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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

That's absolutely not what he said. Your confusion is understandable, his position changes daily....

https://www.alreporter.com/2021/07/07/mo-brooks-ever-changing-jan-6-story/

He said due to warnings of violence (which must be the planned violence of Trump supporters, no other violent attacks were being planned according to the FBI) he didn't go home for days before Jan 6, not just one night, and because of warnings of planned violence (all of which were about TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE CROWD PLANNING VIOLENCE) he wore a bullet proof vest to Trump's rally where there were no Democrats at all. Sorry to introduce some facts...I know how they bother you.

He does not, like you, still try to blame Democrats for verified Trumptards being moronic terrorists, although he tried to and failed, then blamed radical right wing nutjobs including Trump, anyone but him was responsible.

....and all white supremacists are on Trump's team, every single one. The professional racists know which party supports them, we all know Bob. Your attempts to erase the southern strategy from history and pretend today's Republicans are still the party of Lincoln only make you dishonest, they don't convince anyone who's had any interactions with Republicans or Democrats in the last 50 years.

It had nothing to do with still being afraid because of the baseball shootings, he said he had credible warnings that Trump's crowd would get violent. There weren't Democrats at that pre-coup anti-America pro-hatred rally he spoke at, telling them to go “take names and kick ass”, the seething Trumptards would have lynched any they found, like they tried to do to police, reporters, representatives, and the Vice President.

But we all know facts don't matter a whit to you, you'll just make up some new brainless self serving lies and pretend they're the truth, like always. That's the problem with being a liar, bob, nothing you say matters because you're so incredibly untrustworthy and unapologetic when, invariably, your lies are proven false that no one even pays much attention, they just wait for the rebuttal to get some verifiable fact.

Truth isn't propaganda, bob, and I'm just reporting the truth....he admitted he knew Trump's crowd intended violence days ahead of time, not Democrats who had no plans for violence and in fact didn't cause any.

Rewrite history all you want for yourself, but anyone with an IQ over 75 sees that it leaves you as a lying, silly twat who denies reality in favor of sycophantic and blatant lies, like "Jan 6 was a BLM attack". If that were true, Republicans would be the ones pushing to investigate, to prove that attack was from Democrats, not trying to hinder and invalidate any investigation, even ones they run, for fear their involvement becomes public knowledge.

Bob, just admit you're a non English speaking troll paid by a foreign power to spread disinformation. If you aren't, you should be. It wouldn't change your posts by one letter, but you would get paid for your anti American divisive lies.

bobknight33 said:

The threats came to him day before his Jan 6 speech. Not from Trump supporters but from the Democrats, the true racist of America,

Brooks, what was at the June 14 shooting ( Nut bag Bernie sanders supporter ) during the practicing for a charity softball game in Washington DC.


Guess facts in contest don't matter for you.

Just admit your a propaganda tool. This fact is clear as day.

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luxintenebris jokingly says...

Irony abounds...

- The 'Freedom' or 'Government-shoving-it-down-our-throats' argument is killing them and their kin. The Brian Kilmeade[s] of the world are forcing their beliefs on others. Walking around with COVID is LITERALLY forcing your belief on others! What 'freedom' exists when your fellow Americas insist on being the 21st Typhoid Marys...or COVID Karens?

- The same stand-for-the-flag crowd are the ones carrying Confederate flags, and using American flag poles to kill Capitol police.

- They say they'd take a bullet for their country - but not a shot?

In any other situation, if the virus killed ONLY the unvaccinated, left others alone, then maybe it'd be a civil rights issue. It's not. (would test their resolve, and ours as how many morons would have to die before we'd drag them into the streets and give them the shots they needed)*

But Bob's mind is likely to change as Republican governors are now taking this seriously (not a political strategy). Think in MS and LA the red are moving to get their mutts fixed. Maybe, it'll get to the point you'd have to show a vaccine passport to use a public port-a-potty. Or the "Shot for the S**t of it" campaign. 'Tho BK's "Put a stand up at liquor store / grocery stores" is an insight to a Turd Reich supporter's mindset. Maybe throw beer bashing, get them drunk enough they'll accept the 'free tattoo' in the back room. Vaccinate the entire pound.

How did this happen? When following doddering old fools become the rage against the machine? Or a death cult become the flag-bearers of the 'Pary of Lincoln'? Less a party; more a wake. When did being paranoid become the drug of the masses? Was a time one would have to take a drug, listen to 'Paranoid' before ya' lost your f'n' mind! Now it's coffee and Tucker Carlson then they're seeing CIA agents in the shadows.

Shout out to the old days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qanF-91aJo


*yeah. I know. How would y'all work 'drag them into the street and shoot them' into the flow?

Seriously

geo321 says...

