VICE: Gun Crazy USA

After so many recent mass shootings, we decided to travel to Florida to see why so many Americans are stockpiling firearms.
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Weeks before the almost unfathomable mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, VICE editor-in-chief Rocco Castoro visited Florida to dive headfirst into its byzantine firearms laws and discover why his home state was the first in the nation to issue over one million concealed weapons permits. Through interviews and time on the range with veterans, law enforcement officials, and gun-store owners, VICE digs deep into the gun debate and uncovers many troubling revelations along the way. Oh, we also use a Craigslist-like site to arrange for the purchase of a handgun at 10 PM in the parking lot of a big-box hardware store. And it's all 100-percent legal. Welcome to Florida.
Yogisays...

You pump the public full of terrifying propaganda, and it's not surprising that they'll try to protect themselves. The American public are the most terrified people on the planet and they are the safest. It's ridiculous how safe we are here and how scared we are of made up threats.

Yogisays...

I'm serious too, people looking at this country from the outside are just astonished by how we look at things. I mean people in this country believe that Iraq was seconds away from destroying us, that Cuba is still a sinister threat. They arm themselves and put on fatigues and get ready for Iraqis to come into their town. The propaganda is mindblowing, and then some great president like Reagan or a bunch of High School kids with rifles in the hills are gonna snatch us away from whatever demon is about to destroy us all.

It's incredible how successful propaganda is and we look down on the German people for allowing the Nazis to run roughshod over everyone. We're the most powerful nation in the world and we're terrified of everyone, it's insane.

To say to these terrified people that guns are available for you, whatever guns you want. It's just insane.

chingalerasaid:

I'm scared of 'people who watch tv everyday...

coolhundsays...

Youre not very safe from internal threats.
The last eleven and a half years have shown that more than ever.
I guess thats why you try so hard to find a new external threat, so people will ignore the internal ones.

Yogisaid:

You pump the public full of terrifying propaganda, and it's not surprising that they'll try to protect themselves. The American public are the most terrified people on the planet and they are the safest. It's ridiculous how safe we are here and how scared we are of made up threats.

peter12says...

I don't quite understand, what you mean by external and internal threats?
Are you speaking about "normal" safety, about chances of being mugged, stabbed, killed by random stranger; they are the same as years ago, despite their increasing share in the news. Most areas are safe and you don't need a gun. And YES, they're also districts, where you need a gun to survive.
But maybe you mean something else, but in those cases a gun wouldn't safe you.

coolhundsaid:

Youre not very safe from internal threats.
The last eleven and a half years have shown that more than ever.
I guess thats why you try so hard to find a new external threat, so people will ignore the internal ones.

chingalerasays...

I think he was speaking of the threat from the United States' own government's usurping the powers granted under the constitution, maybe the Department of HS, TSA, shit like that??
Warrant-less wiretaps maybe, parading people in front of the cameras to promote an agenda concerning firearms??

Maybe we should be afraid of something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office

Or perhaps the trending new activity sure to become commonplace with the illusion of increased danger and the instilled paranoia, citizens "reporting any suspicious activity"
i.e., extending the reach of the authorities by employing the help of complicit citizens to report on their neighbors???

Welcome to your clusterfuck.

peter12said:

I don't quite understand, what you mean by external and internal threats?
Are you speaking about "normal" safety, about chances of being mugged, stabbed, killed by random stranger; they are the same as years ago, despite their increasing share in the news. Most areas are safe and you don't need a gun. And YES, they're also districts, where you need a gun to survive.
But maybe you mean something else, but in those cases a gun wouldn't safe you.

coolhundsays...

Exactly.

chingalerasaid:

I think he was speaking of the threat from the United States' own government's usurping the powers granted under the constitution, maybe the Department of HS, TSA, shit like that??
Warrant-less wiretaps maybe, parading people in front of the cameras to promote an agenda concerning firearms??

Maybe we should be afraid of something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office

Or perhaps the trending new activity sure to become commonplace with the illusion of increased danger and the instilled paranoia, citizens "reporting any suspicious activity"
i.e., extending the reach of the authorities by employing the help of complicit citizens to report on their neighbors???

Welcome to your clusterfuck.

Stusays...

I don't know what koolaid yogi is drinking to be so scared, but i have no idea what he is talking about. The idiots on tv saying everyone is scared? Ya...no one is scared buddy. Well maybe you...

Yogisays...

The US is full of pussies. There are people who fight for their rights and protest when there's serious consequences like getting your brains blown out. Here activist college kids whine that they're not being heard. There's good activism going on but there's a ton of fucking pussies too, and it's just annoying.

chingalerasaid:

I think he was speaking of the threat from the United States' own government's usurping the powers granted under the constitution, maybe the Department of HS, TSA, shit like that??
Warrant-less wiretaps maybe, parading people in front of the cameras to promote an agenda concerning firearms??

Maybe we should be afraid of something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office

Or perhaps the trending new activity sure to become commonplace with the illusion of increased danger and the instilled paranoia, citizens "reporting any suspicious activity"
i.e., extending the reach of the authorities by employing the help of complicit citizens to report on their neighbors???

Welcome to your clusterfuck.

Yogisays...

Ok obviously you got None of what I said. I'm talking about the US public, and yes they are scared and it's easy to scare them. All you have to do is tell them that Iraq is minutes from a nuclear weapon, doesn't matter if it's true, a HUGE percentage of Americans believe it regardless of any facts. Throughout history the US public has been whipped up into a horrible frenzy about the stupidest things to fear. When Reagan was president we were scared of Libyan hitmen were all over DC and he was standing tall...do you remember Back to the Future and the Libyans that attack Doc...that's what that was about!

