Good God - you're a Deadwood fan as well? Our similarities are disturbing.

>> ^kymbos:

He that is among you without sin, let him cast the first stone...
While I may not align my personal self-delusion with Ryjkyj, the thing I find interesting about piracy is that we're all hypocrites
Spoco, to paraphrase you, you’ve said that it’s the Big Corporates ’ fault that you torrent specific products because they insist on controls and limitations, or are too slow. So what? What entitles you to immediate and unfiltered access to whatever you want, whenever you want it? They are artists producing that material, putting their heart and soul into it. Why do you feel entitled to it in a format of your preference?
While I sympathise, I don’t find it a watertight argument. Even those who refuse to torrent on moral grounds may be inhibiting the expansion of art. There’s pretty convincing data around showing that file sharing has led to more musicians producing and being paid for their art than would have occurred otherwise. By file sharing, you are participating in this expansion. By refusing to, you are stunting its growth.


Oh, don't get me wrong, I know what I'm doing is wrong, and I know that I should be providing those who make the entertainment money. And as I said, I do with movies... TV not so much, because it's that thing that I don't have much interest in re-watching shows. (Except Deadwood, we bought all of that on DVD, because you can watch that over and over and get things you missed in the beautiful cussing the first time ) So, there, yes I have a problem. A show like Fringe. I think that's an awesome show, looks like it doesn't have much life left in it, could do with the support, but what can I do realistically? I can't add to its ratings at all as I'm not a family with one of the rating boxes (one of my friends was for a while, was fun to intentionally watch 'good' tv to try to boost ratings ), if I bought the show on DVD it'd really be a symbolic gesture on my part where I'd end up with a bunch of DVDs I'll never watch.

Now, if they made the remaining episodes of it available worldwide for a small subscription fee (and hey, open up the back catalogue too so people can catch up), then I'd stop torrenting it and use the legal downloads (assuming they aren't DRM'd all up the butt).

So yes, I know that torrenting isn't 'right', but I try to do the right thing by the work I like. But I have issues with me doing it, and would like to be provided another avenue to do it legally where I can support the creators I like (without having to pay for crap I don't like). @Ryjkyj seems to believe he's actually in the right, and that's what gets my goat. People who seem to think you're only producing something if you can hold it or touch it. That's such utter rubbish.

He sounds like Tim Olyphant-tastic from deadwood

Looking forward to it, although I too would just friggen love for Deadwood to return, at least to finish the incomplete 3rd season, I HATE that it just stopped mid story arcs.

Cool. I hope it gets better. The first season was solid but a bit HBO formulaic, imo.

Bring back Deadwood, I say. I have unfinished business with that show.

I just finished The Pacific. I really liked Band of Brothers, so I had high hopes, but in the end I felt it was not completely up to par with its predecessor. Nice to learn a little bit of WW2 history from the other side of the globe, though.

Right now I'm at a loss as to what I should watch next. I watched the first two episodes of Mad Men, and while I enjoyed the retro scenery, the storyline didn't really drag me in. I'm thinking of continuing on with season 3 of Dexter, and watch Arrested Development for comedy, since everyone speaks so highly of it. When Game of Thrones comes out, I will watch that. I would love suggestions, though. Things I've seen and enjoyed in the past:

-Deadwood
-The Wire
-Battlestar Galactica
-Firefly
-Doctor Who
-Rome

Awesome. Deadwood restored my faith in Western story-telling, and I'm onboard this one.

My problem with most westerns is that they're just formulaic buddy flicks. I'd put 3:10 to Yuma in this category as well.

It is awesome, but Deadwood's better. I've never seen a tighter production.

>> ^rychan:

>> ^lavoll:
ive no idea who tracy morgan is... but its tina fey <3
You haven't watched 30 Rock? It's sublime.



not yet. still watching deadwood and i think after that i will watch carnivale seasons 2, and then twin peaks again. I mostly watch dvds, i dont have time to watch regularly scheduled program on tv. but will check out 30 rock.... especially if tina fey is in it.

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Throughout watching this video, all I could think of was this clip from Deadwood.

Thanks for the advice, peeps. I'm going to have a crack at the Wire to start with, and if it doesn't grab me I'll switch to the Sopranos after the first season.

I watched the last episode of Deadwood last night. That third series was the most amazing piece of TV I've ever seen. Each episode notched up the pressure ever higher. But am I the only one that was a little let down by the conclusion? I'm presuming they expected to have more series to go to, because it felt to me they left a fair bit of their powder dry.

I'm wondering if they knew it would be the last episode, if they wouldn't have let the carnage loose?

Oh, and I've seen a couple of episodes of Weeds and enjoyed it. It's on the list!

>> ^eric3579:
I'll give my opinion only because we seem to enjoy the same stuff. My three favorite TV series of all time are West Wing, Deadwood and The Sopranos. I however have never watched The Wire. I also enjoyed Carnivale, and would consider it my fourth favorite.


Well, you've totally got to watch The Wire then. Omar from that show is the true inheritor of Al Swearengen's legacy. A scheming, ruthless, brilliant, terrifying, loveable, huggable murderer.

I'll give my opinion only because we seem to enjoy the same stuff. My three favorite TV series of all time are West Wing, Deadwood and The Sopranos. I however have never watched The Wire. I also enjoyed Carnivale, and would consider it my fourth favorite.

I totally concur that Deadwood was the best thing ever produced for television. The Wire is a close 2nd, so my vote is for that.

Also worth consideration:

Carnivale- also prematurely cancelled after 2 seasons. A little more esoteric by definition.

I Clavdivs: Very much in the Deadwood vein, a little bit cheesey by today's standards, but definitely quality drama. Also much less of a commitment, only 13 episodes in total, but it is a complete story arc.