>> ^EDD:
"Listen Jay, Conan and I have children; all you have to take care of is cars. I mean we have lives to lead here; you've got $800 million, for God's sakes — leave our shows alone."
Oh my fucking goodness, this might just be THE most memorable (non-political) smackdown I've seen on late night. How Leno could go home and polish his 300 Ferraris after that without a debilitating sense of shame is beyond me.


As we need to be worried about Kimmel/Conan bank accounts.

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>> ^BicycleRepairMan:
Does anyone have a short summary of what happened for us non-US citizens? did Leno steal back his original (tonight show) airtime from Conan?


Here's gawker for you, hope it's not region blocked. Watch the second video, it's 95% the same thing, plus, they have some of the best quotes written down.

Thank you 10 times 10>> ^rougy:
Totally bitching!
Bravo, ten times
And ten times on that
How pusillanimous,
these little words
Great fun to watch the master
Gotta go
Cheers mate!
Well - you fruitie bastards.
Ta.

1:100 chance to get last numbers. (1/10*1/10)
1:400 chance to get the "100" on the wheel twice. (1/20*1/20)
1:2 chance of winning showcase (maybe higher since people are dumb)

Stuff like this happens in Israeli all the time, and other nations in the area. Saying this is a step backwards from the USA and the west is one thing. Regionally speaking though, its about average. Hard to say what is worse, a secret regime killing 10s and 10s of thousands or bombers killing hundreds and hundreds...history will only tell.

Hi Dag-
For some reason, all the members are deleted deleted from the group. You can see that here, though the photos are still there.
I don't think I did something boneheaded...have been on honeymoon without net access from 10/8-10/20, never looked at it till this happened. I feel terrible about it..Maybe I set something up wrong?
This is first time I've setup a frappr map myself but the good eats group has been using it forever.
I wrote them yesterday at http://www.frappr.com/?a=feedback and have not gotten a response Without their help the members list can't be recovered. Seems like a new map, either with frappr or custom, is needed.
Very sorry,
Jeff

In reply to this comment by dag:
Hey Winkler, any idea why that Frappr map has stopped working?

Am watching this version..it's awesome.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5700431505846055184&q=randy+pausch&total=19&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6

It's an investment in time, but very moving and motivational.

The way it was setup the people that worked the hardest on the Dead Pool were rewarded less then the people that worked the least on it during a 24 hour period. User A fixes 5 videos and User B fixes only 1 video and they both get the same star point.

I think the incentive is key...but that it just needs to be tweaked. Someone suggested 1 star point for every 10 fixed videos. That way the reward is equal and doesn't matter if they did 10 in a day or 10 in 10 days.

It does take time and some detective work to fix these videos and I think Dag is right that we can't rely on just the handful of dedicated sifters who will do it happily with no incentive because they will eventually burn-out as the Dead Pool grows and grows.

Louisiana Democratic Party Attack Ad: Religion -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6921967101691185006&q=bobby+jindal&total=45&start=20&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1


Bobby Jindal Attack Ad: Corruption -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1250701048238237895&q=bobby+jindal&total=45&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

The only "hardware" that should be relevant is your internet connection and even then it's your bandwidth cap that should make the only significant difference. I don't care what your connection speed is, it's orders of magnitude slower than your processor(s).

That makes no sense. By that logic, I should be able to render a movie faster than I could download it.
And internet connection doesn't have a "speed" per se - it's bandwidth, which is not at all comparable to processor clock speed.

As you point, overcast, it is definitely related to the javascript rendering. But that is processor bound, not bandwith bound. It's how fast my hardware can run the rendering code. I can see the network traffic finish long before the page is rendered. Also, I tried it out on some (even) slower macs I have - download times look comparable and rendering is even slower.

I just tried your suggestion, overcast, i.e., turning off javascript. It takes about 3-4 seconds for load + render. It's downloading exactly the same data, and it's 3x times faster. If that doesn't convince you that it's processor bound, nothing will.

Dag - it is strange, because from what I can gather, my software set up is very similar to yours, Camino, 10.4.10, etc. But the symptom is apparently the same as arvana sees, and he's on windoze. We are all using the gecko engine, but I don't know if that comes into play with javascript. I don't have anything checking javascript outside of camino.

Just tried it with Safari - unfortunately I can't compare them, because it renders differently. In Safari, I can't expand a video in place - it takes me to the individual post page. It does seem to render faster, so perhaps that's a hint towards what is taking camino so long. BTW, is that normal behavior for Safari users?? Doesn't seem right.

None of these load+render times are relevant without hardware and software info. I doubt loading times are really much of an issue for most folks. It's the rendering on the local hardware that counts. For whatever reason, some part of the VS script takes much too long with certain configurations, like mine: Camino 1.5.1, OS X 10.4.10, 2x1GHz G4 (QS 2002).

VS - 10
CNN - 10
NYT - 9
Digg - 8

That was after clearing all my cache and cookies.

# For me at least (Firefox 2, XP SP2) the site's rounded corners take a long time to load (~5sec), and I can't scroll or click until they do. It's even longer on pages with custom CSS.

That's a significant problem for me too (Camino 1.5.1, OS X 10.4.10 2x1GHz G4). I wasn't sure if it was the rounded corners or not, since it doesn't always hang up right before drawing those.

I've been getting this error message for some slow pages:

"Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at

* Check the address for typing errors such as
ww.example.com instead of
www.example.com

* If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.

* If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web."



I'm running Mac OS X v 10.4.10 and Firefox v 2.0.0.6 on a Power Mac G5

Also, I've installed the latest updates from Apple.


Slow page loads have been inconsistent. Sometimes the same page varies in slowness.