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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You still seem very confused. I’m pissing on you con-y reds and waiving, not pissing into a red wave. WHAT!? (Funny you named your movement after deadly poisoned ocean conditions…red tides are horrific destructive deadly things, not something to aspire to. I’m shocked at the truth in advertising from your ilk.)

Red WAVE this time, eh? Just like the last red tsunami but smaller, right? ROTFLMFAHS!! You might consider stoping making predictions at some point….then again you’re always happiest when being 100% wrong.

MAGAmericans aren’t buying what Democrats are selling….truth, fact, verified statistics, actual plans on how to tackle issues….because they hate truth, fact, or plans because you just have none and it makes you jealous to hear. They aren’t Americans, they are anti American, anti democracy, worshipers of Putin Xi and lil Kim but absolutely not democratic leaders. Look at any Republican’s platform, it’s nothing but “I want to lower crime and fix the economy”, never HOW they plan to do so, just whining that they don’t like the only plan put forward, even when it’s the same plan they put forward before they balk and obstruct because now it’s Biden who might get credit if it helps. They certainly don’t want to look at WHEN violent crime/murder rates shot up, because Biden wasn’t president in 2020 when it happened. Same for the economy….don’t remember 2020, just think about how bad it is compared to 2015….Biden’s fault! Derp!

Without fraud, intimidation, and criminal hyper-partisan election workers Cons have no chance….but fraud, intimidation, interference, and misinformation are all you’ve got. No Con elected is elected “clean”, so they are all illegitimate.

That said, never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. At least 1/3 of the country are absolute braying morons that believe anything Tangerini Mousolini says, the question is how many rational people will go along with you for weakly promised future personal gains over country.

A reminder how Cons treat vets… https://videosift.com/video/Jon-Stewart-Reminds-You-That-The-Right-Abandons-Veterans

bobknight33 said:

You pissing into the RED wave and it does not matter.

Americans are not buying what Democrats are selling and will be reflected in todays vote.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You’re 1/2 right…we did have a leader, Obama, now we have a joke of an ex president who’s as unpresidential as possible and a whining, sniveling coward…but we do have a leader as president again. Sleepy Joe, kicking ass and taking names in his sleep! Wiped the floor with Dumb Donny.

America had an ex president that was a leader. Now we have an ex president that’s a bad joke. FTFY

This is what a leader looks like, Bob.
Not the privileged cowardly draft dodger who tried to blackmail Zelenskiy by withholding military aid during a Russian invasion and divided the nation irreparably, but the Ukrainian Jon Stewart who stayed and took up arms with his citizens uniting them against a super power.

This is a leader, Bob.

Now, look back at what the utter failure, traitorous Trump had to say about him when the blackmail attempt failed.
Or watch a leader lead….

https://videosift.com/video/We-will-find-every-bastard-Zelenskiy-Condemns-Russians

bobknight33 said:

America had a leader. Now we have a JOKE!

😧

Roasting all the billionaires going to space

Jon Stewart on How Paying Interns Made The Daily Show Better

cloudballoon says...

Jon Stewart passing the baton to Trevor Noah, that was a great move all around. As we also got Colbert & Bee their well established shows that are great in their own right. But Bee especially might have felt stung by not getting the TDS chair as she's definitely the most deserved among the senior correspondents at the show IMO. But that one extra win-wins for the audience.

Dave Chappelle Acceptance Speech | 2019 Mark Twain Prize

Dave Chappelle Acceptance Speech | 2019 Mark Twain Prize

Melania Slaps Down Giuliani. As Does Pompeo

MilkmanDan says...

OK, the actual statement made by Melania's camp (as seen on screen at 1:10):
"I don't believe Mrs. Trump has ever discussed her thoughts on anything with Mr. Giuliani."

That's a pretty significant nudge. To me, pretty clearly says "don't put words in my mouth". You can infer it as "don't put words in my mouth, you weaselly little prick", but the statement itself is pretty carefully reserved in the exact wording.

Newsworthy? Sure. But to me, I think a good journalist (and I'd usually include Anderson Cooper in that camp) should show the statement itself, without any opinion or commentary first, and then make a distinct segue showing that we're now moving into pundit's reactions and opinions.

The lead here was "First Lady Melania Trump's Office Fires Back at Rudy Giuliani Over His Remarks About Stormy Daniels". That just seems a bit clickbait-y to me. "Fires Back" requires reading between the lines of the statement itself. Accurate? Probably. But I think they should have honored the carefully worded nature of the actual statement and gone with something like ..."Responds to" instead of "Fires Back".

