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Conor McGregor vs The Mountain

ChaosEngine says...

Hardly the same though, is it?

Akebono only won 1 fight in his MMA career. He's strong, but the gap between him and Gracie is nothing like the gap between McGregor and Björnsson.

newtboy said:

I always spell his name wrong...

Yes...see this fight VS Akebono...weighs were 180 lbs VS 486 lbs

Conor McGregor vs The Mountain

ChaosEngine says...

Royce Gracie fought at 80kg. Are you telling me he beat someone who was 160kg+?

Remember, I'm not talking about just some big guy, this is the guy that carried a 640kg (1443lb) log!
*related=http://videosift.com/video/the-Mountain-lifts-and-carries-a-1433-pound-log

I'm not saying he's unbeatable (clearly he's not *related=http://videosift.com/video/The-Mountain-learns-true-power-from-champion-armwrestler ).

Again, I'm not saying a smaller guy can beat a bigger guy; I get beaten up by smaller people every week!
I'm saying a 66kg guy will have a very hard time hurting a 190kg guy.

newtboy said:

I recall Joyce Gracie taking on people more than twice his size...and winning. His style was very hands (and legs) on, up close, and personal. Granted, he was an insanely talented freak who, as far as I know, is still unequaled in grappling. I'm just saying that, with enough skill and technique, size is much less of a factor than you might think.

Conor McGregor vs The Mountain

newtboy says...

I recall Royce Gracie taking on people more than twice his size...and winning. His style was very hands (and legs) on, up close, and personal. Granted, he was an insanely talented freak who, as far as I know, is still unequaled in grappling. I'm just saying that, with enough skill and technique, size is much less of a factor than you might think.

ChaosEngine said:

Agreed. Even in a "real" fight, although McGregor is a trained fighter and knows how to seriously injure someone and Björnsson (to the best of my knowledge) isn't, he's just too big.

He could probably lie down, let Connor put an arm bar on him, and still just break the arm bar and get up.

The only way to beat him would be at range with a spear or something. You'd be fine as long as you weren't stupid enough to get too close

Ronda Rousey Demonstrates Infamous Armbar on Jimmy

ChaosEngine says...

Yeah, she's the real deal. Check out this breakdown of her armbar vs Tate
*related=http://videosift.com/video/Gracie-Breakdown-of-Ronda-Rousey-Armbar-vs-Miesha-Tate-1

Ronda Rousey Demonstrates Infamous Armbar on Jimmy

What Systema looks like once you've reached a certain level

9547bis says...

It is true that MMA is not the be-all end-all of martial arts,and in fact "two persons of equivalent weight competing willingly on neutral ground" is quite far removed from "actual trouble" (key words: "two", "willingly").

That being said, two things:
1) There have been 'no-hold-barred' fights / underground duels recorded since at least the 1920s, some of them very violent and bone-splitting (famously: Kimura Vs Gracie), and 'soft' aikido-style systems never won anything.

2) More importantly, systema does claim a number of things, including being a martial art in the military sense, and being the product of an elite military force, to which it was reserved (i.e. it was secret). It also claims to have semi-mystical roots dating from the middle ages, and bonker stuff like 'paralyzing soft punch' and 'healing punch' (this is claimed by its actual founder - you can look it up). Of course none of those claims have been substantiated.

So systema is either:
- An elite martial art with Fist-Of-The-North-Star like powers, yet no one heard of it before or beside (not pre-USSR historians, not recognized Russian martial artists, and not actual Russian elite military officers), and was/is super-secret, yet can be somehow taught to anyone.

Or:
- Stuff made up by two guys out of the army.

You decide.

If your goal is "studying" and "bettering yourself", shouldn't that involve something that's honest with its claims?

I agree with Velocity5, it is, indeed, self-deception.

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Gracie Breakdown of Ronda Rousey Armbar vs. Miesha Tate 1

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New York's Mayor Bloomberg Promotes Agenda, Wastes Money

chingalera says...

Well, I didn't say tax payer's money, I know it was his personal coin. It came form the same pile of money the cunt bought the election with-He's a fucking piece of human garbage, and all I have to do is watch what he does, and listen to him talk.

These attempts of his to blame the drug and not the user with guns??....Complete horseshit, another baby-step towards the future police state AFAIAC.

"The MAIG was formed on April 25, 2006, during a summit held at Gracie Mansion in New York City that was hosted by Boston Mayor Thomas Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who serve as co-chairs of the coalition."-waki

Fletch said:

To be fair, he didn't waste taxpayer money. It was paid for by "Mayors Against Illegal Guns", which has over 900 mayors as members. Would you like to donate ?

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Romero (Member Profile)

kronosposeidon says...

If the following comment doesn't convince you that this is choggie:

In reply to this comment by Romero:
This, "It's only the internet" shit would apparently from the accounts from female(s) who have met this, what appears to be, developmentally disabled child gwiz665 in person does not seem to apply here-I would tend to trust the in-person meeting over the online persona, if you could call it one.

