the horses, is beyond my understanding.



I promise you that at least 2 horses were killed during the making of this.You can tell how they tie rope to there front feet to get them to flip like that just watch from the 1 min mark on and watch the horses front legs you can see the ropes.(breaking legs and necks like they were using another prop car)
I also remember reading somewhere that sometime before the making of braveheart there were international laws put into place to make film makers stop using real horses to do stunts, if they want to do a horse flip scene the have to use a dummy horse.

Im no horse activist i grew up on a horse farm and i HATE horses, but i dont hate them enof to watch them get abused like this.

I really don't get all the criticism of Avatar. No, the plot wasn't original. Avatar just offered an unoriginal narrative better than it's predecessors.

This concept of 'white guilt' is intriguing to me. Railing against a film for supposedly rehashing that white guilt even moreso. Native Americans WERE almost wiped out by (exclusively) white folks interested in land and resources. This is not to say you should feel guilty today - but it does make me wonder why discussing it (or including it in a movie plot) should be so taboo. Don't be so sensitive. (As an aside, this kind of resource grabbing at the expense of native populations continues to this day.)

How dare Cameron make a film we don't all love. The audacity! How dare Cameron portray unbridled greed and environmental destruction in a negative light. What an asshole! What gives him the right to make films I am not obligated to watch?!?!? How dare he not make a perfect film! Doesn't he know we have all made such a huge emotional investment in him since Aliens/T2/The Abyss that we expect nothing less than perfection from him?!?

Avatar rocked. That's just the way it is folks.

>> ^aspartam:
Hey jackass, did you watch The Cove yet? Do it before you make yourself look any dumber than you already have.
>> ^westy:
[...] Fact is the whalers are doing this for a living and its been in there culture for a long time



Watched the documentary and well 60% of it was over emotional bullshit.
the whole thing could have been edited into a 45 min documentary that included mostly factual information and maby a tiny bit of emotional bullshit to get that "crowd" interested and then some footage to drive the story and keep things interesting.

also if they were truly trying to get the information out there they would do a youtube edit that included the most factual information and interesting stuff so it would go viral.


The facts ( to spare people watching all the needless shit they included)

1) dolphin and whale meet has large quantity of mucuray in it
2) dolphin meet is been sold falsely as whale meet
3) Japanese are killing dolphins in mass for varouse bullshit reasons.

4) so far countries have not put enough political pressure on them to stop it
5) people in japan and the world in general are not particularly aware of it

Now What i said before still stands the reasons behind whaling and dolphin fishing are cultural and economic. Japanese don't want to be told what to do because of stupid national pride and they believe in bullshit whale meet making you healthy , and economically people are making a tun of money selling live dolphins for shows and illegally selling dead whales and dolphins as other meets.

Its also the case that USA and uk have fucked up the world far more and probably caused more problems and continue to do so for humans and for animals with what we do with oil and needless wars which has allowed Manny western countries to become strong economically. I'm not saying we should ignore the dolphin issue but its only a small component of something that we are quite likely more responsible of at home. I'm all for people making films like the documentary and protesting getting into government or putting pressure on the government. But im not for people spending a shit load of cash on a retarded boat that really will have fuck all affect.

although i agree dolphins are intelligent and have thought so for a long time the documentary instead of using science to demonstrate this falls back on emotional bullshit with only small segments that talk about the science , Evan though there is plenty of science proving the intelligence of dolphins , iv personal seen dolphin brains and you can see compared to other creatures why it is so likely that they are of high intelligence.


anny way , point is the SHitty boat they were trying to use to stop the whalers is an idoitic way of trying to stop it Evan the porely edited and badly put together documentry will have been infinatly more productive then there idoit 1.5milloin boat.

It still stands that ultimately these groups will only succeed by putting pressure on the government and educating people , not by attacking the issue directly with over priced bat mobile boats.



So in conclusion aspartam in this instance i would think its more likely that you are the "jack ass"