The Lincoln project group is loaded with old neo-cons, some war criminals of the past decades. They are corrupt hacks. Those tens of millions of dollars they collected to fight Trump somehow got siphoned off to pay themselves for the most part

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Mammaltron says...

Look, nobody has done more for incoherent nonsense than Donald Trump. And if you look - with the exception of Abraham Lincoln - possible exception, but the exception of Abraham Lincoln, nobody has done what he has done.

bobknight33 said:

[minor Biden stumble]

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SFOGuy says...

Here's the thing: what is the audience for this incredibly well made video? Because 94%+ of Republicans say they will vote for the President again.

Are the Lincoln folks trying to set up a future in which they were not the ones who went down with the Trump ship? (he's still even odds in Vegas to win the election)

I dunno. I enjoy the ads--but---I'm not sure who the audience is.

newtboy said:

I'm Donald Trump, and I disapprove this message.

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StukaFox says...

Ok, I like the Lincoln Project and I'm no fan of Trump, but this one isn't their best. It's too jump-the-shark, too heavy-handed. They could have delivered a lot more impact by delivering a lot less impact.

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cloudballoon says...

I wonder what these Republicans behind the Lincoln Project will do after November though, win or lose? They themselves made Trump a reality through a cumulative process of dividing and dumbing down America for decades. You think Trump is a freak show? No, it's their modern-day ideological standard bearing manifest, just magnified by a factor of 10. Some republicans just don't agree HOW Trump says things, not what he DOES. I don't see they can come up with a leader nearing worthy of bearing the mantle of the classic "GOP" of "Lincoln." It's been FUBAR.

You want for Fiscal Conservative & Social Liberals (nevermind whether you can really balance the two IRL with that much debt and social ills already)? Look elsewhere, it's not in the GOP.

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SFOGuy says...

The interesting question is: other than enraging the President from time to time, what is the Lincoln Project's goal? 85-90% of the Republican party is still behind Trump. I don't see them being swayed by Lincoln; Democrats already know what they are going to do in November--independents? Lincoln isn't doing mass TV buys---they just focus on markets where the President watches TV lol. So: bring to lay some claim to be conservatives who opposed the President to stake a role in the rebuilding of the Republican party after Trump? To claim a place at the table when Tucker Carlson becomes the 2024 Republican candidate?

What's their long-game goal?

newtboy (Member Profile)

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newtboy says...

I have read that Lee quote too. I think he meant any statues or monuments to the confederacy, but that's just my opinion.

I certainly see a distinction between imperfect but honorable men trying to do right and treasonous racists trying to found a nation rooted in the racist concept that ...."the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. "

I, for one, don't demand perfection from my heros, only honor, honesty, and empathy. Claiming other people are subhuman and naturally subordinate fails on all three counts.

I think it's important to evaluate the reasons many monuments were erected, in the case of confederate monuments it was done to oppose civil rights for non whites, install a permanent reminder of the pervasive racism the confederate was founded on, and to misrepresent history to minimize their ancestors treason.
In the case of the Lincoln emancipation monument, it was to celebrate finally officially recognizing the humanity of a large portion of the population. I would hope anyone bothered by it's depictions 1)understands the history of its creation (thanks for that) and 2)offers to replace it at their expense rather than demand its removal at taxpayer expense.

luxintenebris said:

have read a number of Lee descendants were okay w/removing his statues, too. by now, i'd hope, most folks know R.E.L. said statues weren't gonna be helpful.

“I think it wiser, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.”

of course, he was talking about a gettysburg memorial, so maybe he was reluctant to have a memorial at the site of his gravest error.

but the issue is like most things: complicated. like the lincoln emancipation memorial. get how the couchant slave is a downer, but the fact former slaves paid for its erection, the model for the slave was t.s. eliott grandpa's gardener, a former escaped slave, and is mohammed ali's direct ancestor - is kinda cool. maybe worth having around just to explain all the details around its history.

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luxintenebris says...

have read a number of Lee descendants were okay w/removing his statues, too. by now, i'd hope, most folks know R.E.L. said statues weren't gonna be helpful.

“I think it wiser, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.”

of course, he was talking about a gettysburg memorial, so maybe he was reluctant to have a memorial at the site of his gravest error.

but the issue is like most things: complicated. like the lincoln emancipation memorial. get how the couchant slave is a downer, but the fact former slaves paid for its erection, the model for the slave was t.s. eliott grandpa's gardener, a former escaped slave, and is mohammed ali's direct ancestor - is kinda cool. maybe worth having around just to explain all the details around its history.

newtboy said:

Actually it is my history. I was born and raised in Houston, and have blood ties to Lee.
I probably have some family that helped install the statues too.
I can't change that.

That doesn't mean in order to remember the war of Southern Secession (see what I did there?) I must celebrate it. Statues are for heros, the back pages of history books are for traitors.

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