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blankfistsays...*promote
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deedub81says...*quality
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MichaelLsays...Not to say the concept is invalid but I'm not sure this experiment proves the point. I probably would have been still trying to solve the 'unsolvable' words before I went on to number three. They just ran out of time... nothing to do with learning 'helplessness'. A better structure would have been to flash the words one at a time to both groups. That way the 'dummies' don't get hung up trying to solve the words above. THEN compare what happens when both groups are simultaneously presented with word three.
deedub81says...Except she asked them how they felt, and group 2 solved the problem at significantly lower numbers and at a slower pace than group 1.
Also, she wasn't attempting to prove a point, but to simply illustrate a point. I'm pretty sure they "got it."
Not to say the concept is invalid but I'm not sure this experiment proves the point. I probably would have been still trying to solve the 'unsolvable' words before I went on to number three. They just ran out of time... nothing to do with learning 'helplessness'. A better structure would have been to flash the words one at a time to both groups. That way the 'dummies' don't get hung up trying to solve the words above. THEN compare what happens when both groups are simultaneously presented with word three.
dandymansays...She looks a bit like Sandra Dee. Yes please.
robbersdog49says...I very much doubt this is the case. They are told to move on to the next word, and just about all the kids would have done that so they didn't look stupid next time round. If you would just have kept looking at the previous words against the instructions of the teacher, more fool you.
Not to say the concept is invalid but I'm not sure this experiment proves the point. I probably would have been still trying to solve the 'unsolvable' words before I went on to number three. They just ran out of time... nothing to do with learning 'helplessness'. A better structure would have been to flash the words one at a time to both groups. That way the 'dummies' don't get hung up trying to solve the words above. THEN compare what happens when both groups are simultaneously presented with word three.
shatterdrosesays...No, the concept is valid. Matter of fact, it's also a issue we have with young girls when their parents do everything for them, but make the boys do it. Or, when the child is hurt, they tell the boy to suck it up, but dote on the girl.
And it turns out she goes into that towards the end. . .
Gutspillersays..."This side of the room isn't SIGNIFICANTLY more intelligent."
So not significantly, but they are more intelligent?
siftbotsays...Tags for this video have been changed from 'education' to 'education, learned helplessness, psychology, failure, confidence' - edited by xxovercastxx
ChaosEnginesays...Interesting sidenote to this.
It's not even failure that can induce learned helplessness. It's how you are treated when you succeed.
If you tell kids that they are clever, strong, whatever for accomplishing a task, when presented with a more difficult task, many will assume that the task is either impossible or that they are simply unable to complete it.
On the other hand, if you praise the work or effort that went into completing a task rather than an intrinsic quality, children are much less likely to give up, even at a task that is beyond their current ability level.
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