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TangledThorns (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Try again, troll. It's on Trump Jr's rumble page, and now the entire unedited video is posted instead of the cut version. All real.

Anyways, we all know Biden doesn't practice nepotism like Trump, so whatever problems his son may or may not have are moot, unlike the Trump's that were all deeply involved in Daddy's administration and who all took tens of millions in foreign bribes to sell out America in the deals they set up and Daddy agreed to.

Also, let's not forget the main player left supporting the election fraud fraud actually is a long term, heavy, and admitted crack head. That crack head as Trump's right hand man and advisor doesn't seem to bother you, just like Don Jr's long time public coke and crack habits don't.

TangledThorns said:

Good try at a deep fake, not. Anyways, we all know President Biden's son is the real crack head.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Did you get your Trump payroll temporary tax pause bill yet? If not, get ready. $2-3000 for most people who's companies were dumb enough to have their employees take his little bribe, due in <30 days from reports. I hope you didn't give it all to the Trump in 24 fund.

Swiss hockey coach tells it like it is

cloudballoon says...

As a Canadian, I'm not going to gloat, eh? Rather, I admire the coach for speaking the truth and he need not be embarrassed by this cold, hard fact: ALL NHL teams bribe European players to play in the league. It's just "money talks" that American & Canadian teams dominate at the very top tiers of international matches.

Just like the reverse is true for FIFA.

Psaki Shows How To Handle "People Are Saying" Questions

newtboy jokingly says...

People are saying Barron Trump is actually Ivanka and Don's incestuous love child. Lots of people. They've never denied it.

People are saying Trump regularly raped 13 year old girls with his best friend Epstein during the verified regular trips Trump took to kiddie rape island.

People are saying Trump sold out America to the Chinese for millions in personal gifts and family bribes. Lots of people. The media. The banks. The Chinese.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

ROTFLMFAHS!!
You actually just said that. Holy shit!

You only say it's ok to lock him up now that Trump has turned his back. If Trump still stood with him, you would too.

Bob, you need some serious self examination. You are a high ranking cultist in the cult of Trump.
You yourself said lying is fine and proper even under oath, making up any bullshit that supports your position. You said that, you said only idiots tell the truth if it hurts their case. You absolutely do not look for, or care about truth or facts. You have been crystal clear about that.


Bob....I'm a registered independent. I don't have a party.
I see your party, the most criminal, dishonest, and divisive in American history that repeats like a mantra that they have no obligation to tell the American people the truth....I see them and wretch. The pedophilic, anti science, anti equality, anti ecology, anti truth, pro secret unlimited bribe money in politics party of say anything is what Republicans have become.

You are so deep in the cult, you only see what the Trump party tells you that you see, and you damn your eyes if they disagree.

bobknight33 said:

If true then lock him um.

That the difference between me and I look for truth and facts regardless of party or else.

You just blindly see your party.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Oops....Mat Gaetz's pimp down in Florida, who is cooperating with prosecutors, apparently saved all the encrypted, supposed to disappear in 10 minutes communication he had with Roger Stone where he was attempting to buy a pardon for sex trafficking young women for Republican representatives to rape (because they were under age, any sex with them is rape, they could not consent).
The conversations are about his pardon price, which was $250000 to be paid in bitcoin so it couldn't be traced. Unfortunately for him, Stone told him the pardon was delayed because of the scrutiny after Trump lost the election, and was never produced. (Unknown if he paid the bribe, but it would be typical Trump to take the money and disappear). Unfortunately for Stone and Trump, he took screenshots before the secret communications evaporated.

It is undeniable what they discussed, and it was the outright sale of presidential pardons to cover up sex trafficking children for Republican representatives to rape.

He also wrote a confession letter in preparation for his pardon in which he admitted paying underage women and helping them travel to other states for Republican representatives to have sex with.
More proof that the Trump party is the criminal party of child rapists. Your people.
Enjoy

The Elder Joes IV: Oblivion

newtboy jokingly says...

