>> ^grinter:

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^rychan:
Hmm... Some Internet contrarian are saying that an after-the-game penalty kick (such as this) is over when the ball is stopped, and that by stopping the forward motion of the ball this play was dead. The Fifa rule book doesn't seem entirely clear on when such penalty kicks are over. But I think this is definitely a goal and the ball was not stopped.

The penalty kick is stopped once it's forward momentum of the ball is spent. Obviously in this case it wasn't spent...the was no second touch to propel it towards the goal...it just came off and spun in. If the keeper had stopped it completely and then tossed it into the goal it wouldn't have counted.

I agree that it's a goal, but..
the forward momentum of the ball was spent, ..on rotational momentum, ..which was cashed in later for new forward momentum at a higher rate of exchange.


Ok fine the point is that it was not propelled towards goal by the kicker a second time.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^rychan:
Hmm... Some Internet contrarian are saying that an after-the-game penalty kick (such as this) is over when the ball is stopped, and that by stopping the forward motion of the ball this play was dead. The Fifa rule book doesn't seem entirely clear on when such penalty kicks are over. But I think this is definitely a goal and the ball was not stopped.

The penalty kick is stopped once it's forward momentum of the ball is spent. Obviously in this case it wasn't spent...the was no second touch to propel it towards the goal...it just came off and spun in. If the keeper had stopped it completely and then tossed it into the goal it wouldn't have counted.

I agree that it's a goal, but..
the forward momentum of the ball was spent, ..on rotational momentum, ..which was cashed in later for new forward momentum at a higher rate of exchange.

>> ^rychan:

Hmm... Some Internet contrarian are saying that an after-the-game penalty kick (such as this) is over when the ball is stopped, and that by stopping the forward motion of the ball this play was dead. The Fifa rule book doesn't seem entirely clear on when such penalty kicks are over. But I think this is definitely a goal and the ball was not stopped.


The penalty kick is stopped once it's forward momentum of the ball is spent. Obviously in this case it wasn't spent...the was no second touch to propel it towards the goal...it just came off and spun in. If the keeper had stopped it completely and then tossed it into the goal it wouldn't have counted.

Hmm... Some Internet contrarian are saying that an after-the-game penalty kick (such as this) is over when the ball is stopped, and that by stopping the forward motion of the ball this play was dead. The Fifa rule book doesn't seem entirely clear on when such penalty kicks are over. But I think this is definitely a goal and the ball was not stopped.

>> ^sepatown:

hand-ball!


There is no such thing under FIFA Laws of the Game. It is known as handling the ball or a "handling foul."

hilariously pathetic. this takes all the respect out of the game. fifa needs to crack down on this crap because it ruins the game. if you flop it should be a yellow card every time, and they need to add more refs to catch it.

One proposal:

After a match, each player that clearly faked an injury gets a day of quarantine by FIFA, based on the video recordings.

>> ^Shepppard:

Didn't he technically use his hands?


No technically he didn't use anything. Which would make this penalty kick not count. Unless you are a corrupt organization like FIFA... Then they can decide for you whether it will count or not.

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And here's more crowd reactions around the world.

>> ^gwiz665:

You know what this needs..? More vuvuzelas!!

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>> ^Deano:

Some good points there. What the hosts might need reminding about is how this World Cup will be remembered. Currently the football's not great (and that might well be due partly to the vuvuzelas themselves) and so you'd hope the atmosphere would make up for it. These trumpets don't create atmosphere - I learned today they are primarily there to distract opposition players and obviously they do that very well.
The fact is that regardless of how bad the organisers screw this up, the World Cup is not coming back to Africa for sometime. Next up is Brazil and no African country is bidding for 2018 or 2022. Given that it's 44 years since England hosted I'm guessing it could be a similar gap for African countries as I don't know many who would be better equipped that South Africa.


I'd like to add that it's not African fans that blow those horns in games like Netherlands - Denmark. It's our fans who do it now and they won't really care if they're banned since they only know about vuvzelas since last week. I agree that it should be Africas World Cup and not our way forced upon them. That's why I'd say ban them for games without African participation. That way they can celebrate their games the way they normally do and we'll still have our atmosphere come the quarter finals.

FIFA screwed up big time here. Giving the WC to SA was questionable from the getgo, but we knew about the vuvuzelas since last summer's Confed Cup, and they did absolutely NOTHING. No noise cancellation, no filtering, nothing! Italy supporters had their own song in 2006. I bet they sang it yesterday, but I'll never know. England fans are known for creating a great atmosphere, singing their national anthem during the game. They probably did that during the game vs the US, but we will never know. It's a shame really, because this is what people will remember aout this World Cup. Ask people if the WC should go to Africa again and they'll say no. Ask 'em why and they'll say one word: vuvuzela.

"Of the 45 national FIFA affiliates in which English is an official or primary language, 42 use football in their organizations official name (only Canada, Samoa and the United States use soccer)."



Thanks, wiki.

And I thought bagpipes were annoying. Also extreme fashion fail at 1:26. Is there a reason why that guy has a white bag on his head?

Never mind, after they've screwed up hosting this World Cup it won't be going back to any African country (in any case) for a long, long time. Apart from the crime, I hear the transport is still rubbish.

Also thanks to FIFA we've already see the mediocrity of some of the football thanks to having 32 teams (some of which would take a pasting from English Championship sides).

The vuvuzela is gotten out of hand though even FIFA is considering banning it from future games.

I understand if they played it like when something cool happens but not fro the entirety of a 90 minutes game.

I believe this was on a FIFA game I used to play a lot...