Kucinich really should have been the Democratic nominee for President.

Ill quote it again.

"There is no democracy there is no america, there is only ITT, IBM, Union Carbide, DuPont, and Exxon." - Network 1976

Maybe the VP nomination?

>> ^GreatBird:
Kucinich really should have been the Democratic nominee for President.

doubtful there blankman, Obama has already poked fun at him and I think has made it clear he wants a more "conservative" VP to counter balance criticisms against him. So again its not for whats best, its for what politically looks good

Why are no-drill democrats worried about the price of oil? They're the ones making it impossible to explore for more oil.

They would make it $300-a-barrel if they could. Bastards.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Why are no-drill democrats worried about the price of oil? They're the ones making it impossible to explore for more oil.
They would make it $300-a-barrel if they could. Bastards.


"Explore" looks a lot like a four letter word to me.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Why are no-drill democrats worried about the price of oil? They're the ones making it impossible to explore for more oil.
They would make it $300-a-barrel if they could. Bastards.

Believe it or not, QM, but us Democrats drive cars, just like you.

We don't make it impossible to explore, we just have limits on how much we think we should destroy the environment (I know, you don't believe in that, either), to go after minimal amounts of oil.

Don't take my word on that, take the Bush DOE report from 2007 saying it wouldn't have any impact until 2030, and even then, it wouldn't have much impact since price is based on a global oil market (and OCS oil wouldn't substantially change the global suppply).

But we're bastards who want $300/barrel oil because, well, we like to see the third world starve while oil companies make record profits. That does sound very hippy-ish, and not at all Republican.

If we'd have had our way, you'd be driving an electric car by now, and the debate would be over how much of our energy budget goes to solar & wind electricity versus coal and nuclear, and you could bitch at us for trying to make the air clean, instead of burning coal like the gods of Capitalism intended.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Why are no-drill democrats worried about the price of oil? They're the ones making it impossible to explore for more oil.
They would make it $300-a-barrel if they could. Bastards.


I love how all you guys think the answer to all our problems is drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge... How about we increase our drilling in areas that are already open to drill? and the last time I checked we weren't in an oil shortage, so even if we pumped more oil into our industry we'd still be backed up at the refinery's. And I'm sorry, what ever happened to the notion "to the victor goes the spoils", We're sure not benefiting from Iraqi oil... I'm sure the Iraqi people aren't seeing a benefit from it either... but someone is.

Believe it or not, QM, but us Democrats drive cars, just like you.

That's what makes the Democrat position all the more insane. "You" don't like wars "over oil" yet you thwart any attempts at energy independence.

We don't make it impossible to explore, we just have limits on how much we think we should destroy the environment (I know, you don't believe in that, either), to go after minimal amounts of oil.

Capitalists make the best stewards of the environment. The soviet union had massive natural riches yet had to import wheat. Their consumers had no voice (or freedom). They were one huge environmental disaster.

Don't take my word on that, take the Bush DOE report from 2007 saying it wouldn't have any impact until 2030, and even then, it wouldn't have much impact since price is based on a global oil market (and OCS oil wouldn't substantially change the global suppply).

Yeah, I'm aware some things take time. Otherwise why plant today when it'll take 30 years for a large shade tree to grow?

But we're bastards who want $300/barrel oil because, well, we like to see the third world starve while oil companies make record profits. That does sound very hippy-ish, and not at all Republican.

Well, one of "your" boys in Congress recently let slip he'd like to "nationalize" the country's oil. The same idiots who can't run the Post Office are somehow going to run the nation's oil supply? Laughable, contemptible and illegal.

If we'd have had our way, you'd be driving an electric car by now, and the debate would be over how much of our energy budget goes to solar & wind electricity versus coal and nuclear, and you could bitch at us for trying to make the air clean, instead of burning coal like the gods of Capitalism intended.

The electric car? You mean the one with the batteries that cause all kinds of pollution just to manufacture? The one that has to be plugged in so coal-fired plants can work overtime? Solar, wind, hydrogen are all long-term shifts. There's still billions of barrels of oil in the ground.

I'm not bitter over oil companies making a profit. They earn those profits providing a commodity people need. They reinvest those profits and find MORE oil which keeps prices low. Those profits do more good in their pockets than the vests of squandering socialists.

"Bastards" was probably a bit unfair. Keebler elves like Kook-cynic make me want to throw out all the E.L. Fudge in the hizzle.