Furthermore, they should have kept the full text of the statement itself up on the screen during the whole reaction/opinion portion segment where Cooper and the other talking heads discuss things. By all means, discuss. I even mostly agree with their interpretations and take on the situation. But keep the text of the actual statement up so that viewers can decide for themselves.


The Daily Show with Jon Stewart was actually fantastic for hoisting people on their own petard by fairly and accurately showing their actual statements and reacting to them -- no bait and switch / obfuscation necessary. Stewart's kind of subtlety in pointing out contradictions and bullshit was awesome.

I guess I feel like the best response to Trump's "Fake News" shtick is to be doubly rigorous when it comes to journalistic integrity. Trump's gonna give you plenty of ammo to use against him. Use it, but do it in such a way that any allegations of bias or unfairness are clearly wrong.

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Colbert To Trump: 'Doing Nothing Is Cowardice'

ChaosEngine says...

And yet, gun laws DEMONSTRABLY work in other countries. There are plenty of other countries with high gun ownership rates (Canada, for instance), but nowhere outside the 3rd world has anything like the gun-related death rate of the US.

Meanwhile, you are caught up in some ridiculous fantasy where you save America from imaginary Hitler.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/6l4l6m/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-scapegoat-hunter---gun-control

edit: fine don't embed the video, then!

Tina Fey on Protesting After Charlottesville - SNL

Gratefulmom (Member Profile)

Jon Stewart Calls Out The Media Regarding Trump

poolcleaner says...

Nothing is ever simple. I'm just not properly explaining what I was saying -- Jon Stewart went off and did his public speaking, crowd organizing thing with this belief in something that he couldn't quite define. He lost his mojo, in a way, saw that he was naked, bereft of his staff. Any talking/figure head with a staff of writers or information feeders can be comparable to other leaders of a similar make up. Trump and Stewart are reality tv stars of a similar make up.

Dag suggested that the writers of the Daily Show are what created Jon Stewart as we know hom, and so I ran with the idea that he, like the figurehead and reality star, Donald Trump, are products of other people's opinions -- this, when left to their own devices, while successful entertainers, they realize the emperor's clothes are transparent and now they have to rely on their own smaller slice of knowledge. Not that Stewart is dumb, but Stewart without writers and correspondents, is a similar archetype to Trump. Stewart's writers and correspondents, including the man whose show he is on in this clip, are akin to the media that Donald Trump treats like his writing staff. But instead of leaving the Daily Show, Trump is leaving *most* of the media, revealing he is not as knowledgeable without his sources.

Anyway, I was following the logic as laid down by dag's logic for why Jon isn't as funny or put together. I also know that good leaders put themselves in other people's shoes before giving advice to other leaders. Stewart MUST do this because he is a decent figurehead, but Trump doesn't -- that's why the media questions him on what biographies he is reading; leaders are supposed to put themselves into their rivals AND heros shoes as a matter of critical self analysis -- so, Stewart is speaking to the media almost as if he is also putting himself in Trump's shoes and speaking about how his own writing staff and correspondent's left him and succeeded.

Stewart has a 4 year contract with HBO. He will have the structure and writing teams he needs. Trump should utilize the media, including books and newspapers, and follow the subtext Jon laid out here.

Edited for spelling, grammatical errs and additional context. Done editing.

SaNdMaN said:

Pretty simple. He's a bit out of his element, being on someone else's show, and he's a bit rusty, after quitting his show a year and a half ago.

Jon Stewart Calls Out The Media Regarding Trump

RT -- Chris Hedges on Media, Russia and Intelligence

bcglorf says...

I can't name any organisation anymore that seems to hit it consistently. Frontline is still pretty consistently good. The few print papers like NYTimes are more likely to host real journalists in amongst everything else needed to keep sales going.

Largely it's individuals, and they are running short. Some of the best access to news is stuff like Charlie Rose, and the Daily Show in Stewart's day when they would have on knowledgeable or important guests on air. Neither Charlie Rose, Jon Stewart or their guests counting strictly as journalists, but they provided great access to individuals with good or unique perspectives. Neil McDonald on CBC seems good at staying balanced, one of the few names I can throw out as having a real journalistic credibility.

For the most part though, news paper journalism seems dead. The best sources of information on subjects seems to have become relegated to authors of old fashion books. There you can still find guys like Peter Galbraith writing good insightful and informed stuff.

And of course, the late Christopher Hitchens, now you've gone and made me sad...

eric3579 said:

I would be interested in a handful of names of who you think qualify in this way. Just curious. And or any news outlets that would qualify.



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