Also I was pointing out that there's nothing to be scared of, I for instance am not scared of Iran. Because I have a brain, I can look at things rationally and I'm not a reactionary idiot.

So next time you want to respond, please maybe read what I posted instead of trying to sound like a tough guy.

Stusaid:

I don't know what koolaid yogi is drinking to be so scared, but i have no idea what he is talking about. The idiots on tv saying everyone is scared? Ya...no one is scared buddy. Well maybe you...

Yogisays...

I mean we've been scared of Chile, and the Nicaraguan army which was "Two days from Harlequin Texas." We've been turned into blood thirsty nutcases over wars we had no business fighting.

Hell we attacked Vietnam to protect ourselves from and I quote "internal aggression". You see the Vietnamese were being aggressive towards the US, inside Vietnam. It's amazing how the propaganda system works, reading about it is frightening.

kymbossaid:

There are people outside?

Get the guns.

Stusays...

I read what you said and next time you want to respond actually read what I said. Noone is scared. It's an excuse to kill people. Noone is afraid. It's another reason to use our toys. No one is scared you ignoramus so please, read what I said.

You are a fucking moron and noone is scared. There I put a tl:dr for your dumbass. Read that you kool aid idiot.

Yogisaid:

Ok obviously you got None of what I said. I'm talking about the US public, and yes they are scared and it's easy to scare them. All you have to do is tell them that Iraq is minutes from a nuclear weapon, doesn't matter if it's true, a HUGE percentage of Americans believe it regardless of any facts. Throughout history the US public has been whipped up into a horrible frenzy about the stupidest things to fear. When Reagan was president we were scared of Libyan hitmen were all over DC and he was standing tall...do you remember Back to the Future and the Libyans that attack Doc...that's what that was about!

Also I was pointing out that there's nothing to be scared of, I for instance am not scared of Iran. Because I have a brain, I can look at things rationally and I'm not a reactionary idiot.

So next time you want to respond, please maybe read what I posted instead of trying to sound like a tough guy.

Yogisays...

I gave you examples, you want more or do you want to do your own research? The American public was scared of Saddam in 1990 and they were scared again in 2003. In both cases there was NOTHING to be scared of yet you had people training and buying guns just in case he came HERE to the United States.

Hell you don't even have to look hard, remember the Red Scare when everyone was terrified that the communists are going to choke us in the night? We're a scaredy cat nation, because the propaganda is geared towards scaring us. You can't deny the effect of propaganda on people, it turned us from not wanting to get into World War 1 to a German hating crazy warmongering public. We couldn't even play Bach here because we hated Germany so much. Also the Yellow Journalism that got us into the Spanish American War, there are still people terrified that Cuba is about to strangle us...SERIOUSLY FUCKING CUBA!

Goebbels, Hitlers propaganda minister, based HIS propaganda on the United States' model. This shit is all documented, and you just sit there "Nope not true" you don't have any evidence though.

Chomsky talks about getting letters from people constantly about how dare he defend (as if he does) the helpless people that might kill us at any moment.

LOOK Right here at home, we're terrified of black people, so lets have a War on drugs to make sure if you're a 14 year old black kid with a joint in your pocket you go to jail for a LONG AS TIME. Just look at any prison, you'll see the effect it had.

Just provide some evidence for what you claim...it's not hard, till then you can't tell me I'm drinking kool aid because I actually work at gaining knowledge.

Stusaid:

I read what you said and next time you want to respond actually read what I said. Noone is scared. It's an excuse to kill people. Noone is afraid. It's another reason to use our toys. No one is scared you ignoramus so please, read what I said.

You are a fucking moron and noone is scared. There I put a tl:dr for your dumbass. Read that you kool aid idiot.

Stusays...

wait so you just want me to state things i have as an opinion and say they are facts like you always do? Sorry I have a higher standard.

Get out more

Yogisaid:

I gave you examples, you want more or do you want to do your own research? The American public was scared of Saddam in 1990 and they were scared again in 2003. In both cases there was NOTHING to be scared of yet you had people training and buying guns just in case he came HERE to the United States.

Hell you don't even have to look hard, remember the Red Scare when everyone was terrified that the communists are going to choke us in the night? We're a scaredy cat nation, because the propaganda is geared towards scaring us. You can't deny the effect of propaganda on people, it turned us from not wanting to get into World War 1 to a German hating crazy warmongering public. We couldn't even play Bach here because we hated Germany so much. Also the Yellow Journalism that got us into the Spanish American War, there are still people terrified that Cuba is about to strangle us...SERIOUSLY FUCKING CUBA!

Goebbels, Hitlers propaganda minister, based HIS propaganda on the United States' model. This shit is all documented, and you just sit there "Nope not true" you don't have any evidence though.

Chomsky talks about getting letters from people constantly about how dare he defend (as if he does) the helpless people that might kill us at any moment.

LOOK Right here at home, we're terrified of black people, so lets have a War on drugs to make sure if you're a 14 year old black kid with a joint in your pocket you go to jail for a LONG AS TIME. Just look at any prison, you'll see the effect it had.

Just provide some evidence for what you claim...it's not hard, till then you can't tell me I'm drinking kool aid because I actually work at gaining knowledge.

Yogisays...

Or you could look up the things. You shouldn't just trust me that these are facts, I've done the homework and I'm convinced. You should go do your research. That doesn't mean you just shut down someone by saying "Nope."

So yeah, get out more to the library maybe?

Stusaid:

wait so you just want me to state things i have as an opinion and say they are facts like you always do? Sorry I have a higher standard.

Get out more

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