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enoch says...

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This video has more to do with the corruption of authority then it has to do with any one place where genocide has taken place.

It's murder, pure and simple. The moment it was given a special name it became legendary.

There comes a time, in fiction and reality where non violent defiance is simply not enough. That is the hardest line to cross, killing another human being; because one's life is in danger. If I were a praying man, and prayer did any good; I would pray that no one have to cross that line.


this..THIS is why i bow to your awesomeness!

schmawy says...

Thanks. I thought I was asking the right guy.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland_State_Police

The Maryland State Police are currently issued a Beretta PX4 Storm, but the officer in the video seems to be carrying something of the Beretta type, but I cannot tell. It definetly does not look like a glock which usually have a square slide.

When he holsters the weapon his thumb appears to come up to hit a decocker, which on a Beretta is on the back of the slide and ambidextrous.

I don't know if its standard protocol to have the hammer in ready position, most pistols are double action. However it does appear that he is placing the gun on safe when he holsters the weapon, he is defiantly doing something.

In this case I don't think he needed to draw his weapon. Some will say that's protocol; I say if the perpetrator was not armed then there was no need to present a weapon. In my mind the situation did not scale on the force continuum to have need for a weapon. Maybe soft physical force; the officer jumped straight to lethal force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_force_continuum

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Heh, thanks Nordy. You seem to know a lot about handgun training, so if I may ask a question? Does he appear to take the safety off with his left hand immediately after drawing the weapon? Is that procedure, or is the decision to saftey off a separate event?

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>> ^schmawy:

Nope. It's not changing.


TELL EM SERIOUS CAT!
GET 'EM!

chilaxe says...

Thanks for your thoughts, Nordlich . That was a very interesting exploration of the issue.

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Hey Nordlich, that reminds me I wanted to ask you since I know you have a lot of martial arts experience...

In the event of an unavoidable fight, what do you think about striking someone in the neck instead of the skull? The advantages might be 1. less likely to injure your hand or arm and 2. the fight ends more quickly.

What's your take on it?

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>> ^FancyL:
It seems to me that computers could pretty easily take the job of an umpire by now. It'd be much harder to argue with a computer/robo-ump.


If you do the robo-ump could beat the bloody shit out of you!


I'm assuming the assailant is ambiguous, where a nut shot isn't viable (baggy pants, or whatever). The neck is a good target for shocking the assailant giving the victim enough time to flee, or followup. I'm not a fan of knife hand because of the 5th metacarpal being a small bone but it is effective at striking the arteries*. A closed hammer first is good for causing more blunt damage to the neck it is also good. I think that the closed fist would cause more damage with the amount of force involved, to the throat itself. These are all coming from the side striking the arteries of the neck.

Front on strikes seem to be more fatal. But they are very effective much more so than any of the side strikes, I think. I feel that the force required to cause an assailant to quit is less. An interesting thing about getting hit in the front of the throat is that it feels very disturbing. After getting hit in the throat (the person didn't intend to hit me) it feels like there is a lump inside the throat. It felt like that for 2 days, this was caused by the swelling. It doesn't take a very hard hit to cause that, sensation(citation 2).

I did some quick research on Tracheobronchial Injury (wikipedia) and from the tone of the article it seemed that high impact causes massive trauma. However other sites seem to suggest it would be rather easy to cause massive trauma.

Here's what I really think, and it mirrors the answer given by the guy in the yahoo link. If the assailant is not expecting the throat strike it can be very effective (This kind of strike is the one that you always want, like the unexpected left hook.) It seems that since they aren't expecting it then they are ill prepared to be struck meaning less force can be used, but accuracy is paramount. If they are ready to be struck then, I would assume, that the assailant and victim are already throwing. At which point any hard strike to the neck area will be very effective(citation 3).

I have to agree and say; I really think that any strike to the neck area, especially the anterior neck is going to cause enough damage to make the assailant quit. However it can be lethal, as you probably already know. It seems to me that accuracy is more important than power in this kind of situation, aim small miss small (citation 4).


1. http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1479666X06800909
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysphagia
3. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090531080328AALIIO9
4. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0187393/trivia

*If the person using the technique is a long time veteran of Karate Do (traditional) and have done body hardening the technique can be deadly. Then again the person could get lucky, and strike just right.

burdturgler says...

Sorry for the confusion. Next time try *lies. Good channel for liars and the lies they are lying about.

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>> ^burdturgler:

Saying that no one in the GOP has incited violence is lies.
Saying "press releases can only fan the flames" at a fucking press conference is just insane.
This whole thing is so disgusting I don't know whether to downvote it because I hate it or upvote it to encourage its exposure.


That's why I posted this. For *controversy, of course this guy is a liar, they all are.

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