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Today Marks My 5th Anniversary as a Member (Sift Talk Post)

Today Marks My 5th Anniversary as a Member (Sift Talk Post)

Today Marks My 5th Anniversary as a Member (Sift Talk Post)

Today Marks My 5th Anniversary as a Member (Sift Talk Post)

'A New Dawn' - Classic nVidia tech demo gets a DX11 makeover

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Beautiful Commercial Regarding Down Syndrome

rottenseed says...

>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^KnivesOut:
Taken at face value, you sound like a pretty awful person.
Care to elaborate? Forgot sarcasm checkbox?

Humanity is intellect.[Citation Needed]
This is a video of essentially stillborn babies leading sham-lives with the help of delusional puppeteers, at a real cost to society.[Citation Needed]
This is the voice of compassion. We're ill-enough-equipped to deal with the existing problems of living, intellectually active humans without supporting the anthropomorphizational fantasies of grieving parents. [Citation Needed]
As gwiz will be pleased to hear, ~90% of downs foetuses are aborted in civilised countries.[Citation Needed] We need to improve that towards 100%, while implementing other controls on low-value births. Eugenics is not the enemy; it's a necessary step in the advancement of our species.[Citation Needed] This ad, emotionally satisfying as it may be, pulls us in exactly the wrong direction.

Beautiful Commercial Regarding Down Syndrome

gwiz665 says...

Well, I think we should weed out things like Down's Syndrome before birth, but once they are here, we must take care of them. We should have some common decency towards otherwise helpless, or lower functioning people, like the sick, disabled, retarded, jobless, poor etc. but try to avoid making new ones.

>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^KnivesOut:
Taken at face value, you sound like a pretty awful person.
Care to elaborate? Forgot sarcasm checkbox?

Humanity is intellect.
This is a video of essentially stillborn babies leading sham-lives with the help of delusional puppeteers, at a real cost to society.
This is the voice of compassion. We're ill-enough-equipped to deal with the existing problems of living, intellectually active humans without supporting the anthropomorphizational fantasies of grieving parents.
As gwiz will be pleased to hear, ~90% of downs foetuses are aborted in civilised countries. We need to improve that towards 100%, while implementing other controls on low-value births. Eugenics is not the enemy; it's a necessary step in the advancement of our species. This ad, emotionally satisfying as it may be, pulls us in exactly the wrong direction.

Beautiful Commercial Regarding Down Syndrome

gorillaman says...

>> ^KnivesOut:

Taken at face value, you sound like a pretty awful person.
Care to elaborate? Forgot sarcasm checkbox?


Humanity is intellect.

This is a video of essentially stillborn babies leading sham-lives with the help of delusional puppeteers, at a real cost to society.

This is the voice of compassion. We're ill-enough-equipped to deal with the existing problems of living, intellectually active humans without supporting the anthropomorphizational fantasies of grieving parents.

As gwiz will be pleased to hear, ~90% of downs foetuses are aborted in civilised countries. We need to improve that towards 100%, while implementing other controls on low-value births. Eugenics is not the enemy; it's a necessary step in the advancement of our species. This ad, emotionally satisfying as it may be, pulls us in exactly the wrong direction.

A Wiener That's Almost Too Pretty to Eat!

A Divisive Video Brings a Divisive Question For The Sift--Are We The Same? (User Poll by kceaton1)

kceaton1 says...

>> ^zombieater:

I like the idea of this survey, but the description mixes two different topics. The theory of natural selection and evolution have nothing to do with the origins of life on earth (the prevalent scientific theory belongs to abiogenesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis). I believe this may be what gwiz touched on, in that numbers 2 and 4 also refer to evolution.
Perhaps we could ask a survey that asks about the origin of life on earth? Selections could include:
1) Creationism
2) Deism (Clockwork Universe Theory)
3) Abiogenesis
4) Panspermia Hypothesis
The Gallup poll to which you refer did not focus on the origins of life, rather how life has changed (or not changed) in our recent biological history. I doubt you meant that aliens have changed life since it first began, which is why I believe two different ideas are mixed here.


Your right, I did mix it up a bit. I tried to even it out a bit in a quick edit maybe 10 minutes afterwards when I fully re-read it (and the realization that it was slanted hit me; I also tried to make the religious stances sound more equalized--hard to do without evidence...). But, really I had it up for too long so I just left it be; or at the least I thought it was too long. I figured everyone would gather what there was to choose from and what I meant whether I made some mistakes or not. Even in my description of Evolution I made sure to make people realize that Darwin's old natural selection isn't the "exact" primer for everything in biology although a strong one. We've found much to our surprise that stranger things are going on in the lands of "Evolution" and natural selection, survival of the fittest, and other old adages taught in school as the MOST of the only things driving Evolution for the most part may be a little off--not completely--just that the window to our knowledge IS NOT closed and our horizons are broader than once thought thanks to modern scientists re-tooling their devices and machines to once again have a more thorough and "re-tooling" our look at Evolution for a harder "inside look" as well. It's more like an onion now with layers that peel off; each time you peel off one there's another ready to be peeled off... (I'll make sure I didn't get that confused in the poll, somewhere...)

As for choices two and four... I was also concerned that they both had Evolution (especially choice four as I listed it DIRECTLY, even though technically an Alien intelligence is bound to believe, perhaps, in fourteen different reasons for their existence and ours as well...so I may have "jumped the shark" so to say on that one altogether) as a primary tool in them as well as it really didn't differentiate them that much from straight up Evolution (and it did in fact make Evolution seem like the clear choice in many respects, unless you are a STOUT believer of the other two--no case was made for them). Your selection of choices certainly would have worked as well (though to be honest I think many would need to go to Wikipedia before they picked it ), but I did want to try to remain close to the Gallup Poll (as you discussed later) and you're correct in that I should have stayed away from the Evolution subject on those and focused on what their key beliefs, politics (if any), key ideas, and as I said earlier perhaps to even make a case for them--as much could be made. (That goes for @gwiz665s comment too as well, as you said; his comment noted the same discrepancy...) These are things to make sure I do on my next poll; but, I think everyone can make it through this one OK for now.

C'est la vie.

PS- My shift keys are broken and it's DRIVING me nuts. If it seems like I'm randomly not capitalizing letters that should be, that's why! Good thing I'm proof-reading right now or I would have had 10 or so just in this post alone!

A Divisive Video Brings a Divisive Question For The Sift--Are We The Same? (User Poll by kceaton1)

zombieater says...

I like the idea of this survey, but the description mixes two different topics. The theory of natural selection and evolution have nothing to do with the origins of life on earth (the prevalent scientific theory belongs to abiogenesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis). I believe this may be what gwiz touched on, in that numbers 2 and 4 also refer to evolution.

Perhaps we could ask a survey that asks about the origin of life on earth? Selections could include:
1) Creationism
2) Deism (Clockwork Universe Theory)
3) Abiogenesis
4) Panspermia Hypothesis

The Gallup poll to which you refer did not focus on the origins of life, rather how life has changed (or not changed) in our recent biological history. I doubt you meant that aliens have changed life since it first began, which is why I believe two different ideas are mixed here.

I'm going to make a VS political compass chart for fun. (Politics Talk Post)

I'm going to make a VS political compass chart for fun. (Politics Talk Post)

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