Keith Olbermann Tackles Sexism in Sports

Keith explains how sports sexism let the NFL get away with suspending a wife-beater for two games when an on-field stomp got another player a five-game suspension.

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Januarisays...

I agree with his assessment towards women in sports and society in general. But, where i'm not sure i follow is the NFL punishing someone for something that is outside its purview. I understand they regularly do this with any number of things, but in this case what crime is that video showing?

Do i think Ray Rice knocked out his wife, Yes! But the video doesn't show that... and as i understand it (i'm sorry i'm not looking up the details of this story so if i'm wrong... ) his wife isn't pressing charges and the DA isn't prosecuting because of a weak case.

I don't know... The NFL's list of would be convicts if they'd of had any other job is EXTREMELY long...

Not sure Ray Rice is particularly special because his alleged victim was a woman and his wife.

00Scud00says...

I can't say I'm too familiar with the details either, but women calling the cops on their abusive boyfriends/husbands and then later backing off is, sadly, all too common. So just because his wife isn't pressing charges doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent.

lantern53says...

I thought what happened in someone's bedroom or elevator was their own business?

Not in this case, though, right?

Hey, 50 Shades of Grey is coming out soon.

Stock up on your handcuffs.

visionepsays...

I didn't see anything in that video that looked like abuse. It looked like he was helping a drunk belligerent girlfriend and she decided she was done moving.

There is supposedly another video where both of them are hitting each other, so maybe with that video the outrage by Olbermann is justified, but this just sounds like hes pissed off so people will watch him be pissed of.

visionepsays...

@Januari

Yea, I think you are right. I went back and watched it again. I thought that she was originally partially walking while he half carried her out of the elevator. But on further review she was completely out cold and didn't wake up until he propped her up and she was sitting.

My mistake, definitely not being belligerent.

dannym3141says...

I don't want to be rude here, but whilst you have a point when you say "just because charges aren't pressed doesn't mean nothing happened", you besmirch the point with a subjective piece of guesswork that is tantamount to saying that an accusation is evidence.

What metric are you using to gauge how many accusations are genuine? And "too common"? How many rescinded accusations are just common enough? I hope i haven't been rude or trodden on anyone's feelings because i know that this is an issue that goes close to the bone. But you correctly state that dropped charges don't mean innocence, but then use that correct statement to try and suggest, based on nothing but your opinion of common-ness and i assume no research (none was alluded to), that it's prevalent.

And that paints many innocent people with a dye that's hard to wash off. It SHOULD be hard to wash off, but in that case it should be so much more important to avoid spilling it.

00Scud00said:

I can't say I'm too familiar with the details either, but women calling the cops on their abusive boyfriends/husbands and then later backing off is, sadly, all too common. So just because his wife isn't pressing charges doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent.

00Scud00says...

You're right, I don't have any specific numbers on how many abused spouses don't press charges, even after calling the cops during an incident. My suspicions are based mostly on what I've heard and read over the years on the subject, I have heard on occasion that this is a problem in abusive relationships, but I cannot point you to a source. I make no claims to being an expert, I'm just another schmuck on the internet with an opinion.
Although now that I think about it, I do remember a Freakonomics podcast that mentioned this issue and how some states were looking at instituting policies where prosecution would proceed even if the victim dropped the charges.
http://freakonomics.com/tag/domestic-violence/

dannym3141said:

I don't want to be rude here, but whilst you have a point when you say "just because charges aren't pressed doesn't mean nothing happened", you besmirch the point with a subjective piece of guesswork that is tantamount to saying that an accusation is evidence.

What metric are you using to gauge how many accusations are genuine? And "too common"? How many rescinded accusations are just common enough? I hope i haven't been rude or trodden on anyone's feelings because i know that this is an issue that goes close to the bone. But you correctly state that dropped charges don't mean innocence, but then use that correct statement to try and suggest, based on nothing but your opinion of common-ness and i assume no research (none was alluded to), that it's prevalent.

And that paints many innocent people with a dye that's hard to wash off. It SHOULD be hard to wash off, but in that case it should be so much more important to avoid spilling it.

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