Zenyatta - Amazing Comeback Win at the Breeder's Cup (2009)

This comeback on the final stretch just gave me chills.

Zenyatta is the 4 horse (yellow number), the rider in the green and white silks.
westysays...

"this -is un-b-livable"

not something I find particular interesting sum one bred a strong horse well done.

I don't know how it brakes down 60-70% breeding 20% training 10% jockey ?

granted it dose appear in this race that the jokey spurred the horse on at the right time but this is really rare iv watched a fair bit of horse racing and 90% of the races are pritt much predetermined by breeding or complaty random factors outside of the jokey and the horse owner and trainer.

Its like F1 its just a case of who has the most money to buy the most expensive kit/horse the rider/driver is quite negligible so long as they are up to a reasonable skill level.

I can see how people can get worked up when wanting a horse /car /dog to win and the dynamics of the position changing and expectation of who will actually win, but its exactly the same as rullet or simply rolling dice.

brycewi19says...

I completely disagree, westy. How can this sport be equated to rolling dice?

Yes, training is very much a part of it. What sport isn't? In fact I'd say training factors a lot more in to it than breeding. How many great horses sire other horses with great expectations that simply fizzle out? Plenty.

And how many horses come out of nowhere to give us wonderful stories - frequently.

Besides the point, when you get to these big races like the Triple Crown races and the Breeder's Cup, ALL the horses have strong lineage. So it really comes down to training and, to some extent, the cunning of the jockey.

This is a beautiful sport that, frankly, has eaten itself alive over the past couple decades. They haven't marketed themselves well to the public like other sports (see: NASCAR) over the years. And that's a shame. But I see a huge resurgance in popularity. Unfortunately, the sport won't see a big resurgance until there's a Triple Crown winner. And who knows when that'll be.

westysays...

the grand national is always fun to watch but you cannot portend that the outcome is anything other than random.

but yah standard horse racing is like Olympic running im sure all the owners will have trained the horses in an fairly equal manor just as im sure all the athaltes will have trained comparatively as hard as each other (with the difference negligible to the final result), leaving the only variables that result in a win or lose pretty much out of human control (DNA of runners and other factors).

all the variables of greatest impact are chance not skill based ( well aside from paying more for a better breed of horse but then the skill is in having more money not horse racing )

It can still be enjoyable to watch as I say the dynamics of what happens is more interesting than the final result. this is why horse / car racing is more intresting than rolling dice.

so yes horse racing is not "exactly the same " as rolling dice as its a more dynamic interlude before the results are presented but I would argue its reasonably close in terms of the results not being in control of the people involved.

The only thing I dislike with a good proportion of sport is people falling for the illusion of human skill within them , and the congratulatory aspect of it it would be absurd to congratulate me for successfully winning the lottery and then reporting on it as if it was skilfully done and that it was some how all intended by the participant.

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