Fluoride from China in American Water Supply Problems

Where does your fluoride come from?

Original posting by WCVB TV: March 12, 2010
Stormsingersays...

Let me see if I have this straight. For two years, they've been finding a certain amount of insoluble residue in their sodium fluoride. And they're just now getting it tested?

Sounds like we have a serious problem a wee bit closer than China.

ButterflyKissessays...

The ADA, NSL and CDC all state that flouride is not harmful to us and advocate it's use in our water supply to help prevent tooth decay. It's GOOD for you!

Ok.. fine what's a little bit of extra toxin in our daily diet... it's not like we're getting this fluoride from a dictatorship-style run country with a health violation record regarding it's products exported.

I mean, we're getting top-grade pharmaceutical quality fluoride from nature (according to the ADA). Our politicians and corporate CEOs overseeing the process would have nothing less because they care for their end users.

I mean, it's not like they're siphoning these toxic chemicals (complete with arsenic, lead and radons) in an unrefined and unprocessed state directly from fertilizer plant smoke-stacks. The same ones where they used to emit these fluorides as gasses into the environment and kill off the animal and plant life in the township near the plants (until regulation prohibited them from this process). Now we have an effective method of discarding these toxic chemicals - by putting it in our drinking water.

Absolutely Genius!!!

We should be thankful they're giving us fluoride. According to the Health Science Channel our daily fluoride dosage is what is keeping our tooth enamel from falling apart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKgZeeBpBQc

I do find it strange though that this water treatment facility has turned off their fluoride integration and have still yet to investigate why this Chinese fluoride is clogging up their system. The CDC and NSL says it's safe though so we can put away any fears of contamination. Why would they lie to us? That would be scandalous would only serve to harm their reputation on the subject of fluoride. Still, how long would a spectroscopic test take? I don't understand why they haven't shown proof of it being safe. Some empirical data on this batch of fluoride might reassure the public.

ButterflyKissessays...

>> ^Sagemind:

"ANOTHER LOOK AT FLUORIDE IN THE WATER SUPPLY"
http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/fluoride.htm


This article brings up a good point and raises a few more questions:

How is mass water fluoridation affecting the water table?

Not to mention that studies have shown that we now take in various levels of pharmaceuticals due to waste water recycling. Doesn't this also compound and ever more increase the amount of fluoride in the water as the water is continually recycled and fluoride is continually added? This same water is also used in products like soda pop, fruit juices, etc.

I wonder if any studies of this aspect have been done.

This is a very interesting topic in my opinion because it directly affects us all.

choggiesays...

The shits been going on for years will full culpability among all parties involved....many many countries have long since banned or never adopted such a fiendish practice, oh well....if what don't killl ya something else will, we're all gonna die horrifying toxic deaths eventually....

alizarinsays...

Here's a study referenced off Wikipedia.
I know chlorine evaporates from water pretty quickly. Fluorine and chlorine are both halogens gases and both exist as salts in water so since studies say it doesn't build up I'm guessing something takes fluorine out of the equation like it does for chlorine. Pharmaceuticals on the other hand are complex compounds, not just salts so I think that's why they stick around. I took 2 chemistry classes in college so take that with a grain of salt ;-)

>> ^ButterflyKisses:
This article brings up a good point and raises a few more questions:
How is mass water fluoridation affecting the water table?
Not to mention that studies have shown that we now take in various levels of pharmaceuticals due to waste water recycling. Doesn't this also compound and ever more increase the amount of fluoride in the water as the water is continually recycled and fluoride is continually added? This same water is also used in products like soda pop, fruit juices, etc.
I wonder if any studies of this aspect have been done.
This is a very interesting topic in my opinion because it directly affects us all.

pho3n1xsays...

I know this is dipping into conspiracy theory here, but the thing that stuck out in my mind after reading that article was "...Risks of ingesting fluoride include Chronic Kidney Disease, Thyroid Disease, reduced brain development in children, reduced IQs, dental fluorosis, skeletal fluorosis, and increases in hip and other bone fractures. ..."

Paired with the fact that 'They' want us to drink more and more water per day under the guise of 'General Health and Wellbeing' just adds more fuel.

>> ^Sagemind:

"ANOTHER LOOK AT FLUORIDE IN THE WATER SUPPLY"
http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/fluoride.htm


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The water-table-effect is scary as well, guaranteeing that humankind as a whole is affected, rather than just civilized/urban areas. Why stupify 50% of the population when you can get 100%?

</tinfoil_hat>

Seriously though, potentially scary stuff... Pharmaceuticals in the water table are cause for a lot of *fear as well. I can't wait until literally everyone with a penis is walking around with a permanent hardon due to the massive amounts of Cialis, Viagra, and Levitra being dumped into the world-water-supply. Funny shit.

And no one will be depressed, but they may all be potentially suicidal.

I wonder about birth control as well. Surely 100% of the medication isn't being metabolized, so it would gather in waste water also. Population decrease, lower IQ, and perma-stiffy's the world 'round.

ButterflyKissessays...

I did find an interesting study conducted by the CDC regarding fluoride:

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp11-c6.pdf

In Conclusion they state:

"Recent data are available on the concentration of fluoride in different foods in Canada and the
daily dietary intakes for different Canadian age groups (Dabeka and McKenzie 1995). However, recent
analogous information is not available for the United States. Up-to-date data on concentrations of
fluoride in food items and the dietary intake of fluorides in the United States is important in view of the
changes in fluoride emissions and the effect that the use of fluoridated water or water with a high natural
fluoride content may have on the fluoride levels in processed food and beverages (Pang et al. 1992).

The total human intake is of interest, since multiple sources, all of which are generally considered safe by
themselves, could, under some circumstances, provide total intake that is considered to be above the
"safe" level.

No exposure registries for fluorides were located. This compound is not
currently one of the compounds for which a subregistry has been established in the National Exposure
Registry. The compound will be considered in the future when chemical selection is made for
subregistries to be established. The information that is amassed in the National Exposure Registry
facilitates the epidemiological research needed to assess adverse health outcomes that may be related to
the exposure to this compound."

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