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"Joe Rogan talks war and American Politics"
osama1234says...

Wow. Joe Rogan just went up in my books.

Until this video, I assumed him to be one of those people that question things for the sake of being a rebel, because in their mind being different is cool, and just wanted to stroke their ego... 'I'm so different because I don't accept the legitimacy of authority'. However, this video makes me realizes he's someone who actually gains an understanding of things from questioning thing, and is not just questioning to be a (mainstream) rebel, to make stroke his ego that he's so unique. Not to mention, he articulates it well that its (only) a select powerful few doing horrible things for a profit, and it so happens they control the American government through various means, and psychologically have fooled all of america.

siftbotsays...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Joe Rogan, The American War Machine' to 'Joe Rogan, The American War Machine, Operation Northwoods, industrial war complex' - edited by eric3579

Taintsays...

Wow, I admit that I also didn't expect this with the name "Joe Rogan" on the title.

But that was a pretty concise representation of the truly salient, and inherent problems with US Foreign policy, and with some good editing and clips to boot.

I can't say I'm in love with the building seven bit at the end though.

Operation Northwoods clearly shows it's not beyond question for nefarious plans against our own citizens to reach the highest offices of the Pentagon and even meet with approval.

But I just find it nearly impossible to believe that the same minds who could conceive and carry out a plan like this would not realize that they could've gotten away with whatever they want for far, far less than anything approaching the scale of nearly destroying downtown Manhattan.

I mean the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was some destroyer out somewhere in a sea most Americans couldn't find on a map if their lives depended on it. And that was enough of an excuse to invade south east asia!

Keep in mind that the Gulf of Tonkin Bullshit story was drafted AFTER operation Northwoods was rejected by Kennedy. They already knew that a justification to gear up the military required nearly nothing. So why would they stage this elaborate hoax to accomplish what they could do anyway? Hell, even the first Gulf War showed the American appetite for war was a lot different then what they dealt with in the late 60's and 70's.

Americans these days only need a short empty speech with zero content, a flag waving fireworks extravaganza, a country music song or two and we'd be willing to invade fucking Canada.

It wasn't needed.

Also, and probably more importantly, if building seven can only be explained by controlled demolition then where are all the engineers on this topic? Why does it only seem to be people without a professional background in such things the ones saying it couldn't have happened when the boilers exploded or whatever the official claim states.

And if destroying some sort of unique treasure trove of financial documents was the goal then it seems an awfully elaborate way to torch a building, but what do I know I guess.

I'm just typing too much.

osama1234says...

>> ^Taint:

I can't say I'm in love with the building seven bit at the end though.


Agreed. There's definitely something fishy about everything surrounding 9/11, but its too difficult to make assertive statements like it was brought down. Yes the way it come down is strange, but there's so much more fundamentally wrong things done by the powerful in america, that what caused the tower to come down isn't event relevant.

Bruti79says...

I agree with most of that video, except his tower 7 stuffs, and if he was referring to Kennedy wanting to get out of Vietnam. The Pentagon Papers prove that every president since Truman has lied about their dealings with Vietnam.

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