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What to do when a girl won't give you her phone number

"This is the story of a man of Bobigny in France requesting the phone number of a girl passing in the street. She refuses to give it to him, and gets a big slap."

Maybe somebody who speaks French can translate what's actually happening?
G-barsays...

I wonder what condition makes a person
1) slap a woman he never met just because of refusal to give phone number
2) hit a woman from behind and drop her on the floor just because your friend slapped her
3) film the whole ordeal while laughing about it
4) putting it on the internet for the world to see what an animal you are.

chilaxesays...

>> ^Boise_Lib:

I'll upvote for jail time--not before.


As long as videos better people's life outcomes, it's probably prosocial and humanitarian to not hide them.


The women I know who have had this happen would have been better off with more data from which to draw when deciding whether to control risks by walking around questionable neighborhoods or taking a cab.

I think it's easy for men to downplay the experiences of women, but because of size and strength differences, even relatively mild events like shown in this video can confine women to bed for weeks.


It's annoying to get nighttime calls from sobbing women who are close to you.

longdesays...

About a month ago, a buddy and I were in Beijing going to a bar on a Saturday evening. In the subway station, we spotted a middle/upper class couple get into a heated argument. All of a sudden, the boyfriend (with significant height and weight advantage over the girl, a typical petite chinese girl) started violently laying hard punches on the girl. I mean, the type of punches you would only expect to lay on a guy. It was disgusting to watch.

My friend was so enraged, she started yelling at the guy and calling him trash. For a minute, I thought I was going to have to fight that night. But when she threatened to call the police, the couple left.

So yeah, I guess you have to watch what types of people/cultures you hang around. Even though this was a picturesque chinese couple; and the girl obviously knew the guy. And you have to watch what neighborhoods you walk through. Even though we were in a wealthy part of town.

Thanks for the lessons @chilaxe.

edit: If your friend comes to videosift to see your educational video, make sure she searches for "punch girl" and "cunt punch" so she can take notes on who to avoid.

chilaxesays...

@longde

Right, it's worth noting that the range of violence displayed by sub-cultures is the same, but are you saying that the averages are the same as well?

This came up in another thread as well, so let's look at the averages (as opposed to anecdotes).


In the US, people might guess that, per capita, a black person is 50% or 100% more likely to kill a white or latino person than the other way around. But the actual number appears to be much higher at 1200%.


According to the FBI's most recent statistics, where available, twice as many whites/latinos are killed by blacks, numerically, as blacks by whites/latinos in the U.S. In 2010 (where reported), the murder numbers were 447 vs 218. This means, statistically, that a black person is over 100% more likely to kill a white/latino person than the other way around.

To get per capita statistics (murders per race as percentage of population ratio), we take into account the differences sizes of the populations:
• 447 murders / 12.6 of US pop. = 35.5 per capita black on white/latino murders.
• 218 murders / 72.4 of US pop. = 3.0 per capita white/latino on black murders.
That means that an individual member of the black community is 1200% (35.5 / 3) more likely to murder a white/latino person than the other way around.


The article I linked to above mentioned that ghetto thugs target Asian Americans for muggings, so it's worth noting that, since asians have even lower crime rates than whites or latinos, that 1200% ratio would be even higher for the black / asian ratios.

longdesays...

@chilaxe, What is this inferiority complex you have against black men? Did some black man steal some girl you liked? Did some kid beat you up after school? Did some thug steal your car? Or do you have yearnings you can't fulfill?

Frankly, I don't have time to teach you statistics or probability. Suffice to say that the paragraph you posted is full of fallacious uses of both. If this drivel were submitted to me, I would give the writer an "F", based on the math alone. For you, someone who claims to use statistics in his job, to trust this sophistry, makes me question your credentials.

You are the only one making light of your friend's assault. You are the one using your friend's experience to peddle your racist theories. I don't see how she is more safe by avoiding all black men. Using your fucked up reasoning, the AG of California or the President of the US is 1200% more likely to murder your friend or take their iphone.

chilaxesays...

@longde

• I think knowledge about everything is always better (even about various ethnicities in my background); opposing data for normative reasons is never right.

• Ad hominems aren't an effective response to statistics, and I think in this case they also misunderstand; most of my interactions with African Americans are in athletic activities, where, by chance, my physical attributes are on the right side of the physical bell curve, and where people in general are nice and friendly. However, it'd be wrong to try to diminish someone's voice because of physical attributes, which are generally irrelevant in life.


Statistical differences in average crime rates between African Americans and e.g. Asians is a very reasonable statistical claim that everybody already agrees with; of course there are average differences between different groups in all manner of things. 1200% appears to be accurate.

My comment put AVERAGE in bold so that nobody would miss it. Using terms like "all black men" and references to Obama suggest you should take your advice on statistics and probability. The reason I tend to refer to Obama, Herman Cain's son, and Black Americans born in Africa is to emphasis differences in cultures and where group averages don't apply.


Sorry if it was upsetting. I know that when I feel misunderstood, it occopies time in my mind that'd I'd rather spend elsewhere. I do, though, like better knowledge achieved through multiple people's perspectives. So thanks for the discussions. Best wishes

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