I haven't been here active until recently,but i have been watching some of the more prolific users.

Gwiz665? You need some basic social decorum lessons alla Liza Doolittle-Doesn't appear given your geographical orientation and command of a conversation that you get out a whole lot. (Note the defensive posturing of the accused in light of hard evidence and/or disagreement of any kind with his position)-schoolyard shenanigans.

Qualm? He won't leave, and he won't become any more interesting nor will his overall raw, untrained incivility falter. Feel sorry for him but don't knock his ice cream cone in the sand for good measure-From the looks of his past with other users,he ain't gonna take any advice, good, bad, or otherwise.

Shut-in douchebag?? Too much attention as a child? Legend in his own mind?



Then maybe this comment will:

In reply to this comment by Romero:
Uuugggh! Aural and ocular abuse-WPTTHTBF < whitepeopletryingtoohardtobefunny

Check out this this search of "white people trying too hard to be funny"




Banned.

If anyone has a problem with this, take it up with @dag or @lucky760. Maybe they'll give a fuck, but I don't.

And don't worry, choggie. I'll ban the rest of your sockpuppets when I feel like it.

Aikido: Atemi in Action: Training Doesnt Have to be Nice

Bidouleroux says...

>> ^chilaxe:
The claims that non-collusive sparring can't be done using Aikido without hurting the opponent too badly can be tested easily against a mixed martial artist willing to risk broken arms, wrists, fingers etc. (he won't think it's much of a risk). I believe this issue is only going to grow, as mixed martial arts is growing rapidly, with viewership of the monthly UFC events eclipsing boxing and sometimes even baseball viewership among the under 40 generation.

This would be ridiculous, because aikido is practiced as a defensive art. Also see my points below. As an anecdote, there was such a duel arranged between one of Osensei's student and an american judo champion for a film on aikido in the 1960's. The judo guy was told not to attack since aikido was a defensive art. So he didn't. But the aikido representative (Akira Tohei), feinted an attack to create an opening and finally got the much bigger American judo guy on the ground. Still afterwards he was scolded by Osensei who said "You should have waited for an attack no matter what!". This is to say that there is no point in fighting if it's not to defend your life (or honor, since for the old Japanese the two are equal).


Isn't it a good cause to encourage Aikido to back up its claims, or to utilize more realistic sparring? UFC champs become millionaires, so there does seem to be ample incentive to participate.

Japanese bushi (samurai) did not participate in "realistic sparring" with their jujutsu techniques, yet the best of them could have probably killed any UFC champ. Why? Because they were ready to die at anytime. At that level, an untrained and sloppy but sudden and unexpected eye poke, for example, can become a lethal tool.

In my eyes, Judo and MMA competitions are much more dance-like than aikido practice. They're "freeform" dances. In judo and MMA you both have freedom from kata, but you lose that freedom because of 1) rules and 2) the "fair duel" setup, i.e. two guys that know when they will be fighting each other and even sometimes know what techniques the other favors. Aikido on the contrary doesn't require a "fair duel" situation to be effective. In fact, many (dan level) techniques are done with two or three opponents. We also practice with 4 or more opponents to make sure our techniques can flow instinctively under pressure. Karate still has kata with many opponent situation but most student don't even know they're fighting more than one "shadow" opponent in their kata. In comparison, in aikido we practice our "kata" (techniques) with a partner. This is because jujutsu is a skin-to-skin contact art, so you have to train your somatic sensations, up to being able to execute a technique in full darkness (this is practiced in many dojo in fact).

On the other hand, what is difficult with both competition and kata practice is to understand that in a non-comptetition or non-practice situation, you do not have to conform to kata or techniques. You execute them when the occasion presents itself, otherwise you try to create, in the heat of the moment, such an occasion (with atemi or some other distraction). In the end, the best teachers are real situations: if you really want to know if you're ready, go catch some criminals or kill some terrorists.

P.S. I know true judo (as done by Kano and Mifune for example) and many of the arts practiced in MMA by themselves don't need the "fair duel" setup to be effective, but the way they train for competitions makes it so (in fact Gracie jujutsu was made for fair duels. That's how they became famous in Brazil, by dueling. Saying that BJJ is good on the street is like saying a rapier is good on a battlefield: complete nonsense).

Come on, e'rybody! Let's see your pets! (Pets Talk Post)

dotdude says...

You'll have to settle for my sister's brood of Toy Poodles:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/2611998170_84db08665c_o.jpg

From left to right: Frannie, Gracie (Frannie's daughter), Ginger Rose (Frannie's daughter) and Gracie (Frannie's older sister, same parents different litter)

And I almost forgot about one that comes to visit. My sister called her Pepper (also Frannie's daughter) until her new owner called her Cocoa. But then she ended up with a second owner who called her Sweet Pea. Here she is:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moart/2611998824/sizes/o/in/photostream/



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