Isn't Steam an always online DRM too? I mean, I can only play most games on Steam if I'm online, even though there's an offline mode, I'm not sure it lets you be offline forever though, I think it requires checking with Steam servers once in a while (I'm guessing, haven't tried playing offline).

Steam has had many terrible problems in the first few years, but nowadays, the online requirement doesn't bother me at all.

What about Starcraft 2, you're required to be online, even to play the single player campaign. Does that qualify as always online DRM too? Seriously, I want to know.

I think ppl are complaining about the online DRM, but maybe they're just mad about SimCity's EA servers being short on capacity. Which is a huge problem if they're enforcing always online DRM, but it's not the DRM's fault. Does that make sense?

always online games limit what games i will purchase, i have to make the decision of only being able to play the game sometimes or get something that lets me play when i want without limitation, but because i dont always get internet support on travel i have to choose wisely. so i will choose something else to purchase over drm games.

diablo 3 was a single play through on the classes i wanted to play, could not play the game where there is no internet so it was uninstalled when i was done getting the classes to 60, diablo 2 was (and is still) years of fun. when they announced Simcity4 as a always online, i decided that i will never purchase a copy of that game. sucks for a company i have fully supported up until now.

i refuse to support companies that make bad decisions. If a game is good enough to purchase, people will purchase it. you dont see bethesda crying about loss of PC sales of skyrim...

this is why i don't preorder

and this is why i wait until most games goes on sale before I get them, I don't buy beta tests, want me to support a game at full retail, I want the full, functional game at retail, that's the video game developer's fault not mine

i'm more than happy to wait to the end of a game's life cycle if I actually get a fully functioning game (and with Simcity, with online DRM, maybe even then I wouldn't be getting the game if the servers going down meant my ability to play was going to dissappear)

for an INDUSTRY soooo concerned about piracy... they sure do EVERYTHING in their power to ensure that piracy is the most appealing option

EA lost me as a fan of some of the brands they own when they forced Origin on me as well... that was the first blatant, you can't ignore it any longer, slap in the face EA did in my opinion in regards to their profitability being ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more important than my enjoyment of their games, my bang for my dollar, and my value to them as a customer

Well, it's not really DRM that's causing the issues here. It's that SimCity is now cloud based. You're signing into their servers, saving your game data there, etc... It does make multiplayer pretty awesome, when it works.

I doubt you could decouple the game from that functionality.

Diablo 3 is the first and only drm i will ever buy terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible

(not saying diablo 3 is terrible, DRM is)

wait, I thought there was a beta. Wow, did they ever screw up.
Also, I think the lesson that EA learns about this will not be, "highly restrictive DRM is a bad idea," but rather, "we need more DRM'd servers."

I like how I have space to carry around the ingredients for 30-40 syringes, but I can only actually carry 11. Does it ever annoy me that I have a hotkey for mines and remote charges which I use ever so sparingly, but all my syringes and modified arrows have to share 7/8? It reminds me of Skyrim. Unfortunately there will be no mod scene to fix these niggles.

Oh, and Uplay is indeed bullshit. There was a pirated version of the game out before it was even released here, yet again their drm just serves to fuck over legit owners. I bought the game on steam, so its double dumb. Steam launches Uplay, Uplay launches FC3...

I hear WoW on PC is also better... Ziiing!!

>> ^Lolthien:

>> ^ForgedReality:
It looks like crap because it's on a console, you dickwags. It's super pixelated because it's probably 720p at best. In 6 to 8 months when it comes out on PC, it will look much, much better. Of course, it will still suffer from consolitis, and be ruined by horrid, invasive DRM, so it won't be worth playing, but at least it will look a lot better.

Have you guys played any 'Console ports' lately? Sleeping Dogs is outstanding on PC, Dishonored is likewise outstanding, and of course Skyrim is ten times better on PC. All these games were marketed for consoles, but their PC versions got a lot of love and it shows. Hell, even the latest Deus Ex was pretty awesome on PC.

>> ^ForgedReality:

It looks like crap because it's on a console, you dickwags. It's super pixelated because it's probably 720p at best. In 6 to 8 months when it comes out on PC, it will look much, much better. Of course, it will still suffer from consolitis, and be ruined by horrid, invasive DRM, so it won't be worth playing, but at least it will look a lot better.


Have you guys played any 'Console ports' lately? Sleeping Dogs is outstanding on PC, Dishonored is likewise outstanding, and of course Skyrim is ten times better on PC. All these games were marketed for consoles, but their PC versions got a lot of love and it shows. Hell, even the latest Deus Ex was pretty awesome on PC.

It looks like crap because it's on a console, you dickwags. It's super pixelated because it's probably 720p at best. In 6 to 8 months when it comes out on PC, it will look much, much better. Of course, it will still suffer from consolitis, and be ruined by horrid, invasive DRM, so it won't be worth playing, but at least it will look a lot better.

This is why I don't use iTunes. Oh and DRM FTL.

>> ^Mikus_Aurelius:

Except it will be infected by stupid DRM.


As long as all of the AI runs locally and it's only sending statistics, at least the performance won't be damaged by a poor connection, the way it is with Diablo 3. Still, the DRM is inexcusable, but not D3 bad; they've set a very high bar.

>> ^Fletch:

>> ^Mikus_Aurelius:
Except it will be infected by stupid DRM.

Another game I've suddenly lost interest in. I refuse to support online-only single-player games. I await the announcement of a RMAH.
Edit: Love the tilt-shift, though.


Yeah Diablo 3 is as far as I will ever go for that arrangement and even now I'm wondering why...

>> ^Mikus_Aurelius:

Except it will be infected by stupid DRM.


Another game I've suddenly lost interest in. I refuse to support online-only single-player games. I await the announcement of a RMAH.

Edit: Love the tilt-shift, though.

Except it will be infected by stupid DRM.