Man Drowns - Police, Firefighters Watch

YouTube description: "Did budget cuts lead to the drowning death of a man in Alameda California? Cenk Uygur breaks down a local news report on the story."

off-duty he would have done the right thing? did i just hear that correct? and if it was a kid and he was on-duty he would have let the kid die too? am i going nuts?!?!
packosays...

tactic: reduce the budget of a social service, restrict them with ridiculous regulations... wait for the service to flounder... use that as a reason to privatize it.... watch the revenue for that service increase, while the level/quality of service remains the same or worse



its easy to want to blame the firefighters/police there... but two things are probably preventing them... not having the proper equipment combined with the fact that perhaps this person is looking to/will inadvertantly take someone with him... 2 reprisal from doing their job outide of the guidelinse set for them... ie suspension or most likely termination

in a society where everyone is actually doing well economically, and not under a state of constant fear, it would be ALOT easier for morality to win out in this situation... but when you have to risk your job, to do your job which risks the security of say... your family... its not easy

the sad thing is, ANY inquiry into this matter will stop at the police/firemen involved... and not look at the environment/atmosphere/mentality involved here

rottenseedsays...

Well this is what you wanted you litigious cunts. Did you know that if a certified nurse is involved with or witnesses a car accident she WILL NOT help in any medical fashion. If she does and something goes wrong, she is liable. Everything is about liability these days. And what do you want this police officer to do? He's following protocol. Oh yea, so many of you fucking heroes would have saved that (SUICIDAL) guy, but why didn't you? Huh? Why didn't you dickheads go save him? Because you're not qualified to swim out there and do it? Well guess what...NEITHER ARE COPS! You're a moron on this one, Cenk.

spoco2says...

Completely with @rottenseed on this. The litigious nature of society now has resulted in this.

Sorry, but THAT'S what is behind this. Your society has made everyone stop and think 'Wait... could I be sued based on the outcome of this?'.

What about all those witnesses? Why didn't any of them help? 'Oh, I was stunned that the firefighters didn't help'... um... why didn't you?

Hell, just LAST NIGHT I witnessed a man being hit by a car (Ok, I didn't see him being hit, I heard the tires squeal beside me, turned and saw him being thrown through the air just after being hit). There were THREE of us who instantly ran to his aid, kept him calm, etc. until police arrived, (which was all of a minute may I add) Others instantly jumped on their phones and called for an ambulance.

Society isn't bad by nature, we want to help, but fucking law suits for pretty much anything being thrown at people who were trying to help are causing good people to stop and consider consequences that shouldn't even exist before they act.

It's fucking sad.

NaMeCaFsays...

The problem here is not that they wouldn't go in a save him, but that they COULDN'T go in and save him. The stupid way people, even officers and paramedics, can be sued for PROVIDING AID now has caused this.

Blame the law and politicians for this, not the cops and firefighters!

blankfistsays...

>> ^rottenseed:

Well this is what you wanted you litigious cunts. Did you know that if a certified nurse is involved with or witnesses a car accident she WILL NOT help in any medical fashion. If she does and something goes wrong, she is liable. Everything is about liability these days. And what do you want this police officer to do? He's following protocol. Oh yea, so many of you fucking heroes would have saved that (SUICIDAL) guy, but why didn't you? Huh? Why didn't you dickheads go save him? Because you're not qualified to swim out there and do it? Well guess what...NEITHER ARE COPS! You're a moron on this one, Cenk.


Dear boiling water,

Please won't you simmer down?

Yours,
blankfist

rottenseedsays...

>> ^blankfist:

>> ^rottenseed:
Well this is what you wanted you litigious cunts. Did you know that if a certified nurse is involved with or witnesses a car accident she WILL NOT help in any medical fashion. If she does and something goes wrong, she is liable. Everything is about liability these days. And what do you want this police officer to do? He's following protocol. Oh yea, so many of you fucking heroes would have saved that (SUICIDAL) guy, but why didn't you? Huh? Why didn't you dickheads go save him? Because you're not qualified to swim out there and do it? Well guess what...NEITHER ARE COPS! You're a moron on this one, Cenk.

Dear boiling water,
Please won't you simmer down?
Yours,
blankfist


I'm at high altitude so it's easier to make me boil


...you statist scum

Lawdeedawsays...

"Couldn't understand" because the gawkers are fucking morons, fucking sheep who think they are not responsible for the social climate they have created. And Cenk goes for the throat, even if he blames the wrong people. Cops are just soooo easy to beat up on because they wear a uniform...

And of course Cenk lies--we don't pay for the officers to be fucked up the ass or drowned by a potentially suicidal man. Sorry all, this pisses me off because Cenk is a liberal commentator, so therefore he sputters off this shit, even though 99% of the liberals in this country would tell him he's being ridiculous. Second, would Cenk himself have went in to save the man if he was a cop? Even at the cost of his career, then after the lawsuit, his financial welfare? Hypocrite... Third, he spews advertisement right after the clip because it fills his thick wallet. Fourth, just wtf...wtf...

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