Our Planet Is Expanding... Apparently

Theory of our expanding planet by Neal Adams (a comic book artist).
Traconsays...

1. Where else were the Upper Tectonic plates going to meet up the moon? Of course they fit together.

2. Where the fuck did all that water come from? And this doesn't explain the fact that it is salty with only a small percentage being of the not salty variety.

3. The earth has tons of space dust land on it every year. Something like 15 tons that's not nearly enough to do any real "expansion" of any significance for something the size of a planet.

4. The earth was covered in water for a great deal of time and it was the first single cell organisms that gave us the oxygen concentration we have now. But they live in salt water so no.

5. Gravity

This fails for more reasons than this. These are just the reasons i could think of right now.

Chaucersays...

I think this makes a little more sense than the plate drifting notion. If all the land mass was connected together the earth would wobble wildly and we wouldnt be here today. I read an article about building huge structures (like super sized buildings) a while back that talked about putting that much mass (weight) on one area of the earth and how it might cause the earth to wobble more. I'll see if I cant find that article again. It would have been in a Popular Science/Mechanics.

Tracon, here are some possible answers to your statements:

2) Scientist have found that the earth would have been covered by x amount of water in the atmosphere. It was like the ozone but far thicker. i dont remember the exact amount since it has been a while since I have read this. But this water isnt there now and they dont know (at the time) where it went to. This could explain it.

3) I dont think he meant expansion due to dust but probably more along the lines of the core expanding as it heated up.

4) The whole evolution thing is just guesswork. It could have been fresh water as much as it could have been salt water.

5) I fail to see how gravity fits into this picture.

BicycleRepairMansays...

Well, IF this is right, I imagine its expanding, mass itself is expanding on a molecular, atomic scale, maybe electrons move further and further away from the core, just like the stars are moving apart? Thinking about it, that seems to support the singularity theory of big bang..

Secondly, if water expands like everything else, shouldnt it cover roughly the same % of the earth all along? (depending ofcourse on height variation..)

Extremely interesting theory, anyway, and it seems very believable on the surface (pun intended)

Traconsays...

Chaucer i'd like to try and answer your posts. The best i can.

#2 i don't know right now but I'll try to find an answer.

#3 Just because something heats up doesn't mean it expands just means there's more energy in the system that's all.

#4 The fact that the earth was covered in salt water isn't guess work, and the blue-green algae is still around today. Oxygen is one of its natural byproducts. More Oxygen is put into the atmosphere by these same algae today than all of the forests in the world combine. It also has a cousin usually referred to as the red tide. It kills all of the fish in the area because it consumes all of the oxygen and gets rid of it into the air and not back into the water.

#5 If mass is gained then gravity must all so increase. They are bound together by the law's of physics. F=mg (force=mass*gravity) That fact alone destroys this idea so completely. We know what the mass of the earth and the moon are and can build models to show there effects on each other. And every year the moon drifts 30cm away from us. That's not much but in 5 million years we will no longer have a moon. If this idea was correct the moon should be getting closer each year because of the expansion and the increase in gravity over time. So for this to be true no mass is gained but the moon should still be getting closer to us because of the expansion but its not. The Apollo missions put mirrors on the moon and ground based lasers get shot at them then the time to return is calculated and every year its drifts 30cm away from us. So wave good bye while you still can.

Another point i just thought of is the fact that the core of the earth is active and produces and electromagnetic field around the earth that blocks the suns radiation as best it can. if the core or the earth were increasing in size wouldn't that field also increase at a constant rate as apposed to the one we have now that fluctuates and has switched direction at least 3 times now. We can tell it has changed poles because of molten iron deposits from volcano's millions of years ago have there own magnetic fields backwards and some with very little fields at all.

Its an interesting idea but nothing more. It was fun to think about counter arguments to it.


couplandsays...

Farhad don't be such a doubting Thomas. Just accept the fact that generations of scientists with their degrees and research and theoretical models and observations just got served by a comic book artist. You probably still think NASA landed a man on the moon. Yeesh, some people!

BicycleRepairMansays...

If this idea was correct the moon should be getting closer each year because of the expansion and the increase in gravity over time.

Hmm, Doesnt that depend on how fast it is expanding? As I said, I know far too little about all this, but looking at the continents, this just seems to obvious to be ignored. The moon is spinning rather fast around us, and that outwards pull must be pretty strong and a slight increase in gravity over a long, long time seems to me unlikely to stop that process..

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