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ChaosEngine (Member Profile)

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eric3579 says...

I defer to your opinion as i'm only assessing, who bond is, from my childhood viewing of 007 films. Not at all from Flemings books which ive never read.

Also my favorite "Bond' film may be 1967 Casino Royale. That film was a hoot Although nothing like your typical Bond film. http://videosift.com/video/Best-Bond-film-ever-1967-Casino-Royale-trailer
I did however see 'The spy who loved me' about ten times, when it came out.

ChaosEngine said:

Roger Moore? Controversial!

Personally, I think Dalton or Craig are closest to Flemings Bond, but Connery's movies were the best.

Craig got off to an excellent start with Casino Royale, but the others have been fairly average.

The best Bond movies ever, though, are the first three Bourne movies

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ChaosEngine says...

Roger Moore? Controversial!

Personally, I think Dalton or Craig are closest to Flemings Bond, but Connery's movies were the best.

Craig got off to an excellent start with Casino Royale, but the others have been fairly average.

The best Bond movies ever, though, are the first three Bourne movies

eric3579 said:

Roger Moore will always be the real James Bond to me.
First Bond film i watched at a theater was Live and Let Die(blew my mind as a child).
Last one was Moonraker.
I think i've seen a few bond films made after those, and a few of Connery's also
Daniel Craig is hardly charming or smooth enough to be a bond imo.

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PHJF says...

Quantum of Solace was the complete opposite of Casino Royale. That's why people hated it. QoS returned Bond to his heyday of one ridiculous action scene/chase after another. Good at face value, bad in relation to CR.

I only really liked Skyfall because of Bardem. I was basically giggling every time I saw him because of his introduction scene with Bond.

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kymbos says...

I want him to do Bond. I heard a story that he had been pitching Casino Royale to the Bond powers that be for ages, and they eventually had it made but chose another director.

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spoco2 says...

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^spoco2:
Also, people say that the opening car chase in QOS was awesome here it is, I contend it isn't. This isn't so much to do with shaky cam as it is with insanely quick cutting, never allowing the staging of the scene to be felt, just making it feel like it was edited by a hyperactive 2 year old.

I see openings like this as a way to introduce the characters or to jump into the story. Casino Royale started with a parkour chase which was definitely better than this car chase. But the car chase was more of a way to get the ball rolling I guess.


That Parkour scene was a great demonstration on how to stage an action sequence in such a way that you saw everything. You saw that they were actually doing large portions of it in single runs, that it looked awesome and thrilling. That's exactly the sort of action scene I love. The quick cut, shaky cam style means they only have to shoot a second of the scene at a time, because that's as long as you see of anything before you cut to another angle.

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kymbos says...

Look, Casino Royale showed up twenty years of Bond films to be the mindless derivative drivel that they were.

The film reintroduced the darkness that was at the heart of Bond that hasn't been seen, arguably, since the death of Bond's just-married wife at the end of the highly underrated "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" (which coincidentally had the best soundtrack of all Bond films). That was in 1969.

Some would contend that Timothy Dalton captured the true essence of Bond's dark moodiness in his too-short stint as Bond in The Living Daylights and Licence to Kill - but he had the advantage of actually being able to act, a skill no one could accuse Pierce Brosnan of bringing to the franchise.

I believe that the Bourne films effectively modernised Bond and the franchise was forced to follow, after years of meandering aimlessly with Brosnan whose films retained a misplaced focus on gadgets and 'witty' lines. There is a place for these, but they superseded plot, character and genuine style. Product placement became too much of a cash cow as well (although I hear an agreement has been made to replace Bond's signature martini with Heineken in Skyfall).

Casino Royale returned Bond to his rightful place. Bourne is great, but he's no Bond. Compared to CR, Quantum of Solace was indeed inferior. But Yogi is right - it was way better than every Brosnan Bond film, which were total disappointments to genuine fans.

So there.

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Yogi says...

>> ^spoco2:

Also, people say that the opening car chase in QOS was awesome here it is, I contend it isn't. This isn't so much to do with shaky cam as it is with insanely quick cutting, never allowing the staging of the scene to be felt, just making it feel like it was edited by a hyperactive 2 year old.


I see openings like this as a way to introduce the characters or to jump into the story. Casino Royale started with a parkour chase which was definitely better than this car chase. But the car chase was more of a way to get the ball rolling I guess.

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Yogi says...

>> ^DrNoodles:

Quantum of Solace was in my opinion one of the worst Bond films in a while. I absolutely love Casino Royale though!
I'm hoping this is good


The worst Bond film of the two that have recently come out? Because if you're comparing Quantum of Solace to say "Goldeneye" or "Thunderball" you're ridiculous. Bond films are notoriously awful and stupid. Seriously watch an old Bond film sometime, there's better acting in "Titanic 2".

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Yogi says...

>> ^spoco2:

Casino Royale was Awesome.
Quantum of Solace was close to being good, but fricken ruined by shaky cam action sequences.
When will shaky cam die? It does not make it seem more urgent, does not lend suspense to the scene, just shows you don't know how to stage a good action scene.


I know sooo many people that hate shaky cam. They sometimes have to look away, they don't like it at all. I love it. I don't know why but using the camera like that, forcing me not to see a situation clearly makes it better for me. I guess because if someone framed a shot where I couldn't see one of the characters clearly or a fight was mostly out of shot it would just seem like artsy bullshit to me. With shaky cam they can control more or less what I see but also actually showing me the threat or what's going on.

Also when you have shaky cam...the next thing to use is the absence of shaky cam. Say in a war scene where suddenly things go silent and everything is still. I can understand not liking too much shaking, but the hand held camera thing I honestly think is a great idea, and I've never had motion sickness so it doesn't bother me at all. So you have guys like me to blame for shaky cam.

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spoco2 says...

Casino Royale was Awesome.

Quantum of Solace was close to being good, but fricken ruined by shaky cam action sequences.

When will shaky cam die? It does not make it seem more urgent, does not lend suspense to the scene, just shows you don't know how to stage a good action scene.



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