LMFAHS!!
Not surprising you can’t tell poorly modeled fantasy from reality, you’ve had that issue for years.

Also, yes, even as an npc he beats Trump with a heavy mallet any day and twice on Sunday. Today Trump admitted making $1.6 Billion off the presidency (not including salary) while most of his businesses were hemorrhaging money....and that doesn’t include his secret Chinese account for accepting and offering bribes, nor the secret Russian account for accepting and offering bribes, or any of the others. Most came from sources outside the US, although hundreds of millions were swindled from people just like you too.

Are you just waiting for March 4th with great anticipation? Prepare for more disappointments.

bobknight33 said:

And this is the guy you picked?

JiggaJonson (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Yes....like Texas has no standing to sue other states for how they handled the election. The idea is asinine....but I hope other states start suing Texas over, let's say, gun laws, or immigration laws. If one state can sue another because their legislatures disagree, we are going to need a new court system.

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The ones they could VERIFY!?! They didn't verify any of those claims....mainly because they weren't a bit true. Their stack of "affidavits" was a print out of claims from their hotline, all unsigned, most anonymous, and a huge percentage was trolling jokes, which they admitted in court. That's the "unsound methodology".... offering a public bribe of $1 million to anyone who could lie convincingly enough about democratic election fraud to be believed in court, then pretending every attempt at that lie was a real honest affidavit. I think they verified 4 people that voted twice using dead relatives....all republicans. In fact, every single vote fraud case since 2016 has been a republican.

No, I taped the game....I'm only interested in the commercials. Foolsball is the Devil!

JiggaJonson said:

point of clarification

"lack of standing, meaning the campaign failed to show that it had suffered an 'injury in fact'"
.....

New Rule: The Tragedy of Trump Voters

newtboy says...

Then we’re back full circle to I'm curious why you think enforcement of existing usury laws (without special rules for those who bribe enough) is the same as new building codes. Removing the special rules for predatory lending companies simplifies the law, it doesn’t complicate it like new, often contradictory building codes (that seem to be being used as an excuse for slow work by his contractor).
I feel like you’re comparing apples to brisket.

smr said:

The last paragraph addresses the irony, which is the entirety of my first comment. I did not expect him, when pushing for a legal/policy solution to her problem, to then start attacking red tape for building codes. Enough loans regulation and you'll have the same thing - complaints about not being able to get a loan and the extended processing times.. Then Bill will do a schtick showing us

New Rule: The Tragedy of Trump Voters

newtboy says...

I think that's at the discretion of the judge, if you asked for 15%, likely you'll get your principal back, if you asked for 1500%, chances are you won't get a dime back as punishment, and may end up owing the borrower if you went overboard trying to collect.

I live in California, building codes change constantly. I agree, it is maddening and often backwards. He was specifically talking about codes for building stand alone solar, which are newer building codes. Even old building codes are often poorly thought out and contradictory. I'm not saying there isn't an abundance of red tape here, especially for building.
That said, his contractor should have been aware of all codes, submitted his plan, and would have approval or notes on what to change in weeks tops. There's something wrong when it takes over a year to get a shed built, some reason his plans weren't approved like they weren't to code.
Citation : personal experience - I installed solar in California, it took 3 days for my permit approval....and only that long because my contractor was being lazy.

That's the thing I disagree with, no new laws are needed at all, just a removal of exemptions/deregulations for businesses that pay large enough bribes (contributions) to elected officials. Even making all credit businesses operate on the same rules, allowing them 30% interest, seems ok, but that isn't reality today. It's unconscionable to allow 1600% interest on loans peddled to desperate people that don't actually qualify for a real, legitimate line of credit, many of whom don't understand it's what they're agreeing to, but the payday loan lobby is well funded and connected.
Citation:
Although U.S. states set their own maximum legal interest rates, a Supreme Court interpretation of the National Bank Act of 1864 preempted state usury laws and created a path toward a national consumer lending economy. The most important federal case in credit card interest rate deregulation was decided in 1978.

