chilaxe

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I was raised in a far-left family and culture. May all doors open to you :)

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BoneRemake says...

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Brutal. *snuff


no thats not snuff. I can honestly see where you are comming from but that mouse would of eaten its way out of the plant, thats what mice do, they gnaw and scratch and wriggle when they are confined such as it would be at the base of the pitcher. Infact I bet if the video went on for five more minutes you would see the mouse being MIGHTY AND VICTORIOUS.

demon_ix says...

A UPS is generally a battery designed to keep your computer running in the event of an environmental power failure. It has to cool itself, since the charging up generates a lot of heat (feel your cellphone battery while it's charging once . The fans usually make the noise.

Any UPS the size of a surge protector won't give you much. The most valuable feature you can have on them is the shutdown-command that they can give the computer if there's a power-outage.

If you're worried about your motherboard / PSU failing due to a power surge, all you need is a surge protector as far as I'm concerned. The only component of the computer that might suffer damage from an instant shutdown is the hard-drive, and in the case of desktop computers, the damage is unlikly.

Make sure you buy a quality surge protector. $20-30 more isn't a lot to pay, and you don't want the cheap ones

In reply to this comment by chilaxe:
Demon_IX, Thanks for the advice on the UPS thread.

When you say UPS are loud, are you referring to the beeping when the power goes out, or to normal noise that they make?

Are you referring to the big box ones that have their own LCD screens, or to the smaller ones that look basically like normal surge protectors?

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I'd recommend something like a Surge Protector and not a UPS. Those things are loud, heavy, expensive and not very useful for home users.

gorillaman says...

We are victims in the technical sense, and I do feel aggrieved. What actually happened to Turing is his personal tragedy, the crime was the law of the day, and affects even us since we could just as easily be living in 60s Britain as 00s wherever. While there are strategies he could have adopted for a safer and more comfortable life, there's nothing Turing could have done to avoid being victimised, and all the changed minds and apologies in the world aren't going to help him.

When Henry VIII officially criminalised buggery in 15-urmmurmurmurmur, and his law was supported by subsequent generations, they weren't just thinking of their people in their own time, they applied it to everyone - you, me, Alan Turing and a child born a billion years from now in Alpha Centauri. This is the problem with taking the long view; the future may be bright, but it can't shine back on us, while the shadow of the past stretches forward forever.

Meh. I'm still closer to childhood than middle-age, and enamoured of idealism.

As for our limited intelligence - you do the best you can with what you have, and I'd suggest we're doing a hell of a lot better than some.

In reply to this comment by chilaxe:
Yeah, the 'personhood' model and the cognitive machine model are each useful levels of detail for the same thing... the best one to use probably depends on what your application is.

I don't blame people, though, for holding views that I think have big costs for society... I think we're all in the same trap of limited human intelligence - them more so than us - and people will change their minds in the end.

Also, the libertarian in me says that society's lack of intelligence only has a cost on us if we let it (to some degree). Turing, for example, as much as I personally admire him for his genius, chose to take certain risks, and he lost the bet.

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IMHO, it's reasonable to say a rationalist in his position wouldn't have been so careless with sexuality. I think we're often more empowered and capable of proactive behavior than we think we are, and viewing ourselves as victims is generally not necessary.

gorillaman says...

You're better informed on the technology so I'm not going to argue your projections, but I wouldn't and haven't bet on them. It's funny, a basic assumption I've made in directing my life is that with a good diet and exercise, risk management and so on I'd make it to around 100, half that if I want to enjoy myself. If I thought I had a good chance (>50%) of surviving to the next millennium, say, that would drastically change almost every dimension of my life. So to that extent I sympathise with your attitude.

I disagree that calling a human a person is less valid than your input-output cognitive machine, which I absolutely accept to be an accurate description, itself no less valid than as a bundle of quarks and electrons, acting on even more fundamental mechanisms. One emerges from the next emerges from the next. Possessing a de facto consciousness I'm not too concerned with whether or why it really exists; illusory or real one seems to function as well as the other. So it's on that principle I interact with what I blindly assume are other similar minds.

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gorillaman says...

I think we're going to miss SENS by at least a generation. The way I treat my body I'm expecting to die around 40.

Doesn't it gnaw at you that, living in a world mostly populated by criminals, any good you do will primarily benefit them?

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Gorillaman, we're young enough that we have a decent chance of living to see the fulfillment of SENS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey).

Doesn't that make you want to do something with your life that's ingenious and constructive, helping out the common good, instead of just pursuing vendettas?

burdturgler says...

Just so I understand. You're defending one person doing something wrong by pointing out that other people do things that are wrong. That about it?

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>> ^burdturgler:
How does that translate into cheering for someones death?


Progressives ask for and praise the deaths of conservatives all the time. The path to victory for progressives requires increasing their intelligence. Then we'd all benefit.

This kind of hypocrisy seems like a good place to start.

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