Her problems were multifold. The predatory loan took a fixable issue, her terrible customer service, and compounded it with insurmountable and ever expanding debt, which in turn undoubtedly hurt her customer service more, thus increasing her debt..... It sounds like she never should have purchased a service oriented business, and likely overextended herself from day one just to do it.

I'm unsure of your point in the last paragraph.

smr said:

I think you mean they wouldn't have to pay you the interest. They would have to pay you back the principal. And that would be under specific cases and usually when no contract is involved, also all depends on where you live.

Also, I don't think either Bill's building codes are "new" vs. the usury laws being "existing". Please cite to support.

The irony is that additional laws to stop predatory lending are, in fact, what red tape is made of, by definition. So I found it amusing that he would look at her situation, say that Nancy and team were trying to solve it for her by passing new laws, then go on to complain about all the red tape surrounding this building. That red tape exists because someone else before him saw a problem or safety issue or concern, and put yet another policy or law in place to solve it. In reality, as your posts prove, her problem was not that a predatory lender got involved in her life, but that her business was in bad shape because she had gone off the deep end and was thus losing customers.

I could easily imagine a bit where he showed a stack of papers four inches thick that he had to sign to get a loan, and complain about the processing time, then showcase an SMS based loan that works in another country and funds in one day.

New Rule: The Tragedy of Trump Voters

newtboy says...

I'm curious why you think enforcement of existing usury laws is the same as new building codes.
If you loaned a friend money and charged over 10% interest, in many cases they don't ever have to pay you back anything because that's usury. Payday loan companies are only allowed to charge 1600% because they bribed congress to make them exempt from the law.

smr said:

Little bit of irony to call for regulations to prevent ultra high interest loans then decry all the red tape in California.

Georgia hearings in a Nutshell

newtboy says...

All *lies Bob. It's all you post. Every single claim you've made about the election has been professionally debunked by officials, most of them republicans. Every case tried has been tossed except one, and it didn't change a single vote. You lost, by millions of votes.

When examined, these are at best your intentional mistakes, like arguing someone with the same name as a dead person but different birth date is a dead person voting....but most are just made up by liars. That's the problem with being total liars about everything, Bob, you have no credibility when it might matter. Not one of the dead people accused of voting was found to have voted....nor any of these other baseless claims. Just fake news, Bob, lies by crybabies.

Be sure to tell your friends to boycott Georgia, no point voting if you believe this nonsense whining, your vote won't be counted anyway, so why vote?

Not one of these claims is corroborated by evidence, and they could be if they were true. All you've got is claims by liars who hope to collect the $1million dollar bribe that republicans have offered to anyone who can not be tossed out of court.

Georgia certified.

These claims were examined by the Republican election commission and all found to be false.

Quit repeating lies, liar. There's nothing to see and only wrong doing by Republicans caught voting twice. No democrats caught cheating, just accused by untrustworthy crybabies who can't accept you lost.

bobknight33 said:

GEORGIA:
2,056 felons illegally voted
66,248 under 18 voted
2,423 weren’t registered at all
1,043 used a PO Box 4,926 voted past the reg. date
10,315 died before the election
395 voted in two states
15,700 moved out of state
40,279 changed county and didn’t re-register to vote

Nothing to see , no wrong doing.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Even Trump knows it's over and started the pardon phase of his lame duck session after supporting the transition beginning. You don't do that, give secret info to a guy you claim is an enemy of the U.S., unless you see no choice.

The amount of mistakes, like slight miscounts and lost ballots, was 1/2 that of the last presidential election according to election officials.
All this fraud talk is just that, talk. The administration has presented no evidence, much less conclusive proof of any mass fraud. Are there even cases still being tried? Not many if any.

We had a fair and clean election, the cleanest this century with no meaningful foreign interference, verified by Trump appointed professionals who's job it is to know.

These idiots you keep listening to are liars, and you know it. The people claiming to have witnessed fraud are liars, not one would testify. The Trump team ensured that would be the case by offering a $1 million bribe to anyone who could testify about proof of cheating, no takers but many tried.

Better send your $8K to the legal defense fund before it gets shut down, Donny's counting on you.

Edit: if it's not over, why aren't you taking that bet? Didn't he offer 100-1 odds? And you won't risk $10, but you'll risk lives and the union over your baseless certitude that democrats cheated and trump will catch them.

bobknight33 said:

Not even close to being over.

Trump may still lose but it was not a clean election. Corruption has occurred.

As an American I would think that you would want a clean / fair election. Maybe not.

Republicans in 2018 Post-Midterm Elections

newtboy says...

Because there's zero chance he can win, and every hour of delay in allowing the transition to proceed 50 Americans die.

No, they report the official count. Reasonable people understand when it's impossible to swing the results and, for the good of the country, concede and facilitate a transition. All the silly challenges can continue after that, they don't stop counting because one candidate concedes, and they don't just toss out court cases either.

Since there's no evidence of illegal votes, that's not worth responding to. Votes are vetted in multiple ways before being counted. Thousands of dead people, non citizens, and fraudsters haven't voted....it's a lie, there's zero evidence, only liars words. The vote fraud found was all about not delivering mail in ballots, and all done by Republicans. Over 300000 missing in post offices after the USPS was ordered to sweep all sorting rooms for missing ballots, an order they ignored at DeJoy's direction.

If it wasn't life or death for thousands in the balance, I would agree, but thanks to the worst leader in living memory it is. What's the harm allowing Biden's team access to intelligence so they can vet a cabinet? Biden already has top clearance....but is being blocked out of pure spite. In the .000001% chance Trump manages to flip the results, how would it hurt anything that Biden had a team ready? Trump doesn't need to concede, he can keep instigating his cult to commit terroristic acts and chant "stop the count...count the votes....stop the count...count the votes", and to make up false claims of fraud in hopes of collecting the million dollar reward (bribe to commit perjury) Trumpco has offered.

Let the cases play out, they're being tossed constantly since they have no evidence at all of consequential fraud, only lies and Russian videos,...but since it's clear who won and no fraud case can change that, stop blocking the peaceful transition and hurting the union. Stop wasting hundreds of millions on preparing for a fantasy Trump budget but zero on preparing for Biden, who won. If Trump is declared the winner officially, then stop cooperating with Biden then....no harm no foul.

Carter conceded before the polls closed in the West because he clearly put the nation first over his ego (Reagan's final vote percentage was lower than Biden's btw, Biden is now over 5 million votes ahead) , Trump won't ever concede, he might claim it was stolen and he can't stop it, eroding trust in our system and creating terrorists, he won't ever say he lost or cooperate in a transition. The former hurts confidence in the system, the latter delays the transition and will kill more people for no reason besides sour grapes.

bobknight33 said:

Why should Trump concede? Biden has not officially won.

Media does not officially call the election.
Let it play out out.


? you want all votes counted. Even illegal votes?

Trump will have to turn around 5 states.
Tall order, Sit back and let it play out.

TX 'Ballot Chaser' Illegally Pressures Voters To Change Vote

newtboy says...

Wtf, @bobknight33?!

This fake project veritas video is of a Republican consultant bribing and cajoling people to vote Democrat, breaking the law in every way possible. What is this supposed to show us, Bobby, that Republicans are cheating, breaking nearly all election laws, committing fraud after fraud....and are still losing?

It's project veritas, so blatantly fake. I'll bet you that nice dinner you owe me but welched on that these people, like most people in veritas videos, are being paid to act like this is real....but to what end? To prove republicans are cheating? Derp.



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